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[Mathijs Kok]

We are preparing an update for Manhattan X. We felt this is needed because the version out now has Ground Zero as an empty field while there are now some whopping big buildings there. The update will be free of charge and we will release for FSX and P3D next week.

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[Guga Carvalho]

Awesome! I bought today US Cities X: Detroit for this wonderful price to celebrate the 4th of July But now with this update for Manhattan X I will buy it for sure

BTW, what about frames?

[Matt_Smith]

Awesome update. Mathijs will it be a complete new installer or just an update?

[Mathijs Kok]

Awesome! I bought today US Cities X: Detroit for this wonderful price to celebrate the 4th of July But now with this update for Manhattan X I will buy it for sure

BTW, what about frames?

Manhattan is complex and has a massive amount of polygons. It's however the car traffic that causes the real issues, if you keep that low it will not be a major issue.

[Mathijs Kok]

Awesome update. Mathijs will it be a complete new installer or just an update?

Think we'll do a full new build to make things simpler.

[homepilot152]

Is update free for those who have bought the old version?

[Mathijs Kok]

Is update free for those who have bought the old version?

Of course!

[guenseli]

Of course!

this is not naturally "of course" ... others would charge money for it!
Many thanks for that!

[Manuel Bigot]

Thank you for this update....

I think that's also great if you make an update for London X with the Olympique village < ... that's the moment ...

[Matt_Smith]

Thank you for this update....

I think that's also great if you make an update for London X with the Olympique village < ... that's the moment ...

Only problem with the Olympic village in Stratford is most of it will be torn down after the games, and I dont think VFR London goes out that far into greater london.

[Ayster]

Only problem with the Olympic village in Straford is most of it will be torn down after the games, and I dont think VFR London goes out that far into greater london.

could add the Shard though!

[member111333]

I would really like to get it as a small update as I use one of the early installers from Manhattan X that keeps the transparent windows on the buildings which need some resources, but I too much love the eye candy. Pleas no complete new installer if possible. I would really love to keep my early version.

Cheers, Roland

[Friedolien]

If i buy the box-version of manhattan x, can i also get the update?

Must i send the old version to you and you will send the new one to me?

[Matt_Smith]

could add the Shard though!

True, though the only problem with London is if Im not mistaken, it was developed by Horizon and published by Aerosoft. Maybe we should petition Horizon

[Friedolien]

If i buy the box-version of manhattan x, can i also get the update?

Must i send the old version to you and you will send the new one to me?

[member111333]

Yes you can. You just have to register the product I think and then you can download the update from the appropriate section.

[Chaders]

This is great news!!

[Gaiiden]

Manhattan is complex and has a massive amount of polygons. It's however the car traffic that causes the real issues, if you keep that low it will not be a major issue.

More than car traffic, make sure your water settings are not on super-high! Just one notch down from the highest water detail setting will net you a huge performance boost.

[JamesChams]

Thank you (Merci)!
Also, will the current Aerosoft Launcher v1.1.0.1 show users when it has been released? Or, will it also be update with this build inorder to do so?
I really like the addition of this utility although it is still a little buggy and cannot handle older installers (eg. reading all the product.cfg to get the correct patched versions as well). I will report more in the correct section but definitely keep this tool updated along with great sceneries like Manhattan X.

[wallydog69]

This is terrific news. The update looks great! It's good to know this scenery has not been forgotten. Hopefully they will also fix the floating buildings that were reported early on.

Living in New York, I fly this scenery often and it's nearly perfect. Improvements that would be nice would be better model of the Empire State building with more accurate night lighting, adding the animated tram (Roosevelt Island Tram) that runs next to the 59th street bridge, and the Cloisters in Fort Tyron Park. They are lesser know by tourists but very unique to Manhattan and would make the scenery that much more awesome. I know any addition will impact an already FPS demanding scenery but here's to wishful thinking.

[Mathijs Kok]

The files are currently being send to the installer guys so I expect this new version to be out in a day or two. I just done the fps tests and am pleasantly surprised. With high settings (there must be hundreds of cars driving around in the shot I attach) I get up to 40 fps without any issues. This is one of those project however where using a limited FPS really hurts. If I set it to 30 I only get 25 or so, if I set it to unlimited I get 40 fps, with better smoothness. Go figure.

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[deverette]

Simply awesome!

I work on the water on the Hudson & East Rivers, and around the Battery & GI. Manhattan X is one of my favorite sceneries to just fly around in a helo. Seeing the update (especially at GZ) is amazing.

Thanks for the update!

Have you included a scenery update at Pier 86 (Intrepid) to include Enterprise?

Shot I took when she arrived...

http://www.arcticspi...rrival/shuttle4

[Hiflyer]

Nice, and thank you! During the update, will the floating buildings in the upper west side be addressed?

[Mathijs Kok]

Nice, and thank you! During the update, will the floating buildings in the upper west side be addressed?

If the correct settings are used and there are no conflicting scenery products that change the mesh all should be well.

