Tyrion 72 Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 Here's the score spreadsheet. Lars Domen piloting CS CS_C130 2 ended 11 April, 2011 at 18:41 Aircraft: Hercules ID: CH-07 Airline: BAC Flight: 07 Flight plan: EAFS TO LFPO Paris:Orly NAV1: OLW Failure(s): None at landing Failure Event(s) (Zulu Time): None Failure Bonus:0% Flight Duration:01 Hours 25 Mins 44 Secs Landing Score:132.94 Landing was successful in the following areas: * Good alignment with runway on ILS approach. [70%] * Gentle touchdown. [233 FPM] * Good landing speed - not too fast. [85 KIAS] * Wings were level. * Landed on runway surface. * Glideslope held until flare. * Good pitch control after touchdown. * Good pitch at landing. * With flaps - good job. * Heading aligned with runway. * Throttle(s) idle. * Good controlled final descent to touchdown. * Good steering after landing. * Nicely handled crosswind. Landing included the following problems: * Poor glideslope on ILS approach - you can do better. [10%] * Without spoilers armed - arm them before landing. Definite room for improvement... Flight Score:143.74 Flight commended in the following areas: * Smooth turns. * Nice banking. * Correct matching of flaps to speeds. * Gear deployment at safe speed. * Comfortable G forces. * Smooth pitch control. * Flown within aircraft's maximum speed limit. * Gentle taxi turns. * Good take off steering. * Rotation was not late. * Appropriate position of flaps during taxi. * Safe taxi speed. * Smooth braking during taxi. * Smooth climb during takeoff. * Wings level near ground. * Well coordinated turns. * No stalls. * No flying dangerously close to stall speed. * Smooth comfortable descent rate. * Pitch not too high. * Pitch not too low. * Flaps down on time. * Approach speed not too fast. * Good clearance of obstacles. Flight included the following problems: * Excessive speed at low altitude - several complaints have been filed. Definite room for improvement... Last aircraft was flown using data estimated by FSFlyingSchool. If you wish to make changes to these values, go to the Aircraft Page and click User Specified Data. Make your changes and then click the Save User Data button. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrion 72 Posted April 11, 2011 Author Share Posted April 11, 2011 leg 2: if I'd remembered to turn OFF the autopilot BEFORE switching to landing mode, it would've been an awesome score for this flight... log: Lars Domen piloting RealAir Beech Duke DIESG Winglets ended 11 April, 2011 at 22:15 Aircraft: Beech ID: DIESG Airline: Flight: Flight plan: LFPO TO EGLC London:London City NAV1: ILSR Failure(s): None at landing Failure Event(s) (Zulu Time): None Failure Bonus:0% Flight Duration:01 Hours 18 Mins 20 Secs Landing Score:57.71 Autopilot used. Landing was successful in the following areas: * Good glideslope on ILS approach. [80%] * Good alignment with runway on ILS approach. [100%] * Gentle touchdown. [233 FPM] * Good landing speed - not too fast. [57 KIAS] * Wings were level. * Landed on runway surface. * Glideslope held until flare. * Good pitch control after touchdown. * Good pitch at landing. * With flaps - good job. * Heading aligned with runway. * Throttle(s) idle. * Good controlled final descent to touchdown. * Good steering after landing. A splendid landing! Flight Score:71.57 Autopilot used. Flight commended in the following areas: * Smooth turns. * Nice banking. * Correct matching of flaps to speeds. * Gear deployment at safe speed. * Comfortable G forces. * Smooth pitch control. * Flown within aircraft's maximum speed limit. * Gentle taxi turns. * Good take off steering. * Rotation was not late. * Appropriate position of flaps during taxi. * Safe taxi speed. * Smooth braking during taxi. * Smooth climb during takeoff. * Wings level near ground. * Well coordinated turns. * No stalls. * No flying dangerously close to stall speed. * Smooth comfortable descent rate. * Pitch not too high. * Pitch not too low. * Flaps down on time. * Approach speed not too fast. * Good clearance of obstacles. Flight included the following problems: * Braking during takeoff - watch those feet. * Excessive speed at low altitude - several complaints have been filed. Definite room for improvement... