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19 minutes ago, Goshob said:

Hi Dave,

The folder was empty. Same is the situation with a very big amount of sub-folders under Appdata/roaming/Lockheed Martin/Prepar 3D/SimObjects. 

 

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No worries my friend, all is good and you can just leave those folders where they are if you wish.  I will try to get a little more info, but they shouldn't affect your sim one way or the other.

 

 

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well, this is new.. 1.2.4.2 

 

at cruise right now fl370, managed speed should be .77

 

autopilot switches to speed (250 kts), decelerates to 250, switches back to mach (.77), reaches .77 and goes to speed 250 again, repeat forever.

 

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Did you reboot after applying the update?

 

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negative. is rebooting standard for aerosofts? 

 

if so maybe the updater should force/suggest rebooting

 

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31 minutes ago, kvuo75 said:

negative. is rebooting standard for aerosofts? 

 

if so maybe the updater should force/suggest rebooting

 

 

Yes sir, reboot required after an install and/or updating the Airbus.

 

Let us know how you make out?

 

 

32 minutes ago, kvuo75 said:

if so maybe the updater should force/suggest rebooting 

 

I agree!  We passed this recommendation along sometime ago, but it's not been implemented yet.  I'm sure it's on the schedule to be done, but I'll ask again!

 

Many thanks!

 

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Actually Dave, there is no reason the sim will run any different after a reboot. Only when we include fonts we will advise rebooting. That is always in the readme when that is the case.  A reboot will never hurt of course but it's not mandatory.

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Boss, I understand, but rebooting has solved a lot of these random issues and I've experienced this myself. Three such customer issues resolved simply by tebooting yesterday after they rebooted. Maybe a Windows file registration thing?

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Yeah my issue yesterday was fixed by a reboot after installing the new update .. i normally do it any way but this time i didnt and ran into an IRS issue .

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well i rebooted and did another flight and it behaved normally.. these managed speed / vnav problems have been sporadic anyway so who knows.

 

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sorry, tonight from egkk to ehrd. and the same problems right after the start. version 1.2.4.2.

done a fresh install. and all folders removed the first time after the fresh install everything went perfect but today it was again problems. I also do not know anymore.

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20 minutes ago, chiel99 said:

sorry, tonight from egkk to ehrd. and the same problems right after the start. version 1.2.4.2.

done a fresh install. and all folders removed the first time after the fresh install everything went perfect but today it was again problems. I also do not know anymore.

 

Can you please provide the complete flight route, which models you were using for AI Aircraft, and what specifically occurred with the aircraft and when it happened?  We've seen a few people who thought they were having the "Managed Speed" issue who actually weren't, so a description of what occurred is important.  Also, it's very important to let us know if you're using EZCA or if you have any Carendo aircraft installed.

 

With at at least some situtation, we're beginning to believe it's either third party software and/or AI models causing this.

 

 

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Just to add, if it helps.  I am experiencing this problem as well.  I am currently doing a flight from NZQN to NZCH (not relevant I would think), but after I filled in the APPR Data into the MCDU and Activated it, that seemed to trigger the sudden N1 decrease in Managed Speed.I have to now manually Manage the speed. This may help, it may not mean anything, I just thought I would share.

Regards

 

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5 hours ago, canadagoose said:

Just to add, if it helps.  I am experiencing this problem as well.  I am currently doing a flight from NZQN to NZCH (not relevant I would think), but after I filled in the APPR Data into the MCDU and Activated it, that seemed to trigger the sudden N1 decrease in Managed Speed.I have to now manually Manage the speed. This may help, it may not mean anything, I just thought I would share.

Regards

 

You might actually be activating Approach mode far too early ... i tend not to activate it till im close to the airport , when you activate APP mode the airbus will start to reduce to green dot speed then towards Vref if in managed mode when you lower the flaps etc , normally you fill out the APP page then wait to activate it on the approach or just before it.

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Affirm as keenrw said, you should not activate the approach mode until you are around 15-25 mles aways from the airport. In fact if you are following the NAV profile the aircraft will do this automatically for you at deceleration point (circled D on the navigation display). You can set everything up on the approach page like the QNH, winds, temperature, minimums and flap setting as these values have an effect on the VNAV profile calculations, just don't activate it yet.

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A kind reminder.... checking on the issues on the last few pages of this topic it seems a lot of the issues are simply to be expected as the procedures are not being followed. We seriously love input on this issue as we know we got situations our model should behave different, but please make sure that things you report are in fact bugs. If you doubt, it might be better to open a new topic.

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For what it's worth....I was one of the early reporters of this issue way back. I've never encountered this error again since the last 2 experimental updates. :D

My past few hundred hours of flights are problem free. Except for that stubborn GSX that keeps on leaving the door open! lol

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I still see this "magenta" rollback during climb at or near crossover altitude/speed on almost (if not) every flight (commanding something like 166 kts) but the a/c still follows the correct speed (usually 280-300 kts) and the problem goes away either at TOC or by just playing with the altitude knob (push or pull).  Haven't seen it occur at cruise in some time.

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Hello Sabretooth,

 

would you be able to take this magenta rollback effect on video. I’m curious how it actually looks like as I have not seen such behaviour yet during my flights. But at least knowing what can happen helps me to monitor it better if it ever happens. Thanks!

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