Deputy Sheriffs mopperle 4162 Posted August 25, 2020 Deputy Sheriffs Share Posted August 25, 2020 IMHO there are only 2 reasons: - being a collector - having a very low bandwith and/or no flatrate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryMcCl 17 Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, mopperle said: IMHO there are only 2 reasons: - being a collector - having a very low bandwith and/or no flatrate - I can understand you would want to have the disks if you were a collector - I''m not sure why having a low bandwith and/or no flatrate would be bad (except for the initial download). is that right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryMcCl 17 Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 It's much cheaper here (I'm not recommending it - I don't know what this company is like, but it could be good): https://www.shopto.net/en/dwnld58113-microsoft-flight-simulator-premium-deluxe-edition-p431152/?currency=GBP&gclid=CjwKCAjwyo36BRAXEiwA24CwGZXep8bPorQXfGGLWT05wQUUcEI33e9RJQSHI73w6-r9_20nrY2Y3RoCg4YQAvD_BwE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deputy Sheriffs mopperle 4162 Posted August 25, 2020 Deputy Sheriffs Share Posted August 25, 2020 29 minutes ago, GaryMcCl said: - I can understand you would want to have the disks if you were a collector - I''m not sure why having a low bandwith and/or no flatrate would be bad (except for the initial download). is that right? I remember a user beeing limited to 60GB/month and the initial download is around 120GB, so the DVD makes sense in such a case. But anyway, for the future having a flatrate is a good idea, when MS decides to deliver a major update with lets say 50GB and you already consumed your limit due to streaming and other downloads. I remember that for those people there is a workaround, but dont ask me how it looks like. I have flatrate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m74 0 Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 On 8/23/2020 at 12:16 PM, Starlord9991967 said: I created a post/guide as to how I did this. https://forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?/topic/155508-create-an-iso-of-dvd-disk-1-so-you-dont-have-to-have-it-inserted-every-time/ HTH Thanks for this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryMcCl 17 Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 3 hours ago, mopperle said: I remember a user beeing limited to 60GB/month and the initial download is around 120GB, so the DVD makes sense in such a case. But anyway, for the future having a flatrate is a good idea, when MS decides to deliver a major update with lets say 50GB and you already consumed your limit due to streaming and other downloads. I remember that for those people there is a workaround, but dont ask me how it looks like. I have flatrate I'm not sure what you're saying... I have a 2TB hard drive that I keep my installs on, and a 2TB SSD for running games or simulators. That is all seperate to the 500Gb SSD for the C-Drive (loading Windows). All of this is local - and looking at the internet, it says that I don't even need anything near 1TB. Do you think there is a problem? I often get things wrong when someone has given me advice. Gaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerosoft BenBaron 287 Posted August 25, 2020 Aerosoft Share Posted August 25, 2020 vor 4 Stunden , GaryMcCl sagte: I'm not sure what you're saying... I have a 2TB hard drive that I keep my installs on, and a 2TB SSD for running games or simulators. That is all seperate to the 500Gb SSD for the C-Drive (loading Windows). All of this is local - and looking at the internet, it says that I don't even need anything near 1TB. Do you think there is a problem? I often get things wrong when someone has given me advice. Gaz No problem there Gaz, you are talking hard drive requirements while mopperle is talking download bandwidth and data consumption, so two different things. It is of course preferable to have unlimited data usage for your internet, as MSFS online data consumption might get pretty huge at times due to constant scenery streaming or patches and new content being published. Your hard drive space is perfectly fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryMcCl 17 Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 43 minutes ago, BenBaron said: Your hard drive space is perfectly fine. Thanks @BenBaron and @mopperle Some of my pc specs are as follows. Is it sufficient? CPU: Intel(R) Core™ i7-8086K - 6-Core 4.00GHz, 5.00GHz Turbo - 12MB Cache + UHD Graphics *** Extreme OC *** [+96] EXCD: None Selected FLASHMEDIA: 6 in 1 Card Reader - Supports SD/Mini SD/SDHC/SDXC/MMC/RSMMC Card HDD: 2TB Seagate BarraCuda 5400RPM SATA III Hard Drive [+26] (1 Drive) M2SSD: 500GB (1x500GB) WD Black M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD - 3400MB/s Read & 2500MB/s Write [+71] (Single Drive) MEMORY: 32GB (16GBx2) DDR4/2400Mhz SODIMM Memory [+36] (Corsair Vengeance MOTHERBOARD: Intel Z370 Chipset Motherboard NETWORK: Gigabit LAN Supports 10/100/1000 Mb/Sec SOUND: Built in HD audio SPEAKERS: Built in 2x 2W Onkyo Speakers USB: Built in 3x USB 3.0 Ports, 2x USB 3.1 Ports, 1x USB 2.0 Ports VIDEO: NVIDIA(R) GeForce(R) GTX 1070 8GB Video Card - 1518 MHz OC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deputy Sheriffs mopperle 4162 Posted August 26, 