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrion 72 Posted April 12, 2011 Author Share Posted April 12, 2011 Lars Domen piloting CS CS_C130 2 ended 12 April, 2011 at 15:41 Aircraft: Hercules ID: CH-07 Airline: BAC Flight: 07 Flight plan: EGLC TO ELLX Luxembourg:Luxembourg NAV1: Failure(s): None at landing Failure Event(s) (Zulu Time): None Failure Bonus:0% Flight Duration:01 Hours 00 Mins 25 Secs Landing Score:123.64 Landing was successful in the following areas: * Good glideslope on visual approach. [60%] * Good alignment with runway on visual approach. [80%] * Gentle touchdown. [279 FPM] * Good landing speed - not too fast. [68 KIAS] * Wings were level. * Distance from runway threshold (visual approach): [2099 feet] * Landed on runway surface. * Glideslope held until flare. * Good pitch control after touchdown. * Good pitch at landing. * With flaps - good job. * Heading aligned with runway. * Throttle(s) idle. * Good controlled final descent to touchdown. Landing included the following problems: * Poor steering after landing - stay on the centre line. Definite room for improvement... Flight Score:130.22 Flight commended in the following areas: * Smooth turns. * Nice banking. * Correct matching of flaps to speeds. * Gear deployment at safe speed. * Comfortable G forces. * Smooth pitch control. * Flown within aircraft's maximum speed limit. * Good take off steering. * Rotation was not late. * Appropriate position of flaps during taxi. * Safe taxi speed. * Smooth braking during taxi. * Smooth climb during takeoff. * Wings level near ground. * Well coordinated turns. * Smooth comfortable descent rate. * Pitch not too high. * Pitch not too low. * Flaps down on time. * Approach speed not too fast. * Good clearance of obstacles. Flight included the following problems: * Dangerous taxiing turns - these cause discomfort and stress. * Dangerous stalls - don't let that happen again. * Excessive speed at low altitude - several complaints have been filed. Definite room for improvement... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrion 72 Posted April 15, 2011 Author Share Posted April 15, 2011 I still don't like the DC-3 (in FS that is) but I did find out what caused my engine problems: overheating carburetors... anyway, that's off the table, but still, no fan of any FSX DC-3... And I still can't get him to accept my speeds at low altitude... I mean, I either get the note about flying to fast, or I stall... I NEVER, during the entire flight, NEVER flew faster than 150kts, which is slower than the gear extension speed, slower than the max flap speed for the first notch of flaps... he's really getting in my hear about that 'too fast at low altitude stuff... Lars Domen piloting Douglas DC-3 United ended 15 April, 2011 at 20:24 Aircraft: Douglas ID: Airline: Flight: Flight plan: ELLX TO EHLE Lelystad:Lelystad NAV1: VKL Failure(s): None at landing Failure Event(s) (Zulu Time): None Failure Bonus:0% Flight Duration:01 Hours 13 Mins 36 Secs Landing Score:97.45 Landing was successful in the following areas: * Good alignment with runway on visual approach. [90%] * Gentle touchdown. [141 FPM] * Good landing speed - not too fast. [68 KIAS] * Wings were level. * Distance from runway threshold (visual approach): [850 feet] * Landed on runway surface. * Glideslope held until flare. * Good pitch control after touchdown. * Good pitch at landing. * With flaps - good job. * Heading aligned with runway. * Throttle(s) idle. * Good steering after landing. Landing included the following problems: * Poor glideslope on visual approach - you can do better. [40%] * Ballooning during landing - needs practice. Definite room for improvement... Flight Score:122.96 Flight commended in the following areas: * Nice banking. * Correct matching of flaps to speeds. * Gear deployment at safe speed. * Comfortable G forces. * Smooth pitch control. * Flown within aircraft's maximum speed limit. * Gentle taxi turns. * Good take off steering. * Rotation was not late. * Appropriate position of flaps during taxi. * Safe taxi speed. * Smooth braking during taxi. * Smooth climb during takeoff. * Wings level near ground. * Well coordinated turns. * No stalls. * No flying dangerously close to stall speed. * Smooth comfortable descent rate. * Pitch not too high. * Pitch not too low. * Approach speed not too fast. * Good clearance of obstacles. Flight included the following problems: * Rough turns - your passengers spilt their drinks and have a pain in their necks. * Flaps not down on time - plan your landing next time. * Excessive speed at low altitude - several complaints have been filed. Definite room for improvement... