Goofey007 24 Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 Hi, I took today advantage of the 20% off promotion on the military aircraft sale. And bought Bronco X, EE Lightning F3 X and Huey X. Buying, downloading from the DL shop is straight forward as always. I am posting under Bronco because it is the first plane I installed. I am using mainly FSX, and usually install only for FSX. AV disabled and run the installer as administrator. And, exeptional, today I ran the installer a second time for FSX-SE and a third time for P3Dv3. So far no problems encountered. To my surprise the installer of EE Lightning F3 and Huey X did not find the FSX folder anymore. Pointing the installer manually to the fsx folder also did not help. Just to check what is going on, I launched Simstarter NG. Normally I have to choose the fsim. This time there were no choices presented This is what I found after the installation of Bronco X: -All files under the main folder of FSX, FSX-SE and LM P3D are gone ! -The subfolders are still there -The bronco installer created folders in the respective simobjekts subfolders. So I assume the plane is installed At this moment I am assuming a corrupt download caused this nightmare. I used the 'Mirror EU' button in my download account. Firefox is my main browser, no download addons. Unzipping of the download is done in windows explorer and did not cause any problems. Is it possible to post a hash (MD5/SHA/...) for the downloaded file (AS_BRONCO-X_FSX-P3D-FSXSTEAM.zip) so I can check? I am assuming that my windows register is not affected Johan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goofey007 24 Posted February 25, 2018 Author Share Posted February 25, 2018 Here is a small update. Starting FSX-SE under Steam triggered a redownload of the missing files. (±11Mb) After downloading these files, FSX-SE is up and running. The Bronco is there For fixing LM I uninstalled P3Dv3 completely. Leftovers were folders/files of the bronco installer. I did not manually delete them. I reinstalled LM to the exact same location/folder. P3D is up and running again and yes..the Bronco is there I can now again choose a flightsim at startup of Simstarter NG To do: reinstall FSX... Yes , I know ...get rid of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerosoft Aerosoft Team [Inactive Account] 51558 Posted February 26, 2018 Aerosoft Share Posted February 26, 2018 The installer checks it's own content before the installation starts so you can be 100% sure it is correct when the installer starts. I have no explanation for your problems. The installer does not contain a single delete, rename or cut command and the same installer did not cause such issues with all other customers. I understand this does not really help you, but I do state the installer might have triggered something, but it did not delete any files. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goofey007 24 Posted February 26, 2018 Author Share Posted February 26, 2018 Thank you Sir for your input. I concur with your statement that there is a anomality on my PC, that causes this and is triggered by the Bronco installer. After restoring FSX-SE and P3Dv3 yesterday I could install EE lightning F3 (to FSX-SE & P3Dv3) and Huey X (to LM) without problems. Today I run the Bronco installer a second time. And guess what? The installer did it again. Because FSX is not restored yet, I choose to install the bronco to FSX-SE . Again all the files in the root directory of the flightsim are gone. This means the anomality is still there. Sir, I realize this is hardly your problem, and want to apologize for the somewhat harsh heading on this topic I do hope that someone comes up with a proposition on how to takle this. Thank in advance for reading this Johan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerosoft Aerosoft Team [Inactive Account] 51558 Posted February 26, 2018 Aerosoft Share Posted February 26, 2018 No problem, I would be highly interested in knowing what caused this. It is seriously weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goofey007 24 Posted February 26, 2018 Author Share Posted February 26, 2018 At the moment I am grounded So there is time to investigate If I can pinpoint this , I'll post it here Johan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goofey007 24 Posted February 27, 2018 Author Share Posted February 27, 2018 Here is a small update. Today I spent some time uninstalling every flightsim addon (Scenery/aircraft/tools) and almost all programs not related to flightsimulation. I did run a registry cleaner and made a clean install of MS FSX. I ran the bronco installer and again it triggered the disappearing of all files in the root-folder of FSX. I took some screenshots of every fase of the installer with windows explorer showing the files of FSX installation folder. As you can see at the end of installation the bronco is installed. The files disappear during the copy process when the progress indicator is ±halfway. I restored the files from the flightsim folder, started FSX and all seems to be working okay , incl bronco. (=Work around ) Ran the installer with UAC turned off, same result And just to check , I ran the installer on another PC (Other hardware components). The anomality there also exists. The two PC's have one common factor. They are both on Win10 Pro V1709 B16299.248 And again, only this installer triggers the anomality. All other addons install normally. I am not a software engineer and running out of options here. I do have a spare drive, so I'll install Win7 and try it again. It is odd that only this installer triggers the anomality. There must be a difference with other addon installers MD5 checksum of AS_BRONCO-X_FSX-P3D-FSXSTEAM V1.12.zip = 1f6e8a56cf768d7c157c456eb87488cf Just guessing Please login to display this image. Please login to display this image. Please login to display this image. Please login to display this image. Please login to display this image. Please login to display this image. Please login to display this image. Please login to display this image. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerosoft Aerosoft Team [Inactive Account] 51558 Posted February 28, 2018 Aerosoft Share Posted February 28, 2018 I'll ask our installer builder to look at your post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerosoft Aerosoft Team [Inactive Account] 51558 Posted February 28, 2018 Aerosoft Share Posted February 28, 2018 Standby.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goofey007 24 Posted February 28, 2018 Author Share Posted February 28, 2018 Okay, thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerosoft Aerosoft Team [Inactive Account] 51558 Posted February 28, 2018 Aerosoft Share Posted February 28, 2018 Can you confirm you are using this one? AS_BRONCO-X_FSX-P3D-FSXSTEAM.zip => · AS_BRONCO-X-FSX_P3D_FSXSTEAM_V121.exe 283.521.944 18.08.2017 09:00 -a-- · Licence agreement Aerosoft DE.txt 5.764 18.08.2017 09:00 -a-- · Licence agreement Aerosoft EN.txt 3.741 18.08.2017 09:00 -a-- · Licence agreement Aerosoft FR.txt 2.978 18.08.2017 09:00 -a-- · Licence agreement Aerosoft SP.txt 3.337 18.08.2017 09:00 -a-- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goofey007 24 Posted February 28, 2018 Author Share Posted February 28, 2018 Yes Sir I can. File size and creation date are exactly the same Please login to display this image. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerosoft Aerosoft Team [Inactive Account] 51558 Posted February 28, 2018 Aerosoft Share Posted February 28, 2018 Okay.... we tried this on a few machines but simply are unable to get the same results. For now it's a very strange issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goofey007 24 Posted February 28, 2018 Author Share Posted February 28, 2018 You have not by any chance implemented a new kind of DRM technology? STEALTH technology better than the other company Sorry, could not resist. Most certainly NO offence meant. I know you are all working very hard and even looking into this issue. (Probaly a one in a million) I also must admit that, allthough I am eager to get airborne again and leave this behind me, I am intrigued. I found the spare harddrive here, I do have another copy of Win7. I will make a clean OS install + FSX and run your installer. It will be with a 3rd combination of hardware I have not decided yet for a new win 10 installation on the main gaming PC. Keep up the good work and THANK YOU everybody Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goofey007 24 Posted February 28, 2018 Author Share Posted February 28, 2018 This is weird. Just finished installing Win7Pro sp1 , fsx Deluxe Edition on a clean hdd (created 2 partitions). Nothing else installed Hell, I did not even install graphics driver and motherboard drivers. (No network connectivity) Just copied the bronco installer through a USB stick to this 3rd machine. And again all files under de root folder of the flightsim disappear during copy process of installer. This brings me back to the beginning of my post. The installer must be compromised in one way or another Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goofey007 24 Posted February 28, 2018 Author Share Posted February 28, 2018 Just downloaded the bronco installer from my DL-account again. (Mirror EU) Everything is okay now. No problems anymore. No deletion of files I notice that the file has been changed and the creation date is rather recent For your information: the file downloaded through Mirror World is still the old one ( AS_BRONCO-X-FSX_P3D_FSXSTEAM_V121.exe 283.521.944 18.08.2017 09:00 ) I am very curious now as what did happen? Please login to display this image. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerosoft Aerosoft Team [Inactive Account] 51558 Posted March 1, 2018 Aerosoft Share Posted March 1, 2018 I have no idea. I checked the files to see if they were okay and they were. Just glad to see it solved! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goofey007 24 Posted March 1, 2018 Author Share Posted March 1, 2018 Sir, with respect. That is not good enough explenation for me. I do have here 2 versions of your installer. One deletes all files under the flightsim folder, the second (283 521 688b created 28 feb 2018) is oke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goofey007 24 Posted March 1, 2018 Author Share Posted March 1, 2018 Do I have to be worried now, each time i run an installer that my flightsim files will be deleted? Clearly , downloading, unzipping and running successfully an installer is no indication that there CAN go something wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goofey007 24 Posted March 1, 2018 Author Share Posted March 1, 2018 Just downloaded the bronco installer again , using the Mirror World option. The file is now also the latest version (283 521 688b created 28 feb 2018) Aerosoft, you must be doing something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerosoft Aerosoft Team [Inactive Account] 51558 Posted March 1, 2018 Aerosoft Share Posted March 1, 2018 I would not worry about files being wiped as we simply have not seen this with other customers. We have indeed updated the installer with a function that simply prevents it from touching other files. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goofey007 24 Posted March 1, 2018 Author Share Posted March 1, 2018 It is hard not to worry. I do know now that it is possible. Especially my last attempt with clean installation of OS and no drivers installed, makes me confident I can showcase this file wiping on every combination of hardware, any place any time... So everyone is hereby invited for a demo Sir, Appreciate the effort (adding a function that simply prevents touching other files). Thank you and your team However , this file wiping thing is far too intriguing to let go Johan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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