2020 Deputy Sheriffs Share Posted August 26, 2020 Looks very good. But remember: the more complex and demanding addon you might install, the closer you come to the limits. There is no difference to P3D or other simulators. There is simply no hardware that allows highest settings with tons of complex/demanding addons in parallel. For me personnally at the momemt it looks like this: - flying low and slow (VFR) -> MSFS - flying IFR with airliners -> P3D (mainly because of missing highend aircraft like the Airbus) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryMcCl 17 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 @mopperle - I'm not usually able to say this, but I appreciate your help with this. Given what you said, I may stick with P3D, and only switch when some bugs are fixed and there are some larger airliners added. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerosoft Aerosoft Team [Inactive Account] 51558 Posted August 27, 2020 Aerosoft Share Posted August 27, 2020 On 8/25/2020 at 1:51 PM, GaryMcCl said: Thanks! Do you know if there is a reason for me to get the DVDs, since I don't have a DVD drive? Also, how big would the download be (I'll look this bit up as it should be on the online shop)? No the steam/MS Store version is exactly the same after it has been installed. In totaL i should count on 100GB download in the first month. That includes the sim, updates and chached data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crashlander 0 Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 I live in Africa. I have an "unlimited" package which throttles at 40GB. While the 40GB is live, I get a max of 3Mbs and after that about 50kbs!! Hence my need for the dvd version if I am to run this thing at all. Should I install to H:\ (on my SSD) or create a directory e.g. H:\MSF2020. Which would be better? Noel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deputy Sheriffs mopperle 4162 Posted August 28, 2020 Deputy Sheriffs Share Posted August 28, 2020 Noel, Aerosoft is not allowed to ship outside Europe. And even if you find a way around, with a 40GB Package you want be happy. It is very likely, that, after installing the DVD, you might need to download an update that hits your limit, especially as this limit applies to all you internet activity in total. So maybe you provider offers a better package. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crashlander 0 Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 Mopperle, I have the DVD so I hope it will run ok outside of Europe. I hadn't realised there might be any restrictions or that there might still be a requirement to download very large files. I assumed I would be able to run in offline mode, albeit with scaled down graphics. I will talk to my service provider, although I know the next products are aimed at business and carry a business size price tag! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Feuerstacke 1 Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 Is it just me, or has it been patched because I did a new installation last night and this time didn't download it from DVD but simply downloaded it completely from the Internet, there is no (!) check to "insert disk 1" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptBrodi 0 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 vor 10 Stunden , Frank Feuerstacke sagte: Is it just me, or has it been patched because I did a new installation last night and this time didn't download it from DVD but simply downloaded it completely from the Internet, there is no (!) check to "insert disk 1" Interesting. Since I'll be doing a reinstallation shortly, I'd like to try that too. Can you describe how you did it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulBaeumer 7 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 vor 4 Minuten, CaptBrodi sagte: Interesting. Since I'll be doing a reinstallation shortly, I'd like to try that too. Can you describe how you did it? Instead of installing from DVDs you simply install it from the Store. The game will then not find any previously installed game files and thus download everything from the internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDM 0 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 I bought the boxed version of 10 DVDs. For easy installation, I copied all 10 DVD to a 128 GB Flash Drive - over 5 hour job and well worth it as I had to do 2 separate installations. I wanted to test MSFS on an old high end Laptop for FSX but when I started it up. I got a CTD just before I got to the Welcome Screen. I tried a few more times but I easily recognised that my Laptop was not able for the job. So, I did another installatiom to my brand new top of the range Gaming Desktop machine and everything went perfectly, except that I noticed that I was not asked to place DVD No1 in my DVD Drive, My new Desktop came with no DVD Drive but I had bought a cheap one just in case. So, I decided to copy Disk No 1 to a much smaller Flash Drive and popped it into a spare USB port at rear of my Desktop and everything woks perfectly. So, fellow Simmers, by accident I came across a simple solution to Microsoft's silly requirement for DVD No 1 being required permanently in a DVD Drive, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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