etopsbr 16 Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 Well, looks like v 4.2 doesn't fix it http://forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?/topic/130179-vc-lights-issue/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerosoft Aerosoft Team [Inactive Account] 51558 Posted February 18, 2018 Aerosoft Share Posted February 18, 2018 I have not seen this issue in 4.2. Did you do a complete update or just the client? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etopsbr 16 Posted February 19, 2018 Author Share Posted February 19, 2018 On 18/02/2018 at 3:31 PM, Mathijs Kok said: I have not seen this issue in 4.2. Did you do a complete update or just the client? Client and content update here.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEK_the_Reaper 233 Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 @Mathijs Kok @etopsbr This is NOT a CRJ issue but something else! I did a clean OS install and complete clean V4.2 install. The CRJ is not yet on my system since I wait for the latest update. I faced yesterday the exact same issue in the FSL for the first time ever. Didn't see it till yesterday. What came with the error was an extremely dark environment (VC and everything else) in the FSL and the NGX. It was so dark that I had to push the brightness of my monitor and even in the sim to almost max to be able to see something in the VC. After a PC restart, the issue was gone...and I could revert the video settings to normal. Restarting the sim did not do the trick... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerosoft Aerosoft Team [Inactive Account] 51558 Posted February 20, 2018 Aerosoft Share Posted February 20, 2018 There is a new issue in P3D when you go from full screen to windowed, could very well be that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etopsbr 16 Posted February 20, 2018 Author Share Posted February 20, 2018 2 hours ago, GEK_the_Reaper said: @Mathijs Kok @etopsbr This is NOT a CRJ issue but something else! I did a clean OS install and complete clean V4.2 install. The CRJ is not yet on my system since I wait for the latest update. I faced yesterday the exact same issue in the FSL for the first time ever. Didn't see it till yesterday. What came with the error was an extremely dark environment (VC and everything else) in the FSL and the NGX. It was so dark that I had to push the brightness of my monitor and even in the sim to almost max to be able to see something in the VC. After a PC restart, the issue was gone...and I could revert the video settings to normal. Restarting the sim did not do the trick... Yes, It's seems to be a P3D bug.. Thats why I wrote that the V4.2 doesn't fix it. Also reported this in FSL forum. They need to take this issue to LM so they can provide a real fix. It's somehow associated with the DLs that keeps desappearing when you moove the camera position. Really annoyng bug! My P3D is almost day ops only! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEK_the_Reaper 233 Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 @Mathijs KokI chased it down installing Addons one by one on a clean system and testing in between: the problem occures ONLY with UTLive enabled. Disabling UTLive all is ok, reanabling it, I loose the lights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developer Hans Hartmann 3695 Posted March 3, 2018 Developer Share Posted March 3, 2018 Thanks @GEK_the_Reaper for tracking this one down! You helped us a great deal. I'll contact the developers of UTLive and ask them to look at the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEK_the_Reaper 233 Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 Dear @Hans Hartmann, there's a hint from another forum that points towards a possible SimConnect issue. I started the sim with UTL on then pointed my camera so that the lights go off (in my case the Taxi Lights illuminating the ground). Killing UTLCLIENT.exe from the taskmanager, the lights instantly turned on. Maybe this helps further to understand what's happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEK_the_Reaper 233 Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 @Hans Hartmann @Mathijs Kok This is my proof of what happens on my system: Vanilla P3D (again) only with 1 Addon UTLive: https://youtu.be/9XQLszIbIxQ Upon resetting UTLive, lights work flawless, UTL fully initialized -> lights go off. REMARK: This is a standard P3D installation! I have changed NO settings in the sim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developer Hans Hartmann 3695 Posted March 3, 2018 Developer Share Posted March 3, 2018 Would you mind if I forward that video to the UTLive dev? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEK_the_Reaper 233 Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 vor 7 Stunden , Hans Hartmann sagte: Would you mind if I forward that video to the UTLive dev? Hello Hans, I already have a topic on their forum and the video is posted also there. In addition I have opened a ticket for this issue. Nevertheless of corse you can use the video. The user simbol (avsim) made me do another test: he told me to try to decrease the traffic. Magic happened! I always configure UTL with 50-60 commercial and 30%gen av traffic. It turned out that the light issue was getting better and better which each step I decreased the traffic. Reaching 40% on commercial and 25% gen av, the issue was completely gone! The explanation could be the new optimisation LM have made with v4.2 in regard to dynamic light. Many Simobjects lead to a decrease in performance and therefore DL gets shut down. I repeat myself for information: The upper test was on a brand new vanilla p3d v4.2 installation with all sliders on default and only UTL running. My specs are in my signature. It's almost unbeliavable that my system gets bottlenecked so quick. Furthermore I can move some p3d sliders to the right and the effect is unchanged. I also install all the addons and I'm able to load my sim with demanding addons (aircrafts) and the effect is again unchanged. The only thing that counts is how much traffic UTL injects... I'm obviously no programmer, neither do I understand how the sim works. I wrote this here so it might help you guys to understand what happens. If this will not be fixed, more and more complaints will come in. Best regards from Bodensee, Gerald Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developer Hans Hartmann 3695 Posted March 4, 2018 Developer Share Posted March 4, 2018 OK. I emailed Tom anyway and pointed him to this thread as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developer Hans Hartmann 3695 Posted March 4, 2018 Developer Share Posted March 4, 2018 Because we believe this topic has been answered we have closed it. If you have any more questions feel free to open a new topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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