rjf71 0 Posted March 21, 2008 Share Posted March 21, 2008 Just wondering if anyone has had success installing CumulusX! on top of FSX Acceleration?I have:- FSX Accel on top of FSX RTM- .NET 3.0 installed (but also tried reinstalling 2.0 just in case)Don't really want to uninstall everything, then reinstall FSX RTM, SP1, Sp2, etc just to try CumulusX!On startup get:"CumulusX! 1.0 has encountered a problem and needs to close. We are sorry for the inconvenience."EventType: clr20r3 P1: cumulusx.exe P2:1.0.0.0 P3: 47dbcc19P4: cumulusx P5: 1.0.0.0 P6: 47dbcc19 P7:13 P8:c6P9: system.invalidoperationexceptionRunning on a relatively recent Quad core systemAnyone else running ok with Acceleration? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Lürkens 30 Posted March 21, 2008 Share Posted March 21, 2008 There are users with FSX-ACC, but I'm not sure if they had to install SP2 as well. There is at least one, who has installed SP2 after ACC, because he reported, that afterwards he had to repair-install the ACC, to get back some of its functions. Then everything worked fine.regards,Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
in_04 0 Posted March 21, 2008 Share Posted March 21, 2008 CumulusX! runs fine on my installation, which is FS RTM + Acceleration on Windows Vista 64 Bit.Maybe their is a VC Runtime missing?Did you use the 1.0 version of CumulusX!?What OS do you use? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjf71 0 Posted March 21, 2008 Author Share Posted March 21, 2008 V1.0 CumulusX! on XP Home. Thanks for the quick response guys.I've uninstalled acc, put on Sp1, then sp2 - and voila CumulusX running.Then tried to put acc but said I had to uninstall sp2, so I did, then reinstalled acc, and.....whew - Cx still seems to be running.Now to try it out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B21 19 Posted March 21, 2008 Share Posted March 21, 2008 I'm on Windows XP SP2 + FSX + Acceleration. Acceleration is installed instead of FSX SP2, but that part must be fine otherwise you wouldn't have FSX/Acceleration running at all. ** EDIT ** just seen your reply - pleased you're all sorted.Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Lürkens 30 Posted March 21, 2008 Share Posted March 21, 2008 I assume, it was the SP2 Simconnect.dll that was missing, since I think that that of ACC is different to SP2. Even when uninstalling SP2 through ACC, SP2-Simconnect remains on the system.For the time being I tried to avoid an intransparent installer, that potentially requires to switch off anti-virus software and such evil things.I have only one system that I can use for development and testing, so my options are limited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjf71 0 Posted March 21, 2008 Author Share Posted March 21, 2008 I assume, it was the SP2 Simconnect.dll that was missing, since I think that that of ACC is different to SP2. Even when uninstalling SP2 through ACC, SP2-Simconnect remains on the system.For the time being I tried to avoid an intransparent installer, that potentially requires to switch off anti-virus software and such evil things.I have only one system that I can use for development and testing, so my options are limited.Thank for you such impressive piece of software Peter and Ian. A quick spin around the ranges to the west of my home town (Brisbane Australia) produced very realistic movement and lift even in the Cessna. I'm really looking forward to trying this out with a glider and Tileproxy serving up photoreal scenery. While exploring the west of Bris lately found myself over Boonah (local gliding hotspot) and wondered if the FSX fraternity had expanded the gliding options. Answer appears to be "Yes!" to say the least! Mind you, I have a suspicion CumulusX! and Simprobe are going to stay in use on my system regardless of the aircraft in use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirkBoehm 0 Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 I assume, it was the SP2 Simconnect.dll that was missing, since I think that that of ACC is different to SP2. Even when uninstalling SP2 through ACC, SP2-Simconnect remains on the system.For the time being I tried to avoid an intransparent installer, that potentially requires to switch off anti-virus software and such evil things.I have only one system that I can use for development and testing, so my options are limited.Hi Peter,as you already know I'm working myself through that SDK documantations in my (currently very little) spare time. If I understand that documents correctly there's really different simconnect APIs for SP2 and ACC SDKs. The Acceleration-API contains the Acceleration features (e.g. online racing missons), the SP2 version does not.I think it could probably be possible to implement a function for reading out the different simconnect version numbers and reacting on that will be our task. With that function implemented it shouldn't be an issue to code one-for-all versions of our addons. BTW: Is that true, that CumulusX! isn't working with only SP1 installed? A friend of mine tried to run it (as he's really very interested on soaring with FSX) and CumulusX!1.0 crashed down with no message but the "CumulusX! Version 1.0 encountered a problem.... report to Micro$oft" window (in german it's "CumulusX! hat ein Problem festgestellt und muss beendet werden. ... ") I'll attach it for your information. Would it be possible to run it with SP1 anyhow? Perhaps with an older version?:cheers2:Dirk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Lürkens 30 Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 BTW: Is that true, that CumulusX! isn't working with only SP1 installed? A friend of mine tried to run it (as he's really very interested on soaring with FSX) and CumulusX!1.0 crashed down with no message but the "CumulusX! Version 1.0 encountered a problem.... report to Micro$oft" window (in german it's "CumulusX! hat ein Problem festgestellt und muss beendet werden. ... ") I'll attach it for your information. Would it be possible to run it with SP1 anyhow? Perhaps with an older version?Well, that is true. As from V 0.8.1 FSX-SP2 is required. I think it's really the best to upgrade to SP2, because there are so many restrictions in the older versions and I do not have the ambition (and the time, btw) to compete with commercial SW, supporting many different SW environments.It's probably worth to look how the SP2-DLL can be bundled with the release package.best regards,Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
