Basic Honeycomb Bravo throttle controls with the MSFS Aerosoft Twin Otter

[SimWare]

Basic Honeycomb Bravo throttle controls with the MSFS Aerosoft Twin Otter

 

This tutorial will demonstrate the basic setups to use the Bravo throttle with the Twin Otter.

 

We will cover the following points :
 

• Throttle
• Throttle reversers
• Propeller pitch
• Propeller feather
• Fuel mixture
• Flaps
• Elevator trim
• Alternate  throttle reversers

 

As usual, don’t rely on the default assignments that will appear when the Bravo is hooked up to the computer.
The Twin Otter is a dual-engine, variable pitch aircraft.
Not the standard default single engine fixed pitch most of the default assignment profiles are based on.
So, instead of altering, renaming, debugging automatic profiles, just start from scratch.

As a reminder, here is how to create a new profile in MSFS :

 

STEP 1 :
- Go to OPTIONS -> CONTROLS OPTIONS

- Select POWER MANAGEMENT -> THROTTLE

- Make the assignments as on the picture below
The reversers are triggered by the THROTTLE x DECREASE functions
NOTE : Do not check the REVERSE AXIS boxes

 

STEP 2 :

- Select POWER MANAGEMENT -> PROPELLER

- Make the assignments as on the picture below
The feather is  triggered by the TOGGLE PROPELLER REVERSE THRUST function

 

STEP 3 :

- Select POWER MANAGEMENT -> MIXTURE

- Make the assignments as on the picture below

 

STEP 4 :
- Select POWER FLIGHT CONTROL SURFACES -> CONTROL TRIMMING SURFACES

- Make the assignments in RED as on the picture below
- Select POWER FLIGHT CONTROL SURFACES -> SECONDARY CONTROL SURFACES
- Make the assignments in YELLOW as on the picture below

 

 

You are ready to fly !

Here is an alternate method to control the throttle reversers.
Pro’s :
It allows for fine reversers level modulation
Con’s :
Both engine #1 and #2 reversers are triggered together by the engine #1 lever.
 

Make the assignments as on the picture below.
NOTE : Do not assign the THROTTLE x DECREASE functions !


Reversers level modulation :

 

[testorius]

Even smoother is the use of the small red button. 🙂

 

 

[SimWare]

8 minutes ago, testorius said:

Even smoother is the use of the small red button. 🙂

 

 

That is a great idea !
Thanks Testorius.

[Eric Bakker]

5 hours ago, testorius said:

Even smoother is the use of the small red button. 🙂

 

 

 

True, but in that case do not forget to fully pull back the prop first.

[Eric Bakker]

Cedric, I was wondering, can we assign 'prop feather' to the prop reverse buttons? Now I need to use the mouse to feather the prop.

[liazkam]

An issue I encountered: The elevator trim wheel on the Honeycomb comb is not an axis, but as shown above, it is a button for each direction.

Right now in MSFS each move of the wheel creates a single click which makes a slight movement in the simulated trim wheel. So you will see the "trim motion" light comes up, but almost no movement in the simulated trim itself.

 

I was wondering if you encountered such behaviour?

 

SimHanger just recently posted a video which addresses this exact issue, but uses a 3rd party software tool

 

[meierzwo]

The Trim Wheel is a undergoing Issue in the SIM. Asobo had fixed it in one of the Updates, and broke it again in the next one.

[SimWare]

19 hours ago, meierzwo said:

The Trim Wheel is a undergoing Issue in the SIM. Asobo had fixed it in one of the Updates, and broke it again in the next one.

Trimming the aircraft with the TRIM UP and TRIM DOWN inputs will actually correctly trim the plane.
But there is no visual animation of the trim whell in the aircraft itself.
This should not be a big issue however as when using a hardware device, one is supposed to rely 

on the movement of the hardware itself.

 

Best regards.
 

[SimWare]

On 1/22/2022 at 12:30 AM, Eric Bakker said:

Cedric, I was wondering, can we assign 'prop feather' to the prop reverse buttons? Now I need to use the mouse to feather the prop.

Hi Eric,

Can you explain what you mean exactly ?
I am afraid I don't understand the question.... Sorry...

[Eric Bakker]

5 hours ago, SimWare said:

Hi Eric,

Can you explain what you mean exactly ?
I am afraid I don't understand the question.... Sorry...

 I will PM you, to avoid lengthy discussions here

[Eric Bakker]

5 hours ago, SimWare said:

Trimming the aircraft with the TRIM UP and TRIM DOWN inputs will actually correctly trim the plane.
But there is no visual animation of the trim whell in the aircraft itself.

 

Good news, the animation is added in the update.

[SimWare]

2 minutes ago, Eric Bakker said:

 I will PM you, to avoid lengthy discussions here

Sure !

 

[SimWare]

2 minutes ago, Eric Bakker said:

 

Good news, the animation is added in the update.

Cool ! Thanks for info.

[zannu]

On 1/22/2022 at 12:30 AM, Eric Bakker said:

Cedric, I was wondering, can we assign 'prop feather' to the prop reverse buttons? Now I need to use the mouse to feather the prop.

Mee to i configured the feather option on bravo but when i'm put the lever in reverse (propeller lever) no feather, i need to use the mouse to put in feather.

thanks

[meierzwo]

On 24.1.2022 at 12:44, SimWare sagte:

Trimming the aircraft with the TRIM UP and TRIM DOWN inputs will actually correctly trim the plane.
But there is no visual animation of the trim whell in the aircraft itself.
This should not be a big issue however as when using a hardware device, one is supposed to rely 

on the movement of the hardware itself.

 

Best regards.
 

It's not the Animation or the Trimming Function itself. It's the Repeating Time or Acceleration for Trim Up and Trim Down on the Trim Wheel. In many Planes, you need way to much Input. Spinning around the Wheel many Times and the Plane did react way to slow on the Input. X-Plane did it correct but in MSFS it's a Bug. It was fixed. A little bit to much, but gone with the next Update. If you have the Alpha Yoke, it's better to use the Trim Switches there instead of the Trim Wheel on the Bravo. At the momentary state, the Trim Wheel on the Bravo is nearly useless in MSFS.

[SimWare]

1 hour ago, meierzwo said:

It's not the Animation or the Trimming Function itself. It's the Repeating Time or Acceleration for Trim Up and Trim Down on the Trim Wheel. In many Planes, you need way to much Input. Spinning around the Wheel many Times and the Plane did react way to slow on the Input. X-Plane did it correct but in MSFS it's a Bug. It was fixed. A little bit to much, but gone with the next Update. If you have the Alpha Yoke, it's better to use the Trim Switches there instead of the Trim Wheel on the Bravo. At the momentary state, the Trim Wheel on the Bravo is nearly useless in MSFS.

We will soon release a Configurator for the Honeycomb that will allow to

set some repeat rate to an input.

This way, modulating the speed of the trim for instance

will be improved.

 

Best regards. 

[meierzwo]

vor 28 Minuten, SimWare sagte:

We will soon release a Configurator for the Honeycomb that will allow to

set some repeat rate to an input.

This way, modulating the speed of the trim for instance

will be improved.

 

Best regards. 

Thanks for that Information. That will improve a lot.

[teeloo]

 

[Transair27]

while on the topic of the Bravo and Twin Otter, I find that no AP dials work on the Bravo. I recently had the Bravo replaced but downloaded HC software again. When AP is on, the AP and VS light up but I cannot select Heading, Alt etc or use the dial to adjust anything.  Any ideas please?

DELETE REF  ALL FIXED NOW THANKS