Banalito 0 Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 Hi everyone, I have a quite annoying issue with the CRJ which I have never experienced with any other aircraft in MFS before. At almost every take off the aircraft is kind of stuck to the ground when I pull the yoke. It's like the axes is acting upside down and pushing instead of pulling. I have to wait untill 200knots to have the plane taking off by itself. Once I'm in the air the yoke works normally. Trim is set correctly, I'm within aicraft limitation for take off... Any idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRBarrett 675 Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 Check your MSFS settings to insure that the flight model parameter is set to “MODERN” not “LEGACY”. Inability to take off is one symptom that the Legacy model is active instead of Modern. Also, there have been improvements to takeoff behavior (in general) that will be contained in the CRJ update that will be coming soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffda 27 Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 Do you have an axis set for speed brakes (spoilers) and did you hit escape at some point to pause the game prior to taking off? If so, you experienced a "phantom" speed brake deployment when you resumed the game. When it happens, neither the speed brake lever nor the external view show that the speed brakes have deployed. The solution is to clear the axis, but you should be able to fix it in-flight by manually deploying and retracting the speed brakes. The other symptom would have been an inability to climb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamsean 0 Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 sounds like you are still using the legacy flight model. check to make sure modern model is selected in the menu. folks switch it around alot when playing with old imported fsx airplanes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banalito 0 Posted March 29, 2021 Author Share Posted March 29, 2021 Hey iamsean. It's the first thing I checked before I posted and no I'm not using Legacy but modern model. geoffda I do have axis for speedbracks but can't remember if I did pause the game before or not. The problem is only for take off. Once the plane is in the air, it climbs without any problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerosoft Aerosoft Team [Inactive Account] 51558 Posted March 29, 2021 Aerosoft Share Posted March 29, 2021 40 minutes ago, Banalito said: Hey iamsean. It's the first thing I checked before I posted and no I'm not using Legacy but modern model. geoffda I do have axis for speedbracks but can't remember if I did pause the game before or not. The problem is only for take off. Once the plane is in the air, it climbs without any problems. At this moment we simply do not have any other person with this issue. It seems you sim is stuck in legacy flight model. Assuming your trim and loadout is okay of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developer Hans Hartmann 3695 Posted March 29, 2021 Developer Share Posted March 29, 2021 9 hours ago, Banalito said: Hi everyone, I have a quite annoying issue with the CRJ which I have never experienced with any other aircraft in MFS before. At almost every take off the aircraft is kind of stuck to the ground when I pull the yoke. It's like the axes is acting upside down and pushing instead of pulling. I have to wait untill 200knots to have the plane taking off by itself. Once I'm in the air the yoke works normally. Trim is set correctly, I'm within aicraft limitation for take off... Any idea? If you open the fuel/payload window in MSFS and resize it to be wider, you should see this slider: Please login to display this image. Please confirm that it's on the far right (like in the picture). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marks022 1 Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 Have the same problem since the new update. Never before. The slider (CG Position) is far right; Trim and any others is set correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developer metzgergva 210 Posted March 29, 2021 Developer Share Posted March 29, 2021 To evaluate your case we would need screens from the weight UI, the EFB Load page and the two middle displays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marks022 1 Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 I tried also the tip with the extra spoiler axis - dos'nt helped me. Here aere some screens (yesterday, same flight - all was okay and fine ...) The "brake ovht" message appeard after some test takeoff's (I tried three TO - always the same problem) Please login to display this image. Please login to display this image. Please login to display this image. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marks022 1 Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 Forgot something .... The rotation is possible at about V2 + 10. At this speed the CRJ raises the nose - little bit later I had a positive rate of climb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marks022 1 Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 any news? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldhaulfield 20 Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 I have the same issue, and it's been present from day one, and continues after the update. It does not happen if I cycle the spoilers (extract/retract) as part of my taxi or takeoff checklist. So it seems like the phantom spoiler is an issue. I do not have spoilers assigned trip an acid, and I have not used esc every time this happens (which is every time). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developer metzgergva 210 Posted March 30, 2021 Developer Share Posted March 30, 2021 We need to check if the spoiler is invisible extended due to the arming process. Sorry for the trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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