Antonio Abreu 85 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Dear all, for some time now PFPX has been miscalculating the Flight Levels. For an over 2 hours flight (e.g. EDDS to LGAV) on an A320 with a typical load, it should assign something over FL330. However, it keeps assigning much lower FLs like 270, etc. I did not change anything in the configurations and I suspect it may be related to the lack of flight validations now in place. This miscalculations are a "no go" for the usage of PFPX (I will remember this on the renewal date) . Any clues of what the issue maybe? Thank you Link to comment https://forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?/topic/148078-incorrect-flight-levels-calculations/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
srcooke 439 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Post your OFP for EDDS-LGAV Antonio Link to comment https://forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?/topic/148078-incorrect-flight-levels-calculations/#findComment-951442 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antonio Abreu 85 Posted November 21, 2019 Author Share Posted November 21, 2019 1 hour ago, srcooke said: Post your OFP for EDDS-LGAV Antonio Hi, thanks for the quick reply. In this particular case the optimum FL given vy FSL A320 is FL330 and PFPX gave me FL290. I had even worse cases int the past with PFPX giving me as low as FL160 on 900 NM flights. It may be related to airways / rules restrictions but since PFPX is not validating those, it is strange ... Thank you EWG2686 EDDS-LGAV (21-Nov-2019) #2.pdf Link to comment https://forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?/topic/148078-incorrect-flight-levels-calculations/#findComment-951454 Share on other sites More sharing options...
srcooke 439 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Have you installed the RAD Restrictions and Directs file available HERE ? They are required for Free Route Airspace implementation ( unless you choose to do this yourself ) as the data is not available form AIRAC. Ensure you read the enclosed documentation before installing. Valid route on first pass for A320: (FPL-EWG2686-IN -A320/M-SDE1FGHIJ1RWXYZ/LB1 -EDDS0950 -N0401F230 ROTWE Y126 TUBLO N850 NATOR/N0442F350 UN850 TRA UP131 RESIA DCT LABIN DCT PETAK DCT PINDO UL607 PIKOS/N0397F230 L607 XORKI -LGAV0238 LGMK -PBN/A1B1C1D1L1O1S1 NAV/RNVD1E2A1 DOF/191121 REG/DAESE EET/EDUU0012 LSAC0015 LIMM0029 LDZO0051 LYBA0132 LAAA0137 LGGG0153 RVR/200 OPR/ / PER/C -E/0337) Link to comment https://forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?/topic/148078-incorrect-flight-levels-calculations/#findComment-951458 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antonio Abreu 85 Posted November 21, 2019 Author Share Posted November 21, 2019 Will give it a try this afternoon. Thank you. Link to comment https://forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?/topic/148078-incorrect-flight-levels-calculations/#findComment-951465 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antonio Abreu 85 Posted November 21, 2019 Author Share Posted November 21, 2019 Done. For a TOW around 71.6 tonnes PFPX still gives me FL290 as optimal. The real aircraft made the flight this morning at FL370 meaning that there should be no restrictions on airspace above FL290. If I reduce the TOW to just 56.2 tonnes, PFPX still gives me FL290 as optimal. Don't get it ... Thank you Please login to display this image. EWG2686 EDDS-LGAV (22-Nov-2019) #1.pdf Link to comment https://forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?/topic/148078-incorrect-flight-levels-calculations/#findComment-951480 Share on other sites More sharing options...
srcooke 439 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 The new OFP ? Link to comment https://forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?/topic/148078-incorrect-flight-levels-calculations/#findComment-951481 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antonio Abreu 85 Posted November 21, 2019 Author Share Posted November 21, 2019 Done. I know this is hard to unfold, many variables ... Link to comment https://forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?/topic/148078-incorrect-flight-levels-calculations/#findComment-951482 Share on other sites More sharing options...
srcooke 439 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 I would like to see the updated OFP and a snapshot showing the contents of your C:\Users\Public\Documents\PFPX Data\NavData folder. Link to comment https://forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?/topic/148078-incorrect-flight-levels-calculations/#findComment-951484 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antonio Abreu 85 Posted November 21, 2019 Author Share Posted November 21, 2019 The updated OFP is in the post above. The required screen is here ... Please login to display this image. Link to comment https://forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?/topic/148078-incorrect-flight-levels-calculations/#findComment-951489 Share on other sites More sharing options...
srcooke 439 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Have you cleared the route followed by find route once more as you are still planning using airways through Italy that have a max FL305. Separate issue, you should use the PFPX OFP format for the FSL if using the flightplan uplink. Link to comment https://forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?/topic/148078-incorrect-flight-levels-calculations/#findComment-951491 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antonio Abreu 85 Posted November 21, 2019 Author Share Posted November 21, 2019 51 minutes ago, srcooke said: Have you cleared the route followed by find route once more as you are still planning using airways through Italy that have a max FL305. Separate issue, you should use the PFPX OFP format for the FSL if using the flightplan uplink. I'm using PFPX OFP for FSL and the FP Uplink. Thank you for your clarifications. Link to comment https://forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?/topic/148078-incorrect-flight-levels-calculations/#findComment-951499 Share on other sites More sharing options...
srcooke 439 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Ahh ok, just the OFP above is EDS format. Any luck with a Free Route Airspace routing over Italy ? Link to comment https://forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?/topic/148078-incorrect-flight-levels-calculations/#findComment-951518 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antonio Abreu 85 Posted November 24, 2019 Author Share Posted November 24, 2019 Hey, althought I am familiar with most of the concepts involved in dispatching like ree routes (Portugal was one of the first countries to adopt it), air spaces, airspace limitations, semi-circular rules, RVSM, etc, I also want to minimise the effort involved to create an OFP because the role I like to play is the pilot, not the refueller, not the dispatcher, etc. Therefore I'm now testing SimBrief hoping that it provides a "leaner" and more effective way to get to the OFP the pilot needs. Honestly I think PFPX is great but it maybe time for a revamp that will remove all those errors that popoup when we validate routes. Maybe I'll come back to PFPX later on, even because my license is payed until October 2020 ... Thank you so much for your support, António Link to comment https://forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?/topic/148078-incorrect-flight-levels-calculations/#findComment-951947 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chkl 34 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 On 11/24/2019 at 7:25 AM, Antonio Abreu said: Hey, althought I am familiar with most of the concepts involved in dispatching like ree routes (Portugal was one of the first countries to adopt it), air spaces, airspace limitations, semi-circular rules, RVSM, etc, I also want to minimise the effort involved to create an OFP because the role I like to play is the pilot, not the refueller, not the dispatcher, etc. Therefore I'm now testing SimBrief hoping that it provides a "leaner" and more effective way to get to the OFP the pilot needs. Honestly I think PFPX is great but it maybe time for a revamp that will remove all those errors that popoup when we validate routes. Maybe I'll come back to PFPX later on, even because my license is payed until October 2020 ... Thank you so much for your support, António This is a real plan from today. The lower initial cruise level is normal in that area of Europe. Filed FL210 N0384F210 ABTAL4B ABTAL L173 RIXED/N0435F390 Y161 MAH/N0435F390 L173 OTT M867 VAROB DCT NIPEL DCT VRANA DCT PETAK DCT PINDO UL607 XORKI Link to comment https://forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?/topic/148078-incorrect-flight-levels-calculations/#findComment-963137 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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