[wallydog69]

Mathijs,

Thanks again for the update. I believe the floating buildings has been an issue reported early on when the scenery was first released and still exist with the proper settings. They are located mostly in central and west harlem west of where Columbia University is. There is also a small strip south of the 59th Street Bridge on the east side by the river. There really aren't that many notable buildings in harlem and it wasn't until another poster commented on them that I noticed.

http://forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?/topic/22675-manhattenx-airborn-buildings/page__hl__+manhattanx%20+floating#entry200565

[Hiflyer]

In a previous post (long long ago) I think I called it the "Spindizzy area" after James Blish's spindizzys, used in his Cities In Flight http://en.wikipedia....ities_in_Flight novels to lift whole cities (Including New York) off the ground and out to the stars.

Manhattan, as the city I was born and raised in is actually my favorite Aerosoft scenery, so I have always kept an eye open for an update/fix for this. If it turns out to be a problem at my end, I will be really miffed at myself!

[Mathijs Kok]

Mathijs,

Thanks again for the update. I believe the floating buildings has been an issue reported early on when the scenery was first released and still exist with the proper settings. They are located mostly in central and west harlem west of where Columbia University is. There is also a small strip south of the 59th Street Bridge on the east side by the river. There really aren't that many notable buildings in harlem and it wasn't until another poster commented on them that I noticed.

http://forum.aerosof...ing#entry200565

Right, it's a pretty hard problem to solve technically (and will slow things down considerably as large square tiles need to be cut into many many more smaller ones) and that's why we decided previously not to solve it. Of course also because this is an issue that is not easy to see if you fly around, even from a helicopter the issue is largely hidden. As it was all a long time ago it forgot about that.

But I will discuss it with the developer.

[bsisneroz]

I have the boxed version of Manhattan X v1.20 and I have the latest version of the Aerosoft Launcher yet I can't find the update for this product. When I try to register on the support database I don't see the Manhattan X product listed anywhere. Can someoen please help me get this update..

[mopperle]

Should be visible:

[fredm]

I am not seeing it either from http://aerosoft-shop...m/support.php?' (in English).

[mopperle]

I am not seeing it either from http://aerosoft-shop...pport.php?&#39; (in English).

The database is for all languages the same, only the frontend is translated. Again, you have to register it and the page looks like this:

[dmm200]

Awesome update. I did notice, however, that you guys never removed the Deutsche Bank building from next to ground zero. It was condemned and deconstructed floor by floor and no longer stands. Is there a particular BGL file that is associated with it or will it not be removed?

[Mathijs Kok]

Awesome update. I did notice, however, that you guys never removed the Deutsche Bank building from next to ground zero. It was condemned and deconstructed floor by floor and no longer stands. Is there a particular BGL file that is associated with it or will it not be removed?

Do me a favor, make me an image.

[dmm200]

http://en.wikipedia.......<br /><br />

Real life image: http://en.wikipedia......g<br /><br />

FS: http://s544.photobuc...=groundzero.jpg

[wallydog69]

Right, it's a pretty hard problem to solve technically (and will slow things down considerably as large square tiles need to be cut into many many more smaller ones) and that's why we decided previously not to solve it. Of course also because this is an issue that is not easy to see if you fly around, even from a helicopter the issue is largely hidden. As it was all a long time ago it forgot about that.

But I will discuss it with the developer.

Thanks Mathijs. The elevation issue should not be terribly difficult to fix. Through some tinkering I've managed to adjust the elevation of those buildings in Harlem but it isn't a true fix since this also means that a small area is below grade. I would assume the developer should be able to adjust these elevations pretty easily or at least extend the buildings to the ground with little or no impact to frames.

There is also a minor texture transparency bug with the Williamsburg bridge that was relatively easy to fix that the developer should be made aware.

Lastly it was reported a long time ago that the Angular top of the Citi Building is facing the opposite way (180 deg) than what it should. The building placement is fine - just the angled top is off.

[Hiflyer]

Whatever happens, I still think its the most ambitious city scenery ever done for FSX. I doubt that anyone will ever even attempt to match it ever again, at least not in FSX, and it belongs in the library of anyone interested in flying the area. The default FSX NY just wont do after seeing this.

It also makes a great frame-rate testing tool, since if you tune your installation to run this at an acceptable clip with a large 3PD Kennedy airport also running in the area, you can pretty much take for granted that you can run anything in FSX.

[Texanator]

Manhattan X is truly one of the best add-ons ever for FSX. Period. I do have a question regarding the update...a while ago I saw a post requesting a more realistic night version of the Empire State Building. Is it possible this was updated in the latest release?

The real building is relatively dark at night except for the top which is brilliantly lit in 3 levels that can be done with different colors. Default is white unless they are celebrating something special. The original Manhattan X version is a bit too bright throughout. Otherwise, all other textures are great. Thanks!

[Mathijs Kok]

Manhattan X is truly one of the best add-ons ever for FSX. Period. I do have a question regarding the update...a while ago I saw a post requesting a more realistic night version of the Empire State Building. Is it possible this was updated in the latest release?

The real building is relatively dark at night except for the top which is brilliantly lit in 3 levels that can be done with different colors. Default is white unless they are celebrating something special. The original Manhattan X version is a bit too bright throughout. Otherwise, all other textures are great. Thanks!

I think that was from a user and not from us.

[Texanator]

I think that was from a user and not from us.

Yes it was a user request, thanks for the reply. I was just seeing if by chance you were planning to update the building per the request.