Martin_CaronStudios 8 Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 Hello CRJ pilots! I'm currently working on implementing the CRJ controls for the open-source MSFS Mobile Companion App and I would like to hear your thoughts on which CRJ controls/switches/buttons you would like to see in the app. My plan is to have the following panels in the app: FCU Panel left of the PFD NAV frequency tuning COM frequency tuning Lights, anti/de-ice switches and toggle HUD The goal is to have controls which are essential during the flight so that you don't have to move the cockpit camera to activate the switch with your mouse. I'm not planning on doing switches that you activate during start-up, taxiing or shut-down. I also won't be implementing the MCDU buttons because it would only make sense if I could simulate the full MCDU display as well - buttons alone don't make that much sense from the cost/benefit point of view. Once I know how to have the display in the app as well, I'll make the full MCDU. Please let me know if I missed some essential controls that would be beneficial to have on a mobile device. Thanks a lot! Martin Mod Edit: Emphasized project target at Martin's request Link to comment https://forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?/topic/162266-which-controls-for-the-crj-would-you-like-to-see-in-the-mobile-companion-app-feedback-request/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreightDawg 5 Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 Definitely the CDU Link to comment https://forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?/topic/162266-which-controls-for-the-crj-would-you-like-to-see-in-the-mobile-companion-app-feedback-request/#findComment-1032907 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deputy Sheriffs Herman 1599 Posted April 1, 2021 Deputy Sheriffs Share Posted April 1, 2021 9 hours ago, FreightDawg said: Definitely the CDU Are you aware there's already an excellent CDU available for tablets? I strongly suggest taking a look at this one, which is well regarded even by Hans Hartmann, lead developer on the CRJ. $15 / €10 and you can fly with it today. Great support too. Link to comment https://forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?/topic/162266-which-controls-for-the-crj-would-you-like-to-see-in-the-mobile-companion-app-feedback-request/#findComment-1032920 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin_CaronStudios 8 Posted April 1, 2021 Author Share Posted April 1, 2021 I'd love to do a full CDU like the aviaCDU, but for now, as a an open-source past-time project, I'm working on switches and buttons only without simulating displays (except for NAV/COM tuning obviously). Link to comment https://forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?/topic/162266-which-controls-for-the-crj-would-you-like-to-see-in-the-mobile-companion-app-feedback-request/#findComment-1032927 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deputy Sheriffs Herman 1599 Posted April 1, 2021 Deputy Sheriffs Share Posted April 1, 2021 There may be some, like FreightDog, who will jump on the CDU, probably everybody's first choice, instead of catching the reference in your first post about switches and buttons. That's why I quoted him. Maybe an underline or bold text there could help clarify your design goal. Best wishes on your project. Link to comment https://forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?/topic/162266-which-controls-for-the-crj-would-you-like-to-see-in-the-mobile-companion-app-feedback-request/#findComment-1032933 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin_CaronStudios 8 Posted April 1, 2021 Author Share Posted April 1, 2021 Thanks for the tip! Unfortunately, I somehow can't edit the first post. Anyway, if you think I've missed some buttons/switches then please let me know. Link to comment https://forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?/topic/162266-which-controls-for-the-crj-would-you-like-to-see-in-the-mobile-companion-app-feedback-request/#findComment-1032937 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreightDawg 5 Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 8 hours ago, Herman said: Are you aware there's already an excellent CDU available for tablets? I suggest taking a look at this one, which is well regarded even by Hans Hartmann, lead developer on the CRJ. $15 / €10 and you can fly with it today. Great support too. Thx Herman i have all their PMDG cdu’ wasnt aware they had a crj i’ll be getting it thx for the tip Link to comment https://forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?/topic/162266-which-controls-for-the-crj-would-you-like-to-see-in-the-mobile-companion-app-feedback-request/#findComment-1033053 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighFlyer51 34 Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 For me, as you have already mentioned, these would be great Panel left of the PFD NAV frequency tuning COM frequency tuning I have already mapped all FCU and lights to hardware switches and for CPU, I am already using the aviaCDU. Link to comment https://forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?/topic/162266-which-controls-for-the-crj-would-you-like-to-see-in-the-mobile-companion-app-feedback-request/#findComment-1033137 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin_CaronStudios 8 Posted April 2, 2021 Author Share Posted April 2, 2021 Thanks for the tip @HighFlyer51! That's what I'm planning to do, plus the FCU and lights of course. I've already started working on it. The biggest issue so far seems to be with NAV controls, but I'll find a way to have them in the app. Link to comment https://forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?/topic/162266-which-controls-for-the-crj-would-you-like-to-see-in-the-mobile-companion-app-feedback-request/#findComment-1033384 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighFlyer51 34 Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 You need to access the LVARs in order to address most functions. Maybe this project can help you GitHub - theomessin/jetbridge: Microsoft Flight Simulator module to allow out-of-process SimConnect clients to access MSFS inner workings as if they were in-process. Also, there is a lot of discussion about LVAR access here: Demo: LVAR write access for any aircraft control - SDK Discussion / SimConnect - Microsoft Flight Simulator Forums Link to comment https://forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?/topic/162266-which-controls-for-the-crj-would-you-like-to-see-in-the-mobile-companion-app-feedback-request/#findComment-1033395 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin_CaronStudios 8 Posted April 2, 2021 Author Share Posted April 2, 2021 Thanks for the links! I'm using Mobiflight's WASM Lvar module to access Lvars which works great and is easy to use. The problem with NAV frequencies is that there isn't a direct Lvar for tuning and standard SimConnect events don't work (COMs work fine though). There are Lvars for the radio panel buttons and the knob, but there doesn't seem to be a specific Lvar that shows which button is active. And that's the biggest issue. I think I can get around it by using dummy Lvars, but I only want to do it this way if nothing else works. I'll do some more testing and see if I can come up with something better. Link to comment https://forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?