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Please allow me a personal comment I have been cropping up for close to a year.   We learned about the new sim at the same time as everybody else. It is utterly incredible Microsoft and Asob

Rebirth of a legend   It is with great pride that we can announce that Microsoft has chosen Aerosoft as its retail publishing partner for the new Microsoft Flight Simulator .   Aer

No offense but I'll wait for FSL Airbus.

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vor 25 Minuten, pmb sagte:

They're the same for all versions as they only differ in airports and planes added.

I thought so, that's why I edited my question and added "(online - offline)"

 

Edit: I only get about 5 Mbps with my internet connection, so I wonder if I will stay with FSX (and photoreal sceneries) or use MSFS in offline mode (with pre-download of the countries I'm interested in).
But I think to answer this question we have to wait until MSFS is out and there are more reports about the different experiences . . .

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On 7/13/2020 at 5:59 PM, John Kunde said:

Any hardware requirements for the different PC versions (online - offline)?

 

Thanks in advance
John

 

No,  let me explain what the boxed version actually contains. Microsoft Flight SImulator (that's the name, not FS2020) contains four major parts (Note the sizes are estimates from what we know at this moment.)

  1. The simulator code itself (the 'sim') that is around pretty small in size at 900 MB,  this is a mandatory part of the sim.
  2. The world and aircraft delivered by Microsoft, (that content depends on the version (the 'content') that is around 90 GB, this is a mandatory part of the sim.
  3. Optional online streamed content (this is an optional part of the sim)
  4. 3rd party files (clearly fully optional)

Our DVD's contains 'all' of part 2, apart from the updates Microsoft and Asobo do between the moment the the DVD's are pressed and release. When you install, the sim will updates all files immediately form the servers and you will get the very latest code for the simulator itself and all content is updated. This is very much a simulator that depends on the cloud if you want to use it to its full potential. So the boxed version makes it possible for people on a slower internet connection to get the sim installed without downloading the 'content'.  So the simulator is in every way, 100% the same. The boxed retail version just gets you a nice box, printed manual and about 90 Gb you do not have to download. There is no difference between boxed retail and the verison MS sells directly. 

 

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, mopperle said:

Any pricing for the boxed version(s)?

 

We should announce that very soon but just assume it is very close to the price you pay Microsoft.

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1 hour ago, John Kunde said:

Edit: I only get about 5 Mbps with my internet connection, so I wonder if I will stay with FSX (and photoreal sceneries) or use MSFS in offline mode (with pre-download of the countries I'm interested in).
But I think to answer this question we have to wait until MSFS is out and there are more reports about the different experiences . . .

 

Sure you could, but I got less internet than you and I can tell you the comparison is silly. MFS is a simulator that still has to grow,  but I have not seen ANY area that looks better with 3rd party photoreal add-ons then default MFS with downloaded content. And yes that means I get get a glass of wine while the sim buffers. But with any connection over 25 MB you hardly notice it. 

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You mention only two boxed versions?

 

Which 2 out of the 3 digital versions will be available as physical releases? I'm assuming standard and premium deluxe edition?

 

I'm also guessing that the box will contain a code to redeem in the msft store so you end up owning the digital copy but have the choice of either downloading the game from the store or using the discs? This is how the Halo Wars 2 physical PC version was handled.

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vor 48 Minuten, Mathijs Kok sagte:

And yes that means I get get a glass of wine while the sim buffers.

Don't drink and fly! 😉

 

For me buffering is not possible. Because I'm not flying like a bus driver, I'm flying like a pensioner on a bike or on a motorhome: just discovering the world and forgetting time. Having a VFR flightplan when starting, but normally changing flightplan before landing.

 

I would like to use a "download service" from Aerosoft, let's say I would like to buy whole countries like Germany, Switzerland, Austria, Italy etc. on an USB stick.

No matter what it costs. I don't have (too) much money, but depending on the price I would vary the time until I buy the next country.
I hope you understand what I mean.

 

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12 minutes ago, John Kunde said:

Don't drink and fly! 😉

 

For me buffering is not possible. Because I'm not flying like a bus driver, I'm flying like a pensioner on a bike or on a motorhome: just discovering the world and forgetting time. Having a VFR flightplan when starting, but normally changing flightplan before landing.

 

I would like to use a "download service" from Aerosoft, let's say I would like to buy whole countries like Germany, Switzerland, Austria, Italy etc. on an USB stick.

No matter what it costs. I don't have (too) much money, but depending on the price I would vary the time until I buy the next country.
I hope you understand what I mean.

 

 

You might see some more details when looking behind you, but just keep your buffer large enough and all will be fine. I took two circuits over Manhattan to buffer it all and then went sightseeing. Believe me, no current add-on comes close.

 

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42 minutes ago, RandyGiles said:

You mention only two boxed versions?

 

Which 2 out of the 3 digital versions will be available as physical releases? I'm assuming standard and premium deluxe edition?