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OleAndreasen 88 Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 I still don't like the DC-3 (in FS that is) but I did find out what caused my engine problems: overheating carburetors... anyway, that's off the table, but still, no fan of any FSX DC-3... And I still can't get him to accept my speeds at low altitude... I mean, I either get the note about flying to fast, or I stall... I NEVER, during the entire flight, NEVER flew faster than 150kts, which is slower than the gear extension speed, slower than the max flap speed for the first notch of flaps... he's really getting in my hear about that 'too fast at low altitude stuff... * Excessive speed at low altitude - several complaints have been filed. Definite room for improvement... Lars... Ill check with the developers on that problem. We gotta have him shut up about that. Is it regardless of aircraft and location? Ole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrion 72 Posted April 15, 2011 Author Share Posted April 15, 2011 Lars... Ill check with the developers on that problem. We gotta have him shut up about that. Is it regardless of aircraft and location? Ole yep, had it happen in several places, and in 3 aircraft until now (haven't flown my 737 yet...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrion 72 Posted April 15, 2011 Author Share Posted April 15, 2011 Ok; apart from the 'we have a problem' nagging, a good flight! No too fast remarks or anything, so I'll see if waiting a little before going to cruise really solves it. The only remark during the entire flight, (loosing the glide slope before touchdown) is also disputable, because the only time I lost it was when I started the flare... maybe a little sooner than Smith wanted, but a (loaded, btw) C-130 isn't a Cessna, you know. Anyway, here's the log: Lars Domen piloting CS CS_C130 2 ended 15 April, 2011 at 22:14 Aircraft: Hercules ID: CH-07 Airline: BAC Flight: 07 Flight plan: EHLE TO EDDT Berlin:Tegel NAV1: ITLE Failure(s): None at landing Failure Event(s) (Zulu Time): None Failure Bonus:0% Flight Duration:01 Hours 03 Mins 49 Secs Landing Score:120.75 Landing was successful in the following areas: * Good glideslope on ILS approach. [100%] * Good alignment with runway on ILS approach. [100%] * Gentle touchdown. [217 FPM] * Good landing speed - not too fast. [88 KIAS] * Wings were level. * Landed on runway surface. * Good pitch control after touchdown. * Good pitch at landing. * With flaps - good job. * Heading aligned with runway. * Throttle(s) idle. * Good controlled final descent to touchdown. * Good steering after landing. Landing included the following problems: * Glideslope lost before you touched down - not your best effort. Definite room for improvement... Flight Score:147.42 Flight commended in the following areas: * Smooth turns. * Nice banking. * Correct matching of flaps to speeds. * Gear deployment at safe speed. * Comfortable G forces. * Smooth pitch control. * Flown within aircraft's maximum speed limit. * Gentle taxi turns. * Good take off steering. * Rotation was not late. * Appropriate position of flaps during taxi. * Safe taxi speed. * Smooth braking during taxi. * Smooth climb during takeoff. * Wings level near ground. * Well coordinated turns. * No stalls. * No flying dangerously close to stall speed. * Smooth comfortable descent rate. * Pitch not too high. * Pitch not too low. * Flaps down on time. * Approach speed not too fast. * Low altitude speeds not too fast. * Good clearance of obstacles. A smooth flight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OleAndreasen 88 Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 Landing Score:120.75 - Flight Score:147.42 Lars..... You are pulling some serious scores here. Whoa... . Congratulations! Why on earth haven´t you used FSFlyingSchool a long time ago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrion 72 Posted April 16, 2011 Author Share Posted April 16, 2011 Lars..... You are pulling some serious scores here. Whoa... . Congratulations! Why on earth haven´t you used FSFlyingSchool a long time ago? Thanks Ole! Why? Well, obviously because I don't need it! lol! Nah, just kidding here... I never wanted to invest money is an addon like that, but when you get used to it, it is something