binky9 0 Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 V1.0 CumulusX! on XP Home. Thanks for the quick response guys.I've uninstalled acc, put on Sp1, then sp2 - and voila CumulusX running.Then tried to put acc but said I had to uninstall sp2, so I did, then reinstalled acc, and.....whew - Cx still seems to be running.Now to try it out!What happens to your addon planes built for FSX-ACC when you uninstall ACC? Do you lose them? From the above, the sequence of events seems to be to uninstall ACC, install SP1, leave SP2 out of the process, and then re-install ACC. Is that right? Or, is there some required piece of SP2 that stays in after it's installed and uninstalled so that ACC works when you re-install it?Binky9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Lürkens 30 Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 Ther won't be problems, Binky9. The reason for the procedure is that CumulusX is linked against the simconnect.dll from SP2. The dll management of windows uspports backward and downward compatibility by forwarding dll requests to the highes existing version dll that is available. Unfortunately, SP2-simconnect has a a higher release number then that of the simconnect from ACC. So, when CumulusX demands for its dll version, it cannot be fulfilled.Once you install SP2, the associated simconnect.dll lands in the DLL cache. It is not removed when you uninstall SP2 and re-install ACC. Instead, among all the rest, he ACC simconnect lands in the DLL cache, too. So, at the end you may have up to four simconnect.dll's. You may have a look at Windows\WinSxS to check.#1: FSX RTM#2: FSX SP1#3: FSX SP2#4: FSX ACCEvery time, when a managed ("#.NET") application loads a DLL, it says which version it requires. So applications that were linked against the ACC dll will be supplied with this, Cumulusx! will get the SP2 dll.Unfortunately, the process for getting the correct dll is somewhat tedious, but I can't help.regards,Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
binky9 0 Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 Ther won't be problems, Binky9. The reason for the procedure is that CumulusX is linked against the simconnect.dll from SP2. The dll management of windows uspports backward and downward compatibility by forwarding dll requests to the highes existing version dll that is available. Unfortunately, SP2-simconnect has a a higher release number then that of the simconnect from ACC. So, when CumulusX demands for its dll version, it cannot be fulfilled.Once you install SP2, the associated simconnect.dll lands in the DLL cache. It is not removed when you uninstall SP2 and re-install ACC. Instead, among all the rest, he ACC simconnect lands in the DLL cache, too. So, at the end you may have up to four simconnect.dll's. You may have a look at Windows\WinSxS to check.#1: FSX RTM#2: FSX SP1#3: FSX SP2#4: FSX ACCEvery time, when a managed ("#.NET") application loads a DLL, it says which version it requires. So applications that were linked against the ACC dll will be supplied with this, Cumulusx! will get the SP2 dll.Unfortunately, the process for getting the correct dll is somewhat tedious, but I can't help.regards,PeterPeter,At what point do I add SimProbe? Before or after re-loading ACC?Thanks,Binky9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Lürkens 30 Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 It doesn't matter. Neither CumulusX! nor SimProbe interfere with installation files from FSX. They are just sitting in their own subdirectories, expecting, that FSX is somewhere.The only thing is to check that the tools are appropriately included in the exe.xml as described in their docs.best regards,Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
binky9 0 Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 It doesn't matter. Neither CumulusX! nor SimProbe interfere with installation files from FSX. They are just sitting in their own subdirectories, expecting, that FSX is somewhere.The only thing is to check that the tools are appropriately included in the exe.xml as described in their docs.best regards,PeterPeter,I'm closer to getting this thing to work. What goes in the Thermal Script File window under Settings? What does "Abbrechen" mean? Apply? Also, when I double-click on SimProbe, a black window flashes for a second, and then in gone.Thanks,Binky9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
binky9 0 Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 It doesn't matter. Neither CumulusX! nor SimProbe interfere with installation files from FSX. They are just sitting in their own subdirectories, expecting, that FSX is somewhere.The only thing is to check that the tools are appropriately included in the exe.xml as described in their docs.best regards,PeterPeter,I'm closer to getting this thing to work. What goes in the Thermal Script File window under Settings? What does "Abbrechen" mean? Apply? Also, when I double-click on SimProbe, a black window flashes for a second, and then in gone.Thanks,Binky9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Lürkens 30 Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 Binky9,The thermal script text window receives the filename of a text file, that contains a list of definitions of thermals. The script file provides maximum control over the appearance of thermals and is intended for designers of races or specific thermal situations. Usually you will leave the empty."Abbrechen" is German for "Cancel". You leave the dialogue without the changes becoming effective. Wondering, why this is not localized at your side. Or did you read this in the doc?regards,Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
binky9 0 Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 Binky9,The thermal script text window receives the filename of a text file, that contains a list of definitions of thermals. The script file provides maximum control over the appearance of thermals and is intended for designers of races or specific thermal situations. Usually you will leave the empty."Abbrechen" is German for "Cancel". You leave the dialogue without the changes becoming effective. Wondering, why this is not localized at your side. Or did you read this in the doc?regards,PeterThe "Abbrechen" was at the bottom right of the Settings form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
binky9 0 Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 Binky9,The thermal script text window receives the filename of a text file, that contains a list of definitions of thermals. The script file provides maximum control over the appearance of thermals and is intended for designers of races or specific thermal situations. Usually you will leave the empty."Abbrechen" is German for "Cancel". You leave the dialogue without the changes becoming effective. Wondering, why this is not localized at your side. Or did you read this in the doc?regards,PeterIs there anyone in Houston that can help me set up CumulusX! and simProbe on my computer? I have tried, and failed a couple of times.binky9@ix.netcom.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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