 

I'm also guessing that the box will contain a code to redeem in the msft store so you end up owning the digital copy but have the choice of either downloading the game from the store or using the discs? This is how the Halo Wars 2 physical PC version was handled.

 

Yes that is how it works. I am not able to say which two version will be on disk, but if you installed from DVD you will NOT have to download the same files again. So the option to download the exact same files again would be rather silly.

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vor 4 Stunden , Mathijs Kok sagte:

 

You might see some more details when looking behind you, but just keep your buffer large enough and all will be fine. I took two circuits over Manhattan to buffer it all and then went sightseeing.

Sorry, but I suppose you did not understand what I mean / what I want.


I dream the dream of flying.

But flying in real life is much too expensive, takes too much time (if you live in Europe and want to fly in Northern and Southern America or Africa or Asia) and I want to be independant from real weather.
In other words: I love to fly VFR and normally I _plan_ to discover and enjoy for example the region between Munich and Stuttgart, but finally I land in Cologne or Frankfurt or Leipzig or Berlin or Paris or Innsbruck or Madrid or Lisbon or . . .
So I am convinced that buffering is not practicable for me.


Since years I am hoping to have Germany (and other regions of the world) in the quality of Austria Professional HD.
And I'm bored from wasting so much time of my life with (pre)downloading the sceneries, while my internet connection is limited to 5 Mbps.
So what _I_ want is to order whole Germany, whole Switzerland, whole Italy and other regions from Aerosoft, then AS will send me a Micro-SD-card (e.g.), I put this Micro-SD-card in my PC or Notebook and start flying.
(Okay, I wouldn't have a problem with copying the files first to the internal PC drive and make the registration in the scenery library first.)


No abo, no MS account, no internet connection, no waste of time for downloading, no waste of ressources by streaming all the time. Just be independant.
So I see a chance for Aerosoft to offer this service and to earn money with this service.
Just check the conditions with MS and give it a try. You can't loose anything by doing this.

 

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6 hours ago, Mathijs Kok said:

Please allow me a personal comment I have been cropping up for close to a year.

 

We learned about the new sim at the same time as everybody else. It is utterly incredible Microsoft and Asobo managed to keep this such a secret for over two years. But very soon after the first announcement was done we were called by Microsoft to see if we had any interest in working with them. Uhhhh.... yeah! 

 

Thank you, Mathijs, for the nice and open report, and for your engagement. I have been an MSFS alpha tester from quite early on, and without going into any detail I can say I fully share your enthusiasm.

 

Kind regards, Michael

  

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8 hours ago, John Kunde said:

No abo, no MS account, no internet connection, no waste of time for downloading, no waste of ressources by streaming all the time. Just be independant.
So I see a chance for Aerosoft to offer this service and to earn money with this service.
Just check the conditions with MS and give it a try. You can't loose anything by doing this.

 

Absolutely not possible and we most certainly do not plan anything like that. Sorry.

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While we are not willing to share all our plans for MFS products, the Twin Otter will most certainly be one of the six product we have currently scheduled, some of those are already deep in development.

 

Btw, I know a lot of people thought that the Airbus 320 that is a default aircraft in the simulator was one of ours. This is incorrect, we had nothing to do with that. We enjoyed the rumors though!

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Good morning Mr Kok,

just for better understanding.

The version that I found in the Aerosoft website for 129,99€ is already the box version? 
thank you very muck for your help.

Lorenzo

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So I was right, it was the standard and premium deluxe edition :P

 

Just placed my order for the premium deluxe, can't wait.

 

I'll still install it from the MSFT store via gamepass as I can then pre load the game and just use the code in the box to unlock the extra premium deluxe content.

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17 hours ago, Mathijs Kok said:

 

No,  let me explain what the boxed version actually contains. Microsoft Flight SImulator (that's the name, not FS2020) contains four major parts (Note the sizes are estimates from what we know at this moment.)

  1. The simulator code itself (the 'sim') that is pretty small in size, this is a mandatory part of the sim.
  2. The world and aircraft delivered by Microsoft, (that content depends on the version (the 'content') that is around 90 GB, this is a mandatory part of the sim.
  3. Optional online streamed content (this is an optional part of the sim)
  4. 3rd party files (clearly fully optional)

Our DVD's contains 'all' of part 2, apart from the updates Microsoft and Asobo do between the moment the the DVD's are pressed and release. When you install, the sim will updates all files immediately form the servers and you will get the very latest code for the simulator itself and all content is updated. This is very much a simulator that depends on the cloud if you want to use it to its full potential. So the boxed version makes it possible for people on a slower internet connection to get the sim installed without downloading the 'content'.  So the simulator is in every way, 100% the same. The boxed retail version just gets you a nice box, printed manual and about 90 Gb you do not have to download. There is no difference between boxed retail and the verison MS sells directly. 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Mathijs,

 

only 15 mb code???  is it mistake?

 

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Sorry it is indeed more, not sure how large, but f you remove all scenery and objects and see just the core sim it will still be relatively small.

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