timma 23 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 I did my first flight today but unfortunately performance is really bad ,the previous crj was smooth with out stutters. i run all pmdg and labs addons with out any problems.is there any fix for this ,i tried disabling the FO display and still the stutter fest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branimir 9 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 What are your PC specs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timma 23 Posted December 9, 2019 Author Share Posted December 9, 2019 I5 6500k 4.2ghz 1070 8gb 16gb ram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libero 6 Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 I upgraded today to CRJ Pro and me too, I’ve noticed the same problem! I’ll try to change some settings, but overall, FPS are lower than with a first edition of CRJ. It’s a great product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branimir 9 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 I noticed a very small FPS drop (for example. from 35 to 30) on my system I7-7700 (4.2GHz HT enabled) 16GB DDR4 Gigabyte RTX 2070 Super Gaming OC I noticed that new CRJ is very CPU demanding, my CPU runs at 100% while my GPU is resting. But the difference from the old one is very small (in FPS). I also reinstalled the P3D before installing the released version of CRJ Pro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tangjuice81 2 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 I'm having really bad FPS as well. I have an i7 6800k @ 4.0 Ghz, 32 GB and a 1080 ti OC/watercooled. I just did a flight with the FSLab A320 from CYUL to CYYZ and I had no issues with blurry sceneries or FPS. I uninstalled the old version as recommended but I may go back to the old one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developer Hans Hartmann 3695 Posted December 16, 2019 Developer Share Posted December 16, 2019 Can everybody who has problems with FPS please give me a complete list of tools add-ons (for example Chaseplane, EzDok, UTLive, GSX, UGCX, etc.), so I can try to reproduce what you see on your systems? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richbonneau 0 Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 10 hours ago, Hans Hartmann said: Can everybody who has problems with FPS please give me a complete list of tools add-ons (for example Chaseplane, EzDok, UTLive, GSX, UGCX, etc.), so I can try to reproduce what you see on your systems? Experiencing stutters with the Pro. - Active Sky for P3d - REX Soft Clouds - ChasePlane - ORBX Global / Vector - GSX - Navigraph Charts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petetech 23 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Same here. Its stutters. Taxiing is most noticeable... its like this ---------..-----------------..------------..-----------------------..---------------..-------------..----------- (line smooth, dotdot stutter) Old CRJ was always smoothest addon i have, 30-45 steady. And also CDT with EFB use. CDT stops me every flight. I understand this is being looked into as of 10th Dec there was a breakthrough with Navigraph 1hr timeout problem? Im yet to have a go at a landing unfortunately, But i imagine the stutters would be a problem with smooth flow. ------------------ System Information ------------------ Time of this report: 12/17/2019, 13:53:14 Operating System: Windows 10 Home 64-bit (10.0, Build 18363) (18362.19h1_release.190318-1202) System Manufacturer: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. System Model: Z97-HD3 BIOS: F10c (type: UEFI) Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4690K CPU @ 3.50GHz (4 CPUs), ~3.5GHz Memory: 16384MB RAM Available OS Memory: 16268MB RAM Page File: 5403MB used, 13297MB available GPU: Nvidia GeForce GTX 1050 Ti -P3Dv4.-- (latest, checked today) - Active Sky for P3d - ChasePlane - ORBX Global / Vector - GSX - Navigraph Charts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry320 0 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 have had the same experience as petetech and could not better discribe ! -P3Dv4.5 HF2 -ORBX Global / Vector/ORBX Regions/Airports -FS Global ultimate - Active Sky for P3d - EZDok3 - GSX2 - Navigraph Charts System : Intel Core i7 8700K OC 5.1GHz Asus 1080ti MB: Asus Rog STRIX Z370F-Gaming 16GB DDR4 3200 Win 10Prof. 1909 Build 18363.535 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developer Hans Hartmann 3695 Posted December 20, 2019 Developer Share Posted December 20, 2019 Thank you guys. The main difference between your installations and mine seems to be Chaseplane/EzDok and Orbx Global/Vector. Although I know for sure that Jeroen, who made the CRJ product video used Chaseplane without any issues. I don't see how Orbx Global/Vector could cause any issues. It's just scenery and not anything that actively uses CPU (except for loading data). I'll report back as soon as I gain some knowledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emi 5161 Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 I've also used Chaseplane all the time with the CRJ during all my tests. No such issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branimir 9 Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 I also use Chaseplane and ORBX addons and have no problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westman 6 Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 i run 4k , chaseplane , orbx vector tons of addon scenery, think its lighter on my system then pmdg NGX NGXu and most of the addons , the new CRJ Pro tax the gpu more , the new 330 for example is very light +100fps the crj pro, AS 3xx 70-80 i tune my settings vsync 30hz and use the FSL 3XX ( the hard hitter) to tune when that one have 40-45 i enable vsync Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developer Hans Hartmann 3695 Posted December 21, 2019 Developer Share Posted December 21, 2019 As far as I was told, PMDG's NGXu doesn't have a full PBR cockpit. That might cause a difference. I use VSync on with triple buffering and a target framerate of 60. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purr 14 Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 I have the identical stutters to the person below whether using chase plane or Ezdok On 12/17/2019 at 5:57 AM, petetech said: Same here. Its stutters. Taxiing is most noticeable... its like this ---------..-----------------..------------..-----------------------..---------------..-------------..----------- I also use or call vector, active sky and Rex, but have not had stutter with any other aircraft including PMDG and others. Doesn’t change when turning settings up or down. Is also consistent whether lots of clouds or not. No difference turning F.O. Instruments off or efb off. running i8700k, 1070gtx, no overclock. All latest OS updates, led v4.5hf2. Using latest crj build from aerosoft updated as of today. I did not have any stutters or issues with previous (old) crj, it was smooth as silk and high FPS. My FPS in this one vary a lot, ranging from about 30-55. hooe you can find a fix, it really detracts from what is otherwise a beautiful aircraft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKB 1 Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 Same for me, the performance is terrible. A lot of stutters especially while taxing. Compared to the NGXu and A330 there is a significant drop in FPS, no matter if I fly from a default airport or Aerosoft EDDF System: i7-4790k 4,00GHz Geforce GTX 1060 6GB 16GB Ram MB: H81 Pro BTC Samsung SSD 250GB for P3D Windows 10 Pro Simulator: P3D V4.5 HF2 ORBX Global/Vector/LC Europe Active Sky for P3D REX4 for Clouds Navdatapro Charts Frames are locked to 30 via Nvidia inspector Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabe777 7 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 The first version had very variable framerates. I noticed variation between 25 and 85 fps. Now given this Pro version, is enhanced significantly with lighting and pbr, it has clearly just scaled down. So a 20 percent reduction in fps will put the lower level under 20, making it much more noticeable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schorle 6 Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Had bad stuttering, too. I turned off Hyperthreading in BIOS and now everything is much smoother. This is using a i7-6700k at 4600MHz and a RTX 2080. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinr8 3 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 I confirm the performance issues. Turning on the first officer PFD and ND gives a further significant hit on the framerate, so its clear why these displays are switched off by default... I am using an i5 6600K so hyperthreading cannot be the cause. I am not using Chaseplane, but OrbX Vector. Hoping for improvement in future updates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timma 23 Posted January 7, 2020 Author Share Posted January 7, 2020 Pmdg managed to improve performance on the ngxu in the last update so hopefully aerosoft can work something out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developer Hans Hartmann 3695 Posted January 8, 2020 Developer Share Posted January 8, 2020 On 7.1.2020 at 09:39, timma sagte: Pmdg managed to improve performance on the ngxu in the last update so hopefully aerosoft can work something out. I'm working on it although I still don't know the reason. For most users framerates are perfectly fine. Only a few get low fps. That's all I can say right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branimir 9 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 I also started getting low FPS problem and I have never had it before even in BETA testing. Few days ago I made a successful flight from LJLJ to EDDF. Yesterday I powered on my PC, turnet off Hyperthreading to test this: On 12/31/2019 at 11:32 AM, Schorle said: Had bad stuttering, too. I turned off Hyperthreading in BIOS and now everything is much smoother After turning it off I started P3D with CRJ and had 30+ FPS in cold and dark. As soon as I turned the AC power on and avionics came to life my FPS dropped to 15 or less FPS. I thought that HT set to off in BIOS is causing this problem. After a restart and turning the HT back on the problem was still there. I am 90% sure that turning HT off and back on has nothing to do with FPS problem. But it is interesting that this is the only change on my system between a smooth CRJ experience and low FPS problem. I deleted the P3D cfg file, reinstalled the CRJ and there was no change. Then I started searching for the problem. I tried FSLabs and PMDG NGXu and had 25+ FPS. CRJ is still having 15FPS on AC power and 30+ without AC. Then I turned all the settings to the left (LOW) in the P3D and still had exactly the same amount of FPS while on AC power. So P3D settings had no impact. The only improvement was switching off the FO displays - FPS jumped to 20 but it is still quite low and if I also turn the CPT screen - FPS jumps to 30. Was there maybe a Windows 10 update I don't know about it and started this problem? I doubt my PC is underpowered for CRJ: Windows 10 1903 18362.535 i7-7700 (4.2 GHz, HT enabled) 16GB DDR4 RAM Gigabyte RTX 2070 Super Gaming OC I am so confused about this problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sholay 5 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 I hope you do not mind if I ask the following question. I am considering 'upgarding' my CRJ to PRO. I am running P3D 4.5 with everything ORBX and ActiveSky. I have a laptop - ASUS FX503 with i5 7300 @2,5 GHz, GTX1050 3 GB and 8 GB RAM. The CRJ X runs fine at abour 25 fps with reasonable settings. Will CRJ Pro run the same or it is indeed significantly more resource hungry? I have read that statement that laptops are not recommended. What I am asking however is what performance degradation I can expect? 20%? I am fine with moving sliders left if needed to some extent. Any thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branimir 9 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 I think it should work fine with some "sliders to the left" by some extent. I have never heard of GTX 1050 that has 3GB, I always though there are 2 and 4 GB variants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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