nice and helpful I know now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrion 72 Posted April 16, 2011 Author Share Posted April 16, 2011 Lars Domen piloting CS CS_C130 2 ended 16 April, 2011 at 17:38 Aircraft: Hercules ID: CH-07 Airline: BAC Flight: 07 Flight plan: EDDT TO ENGM Oslo:Gardermoen NAV1: ONE Failure(s): None at landing Failure Event(s) (Zulu Time): None Failure Bonus:0% Flight Duration:01 Hours 46 Mins 27 Secs Landing Score:134.90 Landing was successful in the following areas: * Good glideslope on ILS approach. [80%] * Good alignment with runway on ILS approach. [100%] * Gentle touchdown. [174 FPM] * Good landing speed - not too fast. [89 KIAS] * Wings were level. * Landed on runway surface. * Good pitch control after touchdown. * Good pitch at landing. * With flaps - good job. * Heading aligned with runway. * Throttle(s) idle. * Good controlled final descent to touchdown. * Nicely handled crosswind. Landing included the following problems: * Glideslope lost before you touched down - not your best effort. * Poor steering after landing - stay on the centre line. Definite room for improvement... Flight Score:141.98 Flight commended in the following areas: * Smooth turns. * Correct matching of flaps to speeds. * Gear deployment at safe speed. * Comfortable G forces. * Smooth pitch control. * Flown within aircraft's maximum speed limit. * Good take off steering. * Rotation was not late. * Appropriate position of flaps during taxi. * Safe taxi speed. * Smooth braking during taxi. * Smooth climb during takeoff. * Wings level near ground. * Well coordinated turns. * No stalls. * No flying dangerously close to stall speed. * Smooth comfortable descent rate. * Pitch not too high. * Pitch not too low. * Flaps down on time. * Approach speed not too fast. * Low altitude speeds not too fast. * Good clearance of obstacles. Flight included the following problems: * Steep banking - save your aerobatic flying for some other time. * Dangerous taxiing turns - these cause discomfort and stress. Definite room for improvement... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_Smith 1116 Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 Lars your going from strengh to strength Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrion 72 Posted April 16, 2011 Author Share Posted April 16, 2011 Lars your going from strengh to strength Thanks Matt. Probably because, of the 6 first legs, I did 4 with the C-130... a heavy aircraft, that I know quite well. 737, Duke, and the DC-3 are called to action from now on... Really NOT looking forward to the DC-3, but I said that before so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrion 72 Posted April 17, 2011 Author Share Posted April 17, 2011 I still don't understand the low landing score, but I'm not going to refly the leg... the initial approach might not have been that good, but all other points were (alignment, glideslope and steering after landing...) I definitely landed ON the runway, but that comment might also have been towards to initial approach... 100 points lost, but what the **** here's the log: Lars Domen piloting Boeing_737_900ER_FSX_Alaskan ended 16 April, 2011 at 21:27 FSFlyingSchool 2011 (February 25 2011) Using: FSX Visibility: 49.71 Miles Wind: 6 Knots Aircraft: BOEING AIRCRAFT ID: N737 Airline: Alaskan Flight: 332 Flight plan: ENGM TO EKVG : NAV1: Failure(s): None at landing Failure Event(s) (Zulu Time): None Failure Bonus:0% Flight Duration:01 Hours 37 Mins 12 Secs Landing Score:32.35 Landing was successful in the following areas: Gentle touchdown. [482 FPM] Good landing speed - not too fast. [114 KIAS] Wings were level. Distance from runway threshold (visual approach): [387 feet] Glideslope held until flare. Good pitch control after touchdown. Good pitch at landing. With flaps - good job. With spoilers armed. Heading aligned with runway. Throttle(s) idle. Good controlled final descent to touchdown. Landing included the following problems: Poor glideslope on visual approach - you can do better. [20%] Poor alignment with runway on visual approach - line up and stay there. [0%] Landed without a proper approach OR off runway surface. Poor steering after landing - stay on the centre line.Flight Score:137.48 Flight commended in the following areas: Smooth turns. Nice banking. Gear deployment at safe speed. Comfortable G forces. Smooth pitch control. Flown within aircraft's maximum speed limit. Gentle taxi turns. Good take off steering. Rotation was not late. Appropriate position of flaps during taxi. Safe taxi speed. Smooth braking during taxi. Smooth climb during takeoff. Wings level near ground. Well coordinated turns. No stalls. No flying dangerously close to stall speed. Pitch not too high. Pitch not too low. Flaps down on time. Approach speed not too fast. Low altitude speeds not too fast. Good clearance of obstacles. Flight included the following problems: Exceeding flap speeds - your flaps may be damaged: have them checked. Rapid descent - dangerous and uncomfortable.Definite room for improvement... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrion 72 Posted April 17, 2011 Author Share Posted April 17, 2011 the landed off runway surface problem is definitely back... second time in 2 flights... and this time it could not have been the approach, which was textbook. Lars Domen piloting RealAir Beech Duke DIESG Winglets ended 17 April, 2011 at 18:05 Aircraft: Beech ID: DIESG Airline: Flight: Flight plan: EKVG TO BIEG : NAV1: IES Failure(s): None at landing Failure Event(s) (Zulu Time): None Failure Bonus:0% Flight Duration:01 Hours 47 Mins 18 Secs Landing Score:18.84 Autopilot used. Landing was successful in the following areas: * Good glideslope on ILS approach. [80%] * Good alignment with runway on ILS approach. [60%] * Gentle touchdown. [154 FPM] * Good landing speed - not too fast. [76 KIAS] * Wings were level. * Glideslope held until flare. * Good pitch control after touchdown. * Good pitch at landing. * With flaps - good job. * Heading aligned with runway. * Throttle(s) idle. * Good controlled final descent to touchdown. Landing included the following problems: * Landed without a proper approach OR off runway surface. * Not near the centre line - you can do better. * Poor steering after landing - stay on the centre line. Definite room for improvement... Flight Score:78.00 Autopilot used. Flight commended in the following areas: * Smooth turns. * Nice banking. * Correct matching of flaps to speeds. * Gear deployment at safe speed. * Comfortable G forces. * Smooth pitch control. * Flown within aircraft's maximum speed limit. * Gentle taxi turns. * Good take off steering. * Rotation was not late. * Appropriate position of flaps during taxi. * Safe taxi speed. * Smooth braking during taxi. * Smooth climb during takeoff. * Wings level near ground. * Well coordinated turns. * No stalls. * No flying dangerously close to stall speed. * Smooth comfortable descent rate. * Pitch not too high. * Pitch not too low. * Flaps down on time. * Approach speed not too fast. * Low altitude speeds not too fast. * Good clearance of obstacles. A smooth flight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddz 737 55 Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 the landed off runway surface problem is definitely back... I had that hapeen to me landing at this airport too.And becuase of that i think i got a low score,as ''Mr Smith'' was praising me for good flying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_Smith 1116 Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 Are you guys using the defaul scenery for BIEG? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddz 737 55 Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 I am yes. No AI packages either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrion 72 Posted April 17, 2011 Author Share Posted April 17, 2011 no, I'm not, I'm using Aerosofts Iceland X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_Smith 1116 Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 OK that confuses matters a bit lol. Either of you using AI packages that might have additions AFCAD's for the airport? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OleAndreasen 88 Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 I had that hapeen to me landing at this airport too.And becuase of that i think i got a low score,as ''Mr Smith'' was praising me for good flying. what was the heading you landed at ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddz 737 55 Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 from memory 040° Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OleAndreasen 88 Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 from memory 040° OK - not what I was hoping for, I was hoping for a North/South like heading.... but never mind. Thanks anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrion 72 Posted April 18, 2011 Author Share Posted April 18, 2011 I can't take this anymore!!! Once again that stupid off runway remark!! I can't keep trying to rebuild the runway database, now can I?? I mean, I'd like to get SOME points for landing... centerline problem is related, because I was dead on the centerline for at least 4 miles, and I have screenshots... the clearance over obstacles thing is just stupid... saying I'm too high on the glideslope, but too low over the terrain in 1 sentence, although it might be right, is just ridiculous. Lars Domen piloting Douglas DC-3 United ended 18 April, 2011 at 14:05 Aircraft: Douglas ID: Airline: Flight: Flight plan: BIEG TO BIVM : NAV1: Failure(s): None at landing Failure Event(s) (Zulu Time): None Failure Bonus:0% Flight Duration:01 Hours 28 Mins 03 Secs Landing Score:36.70 Landing was successful in the following areas: * Good glideslope on visual approach. [80%] * Gentle touchdown. [33 FPM] * Good landing speed - not too fast. [75 KIAS] * Wings were level. * Distance from runway threshold (visual approach): [1363 feet] * Glideslope held until flare. * Good pitch control after touchdown. * Good pitch at landing. * With flaps - good job. * Heading aligned with runway. * Throttle(s) idle. * Good controlled final descent to touchdown. * Good steering after landing. Landing included the following problems: * Poor alignment with runway on visual approach - line up and stay there. [0%] * Landed without a proper approach OR off runway surface. Definite room for improvement... Flight Score:124.83 Flight commended in the following areas: * Smooth turns. * Nice banking. * Correct matching of flaps to speeds. * Gear deployment at safe speed. * Comfortable G forces. * Smooth pitch control. * Flown within aircraft's maximum speed limit. * Gentle taxi turns. * Good take off steering. * Rotation was not late. * Appropriate position of flaps during taxi. * Safe taxi speed. * Smooth braking during taxi. * Smooth climb during takeoff. * Wings level near ground. * Well coordinated turns. * No stalls. * No flying dangerously close to stall speed. * Smooth comfortable descent rate. * Pitch not too high. * Flaps down on time. * Approach speed not too fast. * Low altitude speeds not too fast. Flight included the following problems: * Nose held too low - we're not in combat. * Narrowly missed obstacles - plan your safety altitudes. Definite room for improvement... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManuelL 71 Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 I can't take this anymore!!! Once again that stupid off runway remark!! Hi Lars, When I had some problems with FSFS thinking my PC-12 has spoilers, I have created a "test pilot" in FSFS for myself so I can check if the program runs propperly and don't have to use the regular RTWC flights. I can only recommend this. Kind regards Manuel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OleAndreasen 88 Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 I can't take this anymore!!! Once again that stupid off runway remark!! I can't keep trying to rebuild the runway database, now can I?? I mean, I'd like to get SOME points for landing... centerline problem is related, because I was dead on the centerline for at least 4 miles, and I have screenshots... the clearance over obstacles thing is just stupid... saying I'm too high on the glideslope, but too low over the terrain in 1 sentence, although it might be right, is just ridiculous. * Landed without a proper approach OR off runway surface. Lars. There IS a small part of people who continues having problems with the "landed off runway" thing in FSFS2011. The files I uploaded (IF the Dawson file is the right one - v.1.41) has corrected it for most of the small number of people, but a few still has problems. Did you change the language layout to English (US)? Anyway. IF you land ON runway surface - and still get bummered for landing OFF runway surface, then you are allowed to add 50 points to your landing score - as this is what is withdrawn for landing off runway surface. Its NOT ideal, I know, but it will give you, (AND others having eventual similar problems) a more fair landing score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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