Flying_Timm Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 vor 6 Stunden schrieb Mathijs Kok: Not on the list at this moment, but I will discuss it. Keep in mind this will not be a $70 aircraft. Will you excuse missing essential features for now always with this reason? We're not responsible for your pricing nor for your business but we do expect certain features. Takeoff performance calculation is a essential + one of the most important features in flight planning due to cost reduction and safety. I dont see any reason to not implement it and make it down to the pricing. Keep the iphone on the table and cough and rather implement takeoff performance calculation into it instead 5 1 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svend Loggerhead Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 56 minutes ago, Flying_Timm said: Will you excuse missing essential features for now always with this reason? We're not responsible for your pricing nor for your business but we do expect certain features. Takeoff performance calculation is a essential + one of the most important features in flight planning due to cost reduction and safety. I dont see any reason to not implement it and make it down to the pricing. Keep the iphone on the table and cough and rather implement takeoff performance calculation into it instead I mean we already have takeoff performance, and I don’t think a specific feature for calculations based on if you actually use all of the runway is very important, and I would prefer getting an affordable product (no pressure, aerosoft) than unnecessary features. Besides, if it’s really that important, just decrease the runway length yourself with a rough estimate. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root Admin Mathijs Kok Posted January 29 Author Root Admin Share Posted January 29 2 hours ago, Flying_Timm said: Will you excuse missing essential features for now always with this reason? If you find this en essential feature, this product simply is not for you, sorry. That happens. But could it be you simply did not understand the question was not about take-off performance, but about take-off performance from an intersection? I mean, if you consider that an essential feature not even PMDG will do for you. 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root Admin Popular Post Mathijs Kok Posted January 29 Author Root Admin Popular Post Share Posted January 29 Before there is a lot of nonsense written about take-off performance. Of course we calculate that, we just do not calculate it from intersections. Not only because it would be very rare that an A330 would use that, secondly it is a function that by far not all EFB's contain. Heck not even all A330 have and EFB at this moment, we do a deluxe model, lol. Here is what we do have. Please login to display this image. EHAM-LFBO Flight plan loaded, click. Please login to display this image. 3330 meter runway. FLEX 41 Please login to display this image. 2020 meter runway, TOGA Please login to display this image. Trying to take off from a 2200 meter runway for a flight to LAX. Please login to display this image. And a neat CG chart 14 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svend Loggerhead Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 Looks amazing! Can’t wait for this to come out 😃 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root Admin Mathijs Kok Posted January 29 Author Root Admin Share Posted January 29 1 hour ago, Svend Loggerhead said: I mean we already have takeoff performance, and I don’t think a specific feature for calculations based on if you actually use all of the runway is very important, and I would prefer getting an affordable product (no pressure, aerosoft) than unnecessary features. Besides, if it’s really that important, just decrease the runway length yourself with a rough estimate. The decision not do do calculation for take-off from an intersection, was not taken without discussion. Reduced runway length take-offs are extremely rare for for long haul flights. Basically is is only a thing on empty reposition flights. When we use the same EFB for smaller airliners it will of course be added. We did look seriously for a database, but Lufthansa Data Systems, Navigraph etc simply do not offer that data. So we would have to do it like the M80 does and have the pilot manually reduced the runway length. Again, useful for a medium haul aircraft. It is not an aircraft function but a pilot function that is these days often done by and EFB. Not every EFB has that option btw. Not every A330 has an EFB even in this day and age. 4 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simtom Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 On 1/27/2023 at 7:47 PM, Mathijs Kok said: I will discuss that on Monday. Could also ask the folks from Fenix, they offer both a Blender and Substance 3D model. Of course, it only includes the stuff you need like fuselage and engines. All the rest is removed (animations, landing gears, cockpit, ...). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black2306 Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 Your efb looks amazing 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scandinavian Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 The A330 is not just a long haul aircraft, it's also very often a high density medium distance hauler. So intersection departures aren't a rare occurrence in a 330. Intersection distances are at least in Europe almost always listed on chart 10-9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benutzer Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 vor 16 Minuten schrieb Mathijs Kok: Reduced runway length take-offs are extremely rare for for long haul flights. Basically is is only a thing on empty reposition flights. When we use the same EFB for smaller airliners it will of course be added. Please login to display this image. That looks like a intersection take-off to me and it is a long-haul per definition by the EU. Flights like this often do intersection take-offs. 1 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benutzer Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 Please login to display this image. Please login to display this image. Please login to display this image. wo. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying_Timm Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 vor 27 Minuten schrieb Mathijs Kok: The decision not do do calculation for take-off from an intersection, was not taken without discussion. Reduced runway length take-offs are extremely rare for for long haul flights. Basically is is only a thing on empty reposition flights. When we use the same EFB for smaller airliners it will of course be added. We did look seriously for a database, but Lufthansa Data Systems, Navigraph etc simply do not offer that data. So we would have to do it like the M80 does and have the pilot manually reduced the runway length. Again, useful for a medium haul aircraft. It is not an aircraft function but a pilot function that is these days often done by and EFB. Not every EFB has that option btw. Not every A330 has an EFB even in this day and age. You're right about the fact that long-haul planes doesn't use intersection departures very often but they do so. And if your calculation is done in a proper way in the background, it wouldn't be that hard to implement intersections too, isn't it? Lots of EFB's do it correctly these days (in flight sim). Like for Frankfurt, there are plenty of options available for intersection takeoff's. However, whatever - bring this thing out! We need something for long-haul 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonardo Meschini Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 3 hours ago, Leonardo Meschini said: Mi chiedevo ma per l'arrivo di questo uccellino su xbox dovrò aspettare almeno l'aggiornamento di marzo? ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root Admin Mathijs Kok Posted January 29 Author Root Admin Share Posted January 29 1 hour ago, Scandinavian said: The A330 is not just a long haul aircraft, it's also very often a high density medium distance hauler. So intersection departures aren't a rare occurrence in a 330. I am sorry, the A330 pilots we have in our team simply do not agree with you. But as said, we have discussed this issue and made our decision. If that is an essential feature for you, simply buy another aircraft that has that option. So let's close this issue. It is not planned for the release of the A330, might be added when we do smaller aircraft using the same EFB. 5 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root Admin Mathijs Kok Posted January 29 Author Root Admin Share Posted January 29 1 hour ago, Leonardo Meschini said: ? Release on Xbox is never done by us but by Microsoft. So simply unable to comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scandinavian Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 6 minutes ago, Mathijs Kok said: If that is an essential feature for you, simply buy another aircraft that has that option. I'll do just that 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root Admin Mathijs Kok Posted January 29 Author Root Admin Share Posted January 29 34 minutes ago, Scandinavian said: I'll do just that Damn, it is not often that you hear lacking intersection take-off calculations for a long haul aircraft are a reason not buy something, lol. But not buying a product is fine. While I do not often pay for MSFS DLC, I rather spend my money on things that have all the features I consider vital. There are hundreds of fine aircraft to buy and I am sure you will find dozens that offer the functionality that we do not offer. If my information is correct the Fenix 320 and MD80 have that option (and that is good as these aircraft use it a lot). Surely not any PDMG aircraft, or the other medium haul aircraft on my system (and I got stuff you have not even heard of, lol). Now I am of course jesting. But I am honestly wondering what you will buy if this a deal breaker for you? Am I missing all the DLC that has this option? ------- Did you know there are many airlines where crew is forbidden to accept an intersection entry to a runway? No matter the weight? So if you want to do an intersection take-off, make sure your company policy allows it! 5 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wingscatcher Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 And still, I bet you he still buys the plane.... 4 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyeer330 Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 Matthias, check the fonts and the thicknesses of the fonts and also Lower Ecam ‘’Gear Page’’ the indications of the gears (triangles) are wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenegadeNine Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 Will we see auto-step climb functionality? It was one of the key missing features for me in the P3D version as someone who mostly does long hauls whilst sleeping/away from my PC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root Admin Mathijs Kok Posted January 29 Author Root Admin Share Posted January 29 1 minute ago, RenegadeNine said: Will we see auto-step climb functionality? It was one of the key missing features for me in the P3D version as someone who mostly does long hauls whilst sleeping/away from my PC. Indeed, indeed. Super complex stuff. being worked on. 4 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frap 99 Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 3 hours ago, Mathijs Kok said: Before there is a lot of nonsense written about take-off performance. Of course we calculate that, we just do not calculate it from intersections. Not only because it would be very rare that an A330 would use that, secondly it is a function that by far not all EFB's contain. Heck not even all A330 have and EFB at this moment, we do a deluxe model, lol. Here is what we do have. Please login to display this image. EHAM-LFBO Flight plan loaded, click. Please login to display this image. 3330 meter runway. FLEX 41 Please login to display this image. 2020 meter runway, TOGA Please login to display this image. Trying to take off from a 2200 meter runway for a flight to LAX. Please login to display this image. And a neat CG chart Idk why people complain this is just perfect 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delif Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 When landing, and engaging the Reverse thrust, will we be able to hear the spool of the trents when the reverse starts to kick in? In P3d it wasn't the case, and it is the case in real life. Also wondering if there was a chance to get a glimpse of the cockpit sounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root Admin Mathijs Kok Posted January 29 Author Root Admin Share Posted January 29 Honestly, last comment from me on the intersection take-off thing (that we will not do for the initial release).... Just had a text from friend who flew for Delta for many many years. He told me the example shown of a Delta take-off is not according to the company policy. They should have used the full runway. And this completes this topic.... 1 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root Admin Mathijs Kok Posted January 29 Author Root Admin Share Posted January 29 1 minute ago, Delif said: When landing, and engaging the Reverse thrust, will we be able to hear the spool of the trents when the reverse starts to kick in? In P3d it wasn't the case, and it is the case in real life. Also wondering if there was a chance to get a glimpse of the cockpit sounds. I will try to get sound samples this week. 7 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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