/topic/162266-which-controls-for-the-crj-would-you-like-to-see-in-the-mobile-companion-app-feedback-request/#findComment-1033421 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaxterium 119 Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 When you guys mention FCU, what are you referring to? Unless you're talking about a Fuel Control Unit (which I doubt is the case) then the CRJ doesn't have an FCU. It's not an acronym we use. Are you referring to the MCP (Mode Control Panel)? This may seem pedantic so I apologize. It's not my intention. Link to comment https://forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?/topic/162266-which-controls-for-the-crj-would-you-like-to-see-in-the-mobile-companion-app-feedback-request/#findComment-1033446 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin_CaronStudios 8 Posted April 3, 2021 Author Share Posted April 3, 2021 3 hours ago, Chaxterium said: When you guys mention FCU, what are you referring to? Unless you're talking about a Fuel Control Unit (which I doubt is the case) then the CRJ doesn't have an FCU. It's not an acronym we use. Are you referring to the MCP (Mode Control Panel)? This may seem pedantic so I apologize. It's not my intention. The FCU stands for Flight Control Unit. It's the panel with autopilot controls in the middle of the cockpit. Link to comment https://forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?/topic/162266-which-controls-for-the-crj-would-you-like-to-see-in-the-mobile-companion-app-feedback-request/#findComment-1033464 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighFlyer51 34 Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 @Chaxterium You are correct - in CRJ terms, the FCU is actually the Fuel Control Unit. The correct term for the CRJ should actually be FCP - Flight Control Panel. Link to comment https://forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?/topic/162266-which-controls-for-the-crj-would-you-like-to-see-in-the-mobile-companion-app-feedback-request/#findComment-1033484 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaxterium 119 Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 Sounds good. I'm excited to see what you come up with. At this point I would give anything to have a way to quickly change the altitude without having to change camera views. Link to comment https://forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?/topic/162266-which-controls-for-the-crj-would-you-like-to-see-in-the-mobile-companion-app-feedback-request/#findComment-1033520 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helibrewer 0 Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 On 4/1/2021 at 12:48 PM, Herman said: Are you aware there's already an excellent CDU available for tablets? I strongly suggest taking a look at this one, which is well regarded even by Hans Hartmann, lead developer on the CRJ. $15 / €10 and you can fly with it today. Great support too. I would love to use this but it doesn't appear to work with MSFS. Link to comment https://forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?/topic/162266-which-controls-for-the-crj-would-you-like-to-see-in-the-mobile-companion-app-feedback-request/#findComment-1033528 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaxterium 119 Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 25 minutes ago, Helibrewer said: I would love to use this but it doesn't appear to work with MSFS. I was actually planning on purchasing this today. Are you sure it doesn't work with MSFS? It mentions that it works not only with MSFS but specifically the Aerosoft CRJ. Cheers, Troy Please login to display this image. Link to comment https://forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?/topic/162266-which-controls-for-the-crj-would-you-like-to-see-in-the-mobile-companion-app-feedback-request/#findComment-1033535 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helibrewer 0 Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 22 minutes ago, Chaxterium said: I was actually planning on purchasing this today. Are you sure it doesn't work with MSFS? It mentions that it works not only with MSFS but specifically the Aerosoft CRJ. Cheers, Troy Please login to display this image. This was my error....there are 2 executables and I missed the aviaServer_FS2020 executable...I apologize Link to comment https://forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?/topic/162266-which-controls-for-the-crj-would-you-like-to-see-in-the-mobile-companion-app-feedback-request/#findComment-1033539 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaxterium 119 Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 17 minutes ago, Helibrewer said: This was my error....there are 2 executables and I missed the aviaServer_FS2020 executable...I apologize No worries. So it works then? Are you happy with it? I'm excited to try it later today. I love everything about the Aerosoft CRJ (well almost everything) but using the mouse to enter data into the FMS is a pain (I understand it's the case with all the other aircraft too) so I'm excited to have a better way. Link to comment https://forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?/topic/162266-which-controls-for-the-crj-would-you-like-to-see-in-the-mobile-companion-app-feedback-request/#findComment-1033550 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helibrewer 0 Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 Just getting it going now....you do have to purchase a license for the CDU also...it is $10USD, waiting for that in my email, otherwise the CDU is "view-only" Link to comment https://forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?/topic/162266-which-controls-for-the-crj-would-you-like-to-see-in-the-mobile-companion-app-feedback-request/#findComment-1033552 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighFlyer51 34 Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 I have the aviaCDU running with MSFS 2020 and the CRJ. It works great. Link to comment https://forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?/topic/162266-which-controls-for-the-crj-would-you-like-to-see-in-the-mobile-companion-app-feedback-request/#findComment-1033570 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin_CaronStudios 8 Posted April 3, 2021 Author Share Posted April 3, 2021 10 hours ago, HighFlyer51 said: @Chaxterium You are correct - in CRJ terms, the FCU is actually the Fuel Control Unit. The correct term for the CRJ should actually be FCP - Flight Control Panel. Thanks for the clarification! I wasn't aware of this. Link to comment https://forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?/topic/162266-which-controls-for-the-crj-would-you-like-to-see-in-the-mobile-companion-app-feedback-request/#findComment-1033658 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deputy Sheriffs Herman 1599 Posted June 8, 2021 Deputy Sheriffs Share Posted June 8, 2021 No response in over a month. Because we believe this topic has been answered we have closed it. If you have any more questions feel free to open a new topic. Link to comment https://forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?/topic/162266-which-controls-for-the-crj-would-you-like-to-see-in-the-mobile-companion-app-feedback-request/#findComment-1045352 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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