VAFPilot 17 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 Hello, I recently contacted Honeycomb regarding the instructions for installing the driver and assigning the switches to the proper functions of the aircraft (lighting and electrical) in P3D (XPlane works great). Currently it seems the assignments do not work and the method for using the software/driver are not working either. Honeycomb informed me Aerosoft created the driver/software and was working the issue. Any idea when we can expect an updated working version of the software? I know there’s a lot happening at Aerosoft (really looking forward to the A330) but any insight or information would be appreciated. I couldn’t find a post on this issue but if there is one my apologies.l Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deputy Sheriffs Tom A320 4915 Posted October 29, 2019 Deputy Sheriffs Share Posted October 29, 2019 Please check the product page of the Alpha Yoke. There you will find the config tool for P3D (and FSX) for download. https://www.aerosoft.com/en/hardware/flight-simulation/yokes/2567/honeycomb-alpha-flight-controls?number=AS14514 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FSC190 1 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 Hi, I have just received my Alpha Yoke and from my side, I can recommend to use LINDA instead of the honeycomb software, It is much easier to assign any function of many given Modules even with switches and not only buttons. Even with PMDG NGX and other it is as easy as with any other switch panel. And by the way, what a great yoke is this !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerosoft Aerosoft Team [Inactive Account] 51558 Posted October 30, 2019 Aerosoft Share Posted October 30, 2019 There is a new driver on the way that should made assigning controls easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VAFPilot 17 Posted October 31, 2019 Author Share Posted October 31, 2019 Tom, i did use the URL contained in the literature with the yoke which is how I got the driver and software. Is it different from the link you provided? Mathijs, Thanks for the information. I know all of you are busy, but how will we know when the new software is available? Will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerosoft Aerosoft Team [Inactive Account] 51558 Posted October 31, 2019 Aerosoft Share Posted October 31, 2019 Use the Updater tool... Please login to display this image. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deputy Sheriffs Eric Bakker 736 Posted October 31, 2019 Deputy Sheriffs Share Posted October 31, 2019 11 hours ago, VAFPilot said: Mathijs, Thanks for the information. I know all of you are busy, but how will we know when the new software is available? You can also check it in the program, see screenshot. Please login to display this image. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainero 7 Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 This is a bit irritating. When I select "Updates" in the program, it says: "A new Version is available" (spelling!). But where can I find it? According to the AS updater I have version 1.0.2.1 installed, which seems to be the latest. This is a very nice peace of hardware. I bought mine on Saturday in Lelystad. However, the software seems to be a little bit unfinished to me. I'm looking forward to the Bravo Throttle. I have already preordered it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaab 39 Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 On 10/30/2019 at 10:07 AM, Mathijs Kok said: There is a new driver on the way that should made assigning controls easier. A suggestion : would be great to be able to give a small script : example for BCN light, to insure proper synchronisation between switch and "result" : button 21 (A:LIGHT BEACON, bool) ! if{ (>K:TOGGLE_BEACON_LIGHTS) } button 22 (A:LIGHT BEACON, bool) if{ (>K:TOGGLE_BEACON_LIGHTS) } Would give more flexibility to customize the behaviour without adding extra gauge in each aircraft. Gerard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainero 7 Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 Vor 1 Stunde, Rainero sagte: This is a very nice peace of hardware. Of course it should be "piece of hardware". Oh this spell checking..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerosoft BenBaron 287 Posted November 3, 2019 Aerosoft Share Posted November 3, 2019 vor 1 hour , gaab sagte: A suggestion : would be great to be able to give a small script : example for BCN light, to insure proper synchronisation between switch and "result" : button 21 (A:LIGHT BEACON, bool) ! if{ (>K:TOGGLE_BEACON_LIGHTS) } button 22 (A:LIGHT BEACON, bool) if{ (>K:TOGGLE_BEACON_LIGHTS) } Would give more flexibility to customize the behaviour without adding extra gauge in each aircraft. Gerard Hi Gerard, thanks for the suggestion. We'll discuss if we can add this feature in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deputy Sheriffs Eric Bakker 736 Posted November 3, 2019 Deputy Sheriffs Share Posted November 3, 2019 7 hours ago, Rainero said: This is a bit irritating. When I select "Updates" in the program, it says: "A new Version is available" (spelling!). But where can I find it? According to the AS updater I have version 1.0.2.1 installed, which seems to be the latest. I have the same problem indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VAFPilot 17 Posted November 4, 2019 Author Share Posted November 4, 2019 But for those of us who don't know how to interpret or write this type of code (for a lack of better terms) how do we get it working? Also, the current software seems to do weird things. For example, when I switch views from interior to exterior it moves the flap switch up/down (I simply installed the yoke software and made no adjustments/assignments.) Mechanically the yoke works for basic flight control but the switches are completely useless at this point. And since it's interfering with my flap operations I had to uninstall it. I was hoping it wouldn't interfere so that I could use the AS Updater when a new release is out but I can't tolerate how bad this is. It works perfectly in XPlane: I don't understand why it's so complicated in P3D. No offense to Aerosoft, but I don't understand why Honeycomb didn't develop their own software/driver for their product or hire out. But it should have shipped with a CD or a link to the Honeycomb site. For example, Saitek has its own software for its products: why not Honeycomb? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkHurst 173 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 1 hour ago, VAFPilot said: Also, the current software seems to do weird things. ... Saitek has its own software for its products: why not Honeycomb? I am guessing that P3D behaves like FSX, which means it will automatically assign your buttons to some functions when you install the yoke. As far as I know there is no consistent convention for button assignments, so this is very likely to fail and you will have switches assigned to apparently random functions. All you need to do to fix your problems is to go into the P3D controls page and assign the switches to the functions you want. As far as I can tell without actually trying it, the Aerosoft program just loads and saves custom sets of assignments. I think you can do this already in P3D. You can certainly do it with FSUIPC (although you won't get the last three positions of the mag switch). I am presuming this is something like the program that comes with Saitek hardware does, although like many people I never bothered with it because it isn't required for basic functionality. Also, as far as I can tell, the Honeycomb yoke doesn't come with a driver and nor does it need one, unless someone tells me otherwise. I am pretty sure it is just a standard joystick and it works fine as a native Windows device. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainero 7 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 vor 2 Stunden , VAFPilot sagte: It works perfectly in XPlane: I don't understand why it's so complicated in P3D. In my case I found that the numbering of the starter switch was wrong in X-Plane. Please login to display this image. In the settings 5 was assigned to: Magnetos off, 4 to Magnetos right and so forth. It seems that 5 should read 1, 4 should 2 etc. instead. The correct assignment for me is: Please login to display this image. I tested it with the Cessna Skyhawk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerosoft BenBaron 287 Posted November 4, 2019 Aerosoft Share Posted November 4, 2019 vor 1 hour , MarkHurst sagte: I am guessing that P3D behaves like FSX, which means it will automatically assign your buttons to some functions when you install the yoke. As far as I know there is no consistent convention for button assignments, so this is very likely to fail and you will have switches assigned to apparently random functions. All you need to do to fix your problems is to go into the P3D controls page and assign the switches to the functions you want. As far as I can tell without actually trying it, the Aerosoft program just loads and saves custom sets of assignments. I think you can do this already in P3D. You can certainly do it with FSUIPC (although you won't get the last three positions of the mag switch). I am presuming this is something like the program that comes with Saitek hardware does, although like many people I never bothered with it because it isn't required for basic functionality. Also, as far as I can tell, the Honeycomb yoke doesn't come with a driver and nor does it need one, unless someone tells me otherwise. I am pretty sure it is just a standard joystick and it works fine as a native Windows device. That is correct, thanks for the explanation, Mark. To add to this, the extra software is basically useful for assigning more non-standard functionality whereas FSX/P3D e.g. only allows for toggeling of certain functions instead of actually setting distinct states. This will be extended in the future and the yoke is otherwise working, can be assigned and used like any other plug&play device. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deputy Sheriffs Eric Bakker 736 Posted November 4, 2019 Deputy Sheriffs Share Posted November 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Rainero said: In my case I found that the numbering of the starter switch was wrong in X-Plane. I do not know which XP11 version you are using, but please note that Austin corrected this and other errors in the latest 11.40 beta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainero 7 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 I was using 11.36. I just updated to 11.40r2 and now the numbering is correct. Thx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaab 39 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Question : in AddOn menu of Prepar3D, there is a Show (or Hide) Button Bindings. But I don't see anything... Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VAFPilot 17 Posted November 4, 2019 Author Share Posted November 4, 2019 Well, I've already assigned the buttons in P3D natively and it still does not work (did that when I first received the yoke a few weeks ago). And to note, not all lights on the Alpha yoke have corresponding assignments in P3D. Since the switches aren't working even though I've assigned them I thought that was what the driver/software would do. As it stands nothing works for the switches (at least for me). If anyone has been able to get the corresponding switches to work in P3D for the Alpha yoke I would certainly appreciate succint instructions on how it was accomplished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveCT2003 2553 Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 Guys, I've been using the yoke with, znd without the Honeycomb drivers since June. I'm sure I can help. I'll be back at my computer tomorrow and I'll start the support to help you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VAFPilot 17 Posted November 5, 2019 Author Share Posted November 5, 2019 That would be GREATLY appreciated, Dave. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerosoft BenBaron 287 Posted November 5, 2019 Aerosoft Share Posted November 5, 2019 vor 7 Stunden , gaab sagte: Question : in AddOn menu of Prepar3D, there is a Show (or Hide) Button Bindings. But I don't see anything... Thanks Gerard, that's supposed to show a green text message with the corresponding function, when you press a button that has been assigned via the software. Are you sure that is not what's happening? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VAFPilot 17 Posted November 5, 2019 Author Share Posted November 5, 2019 17 hours ago, BenBaron said: Gerard, that's supposed to show a green text message with the corresponding function, when you press a button that has been assigned via the software. Are you sure that is not what's happening? Hmmm. I went to "Options", "Add-ons..." and all I see are scenery addons: nothing there about button bindings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaab 39 Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 18 hours ago, BenBaron said: Gerard, that's supposed to show a green text message with the corresponding function, when you press a button that has been assigned via the software. Are you sure that is not what's happening? I thought so, but no message. Edit1 : adding a text in the YokeConfig.json display a message (because I suspected that the fonction to display must be specified somewhere !!!) But, no way to add it using the YokeInput utility. Updating manually the templates or profiles is not sufficient, as the text is not copied to the active profile by the YokeInput. -------------------- "ButtonNumber": 0, "PressEvent": [ { "ButtonNumber": 0, "PressEvent": [ { "Variable": ">K:PARKING_BRAKES", "Value": "", "Repeat": false, "DE": "Parking Brakes DE", "EN": "Parking Brakes EN", "FR": "Parking Brakes FE", "ES": "Parking Brakes ES" } --------------------------- BTW, I would like to change the text color. I tried modifying in the [DISPLAY] section (which works great for other Prepar3D messages...) InfoUpperLeftTextColorUser InfoUpperLeftTextColorNonUser with no luck. Thanks for your support Gérard Edit 2 : there are hundreds of error messages in the contenterror.txt file when the yoke add-on is activated... [error.xxx] error=Gauge/Script Error Type: Unknown Name: Unknown Error: Empty parentheses or closing parenthese missing: "()" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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