VirtualVikingX 0 Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 To enter the ILS freq, I have to know the right 3 letters, and these goes into the FMC. But how do I know what letters to use? Ex: ENGM 19R. And how can I enter the ILS freq. manually? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeroen Rutgers-Herenius 167 Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 To enter the ILS freq, I have to know the right 3 letters, and these goes into the FMC. But how do I know what letters to use? Ex: ENGM 19R. And how can I enter the ILS freq. manually? The 3 letters for ILS for ENGM 19R are GSW freq 111.30 If you go to the RAD NAV page yoy can either enter GSW, the freq will then be selected automatically, and as soon as your within distance it will pick up on the ILS. you can also enter the freq. Once the LOC is alive you will see the freq and GSW in your ND The ILS you can find on charts ( Pfd link http://www.vaccsca.org/uploads/ENGM.pdf ) or even pull up the map inside FSX and go to your aiport, click on it and look at the runways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tup61 185 Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 I always simply enter the freqs. I didn't even know those things had a name... I used to look up the freqs on the FSX map, but I had a CTD after accessing the map today, so from now on I will simply make a note from all the freqs of my arrival airport when I am planning the flight and enter the one I need when I get there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Pampiermole 26 Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 Take a look at the fsx map. Click on the desired/assigned runway. The ils freq and course will show up in a menu. Just enter the frequency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VirtualVikingX 0 Posted September 5, 2010 Author Share Posted September 5, 2010 Thanks guys. I know about the map and stuff. I have also tried to manually enter te ILS freq. However; what is "GWS"? VOR? DME? Something else? And how does the bus know what runway i will be landing on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy B. 40 Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 It knows from the ILS frequency and the course you set which runway you are using. The course part is important because some airports us the same frequency for both ends of the runway, if you use the name though it avoids this confusion as the names are different (even if they use the same frequency) depending on which runway you are using . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VirtualVikingX 0 Posted September 5, 2010 Author Share Posted September 5, 2010 It knows from the ILS frequency and the course you set which runway you are using. The course part is important because some airports us the same frequency for both ends of the runway, if you use the name though it avoids this confusion as the names are different (even if they use the same frequency) depending on which runway you are using . Yes of course, if I use the freq. + course, I understand how it works. Thats just like the default planes. I mean how the plane knows the runway and ils freq. from a 3 letter abbriviation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeroen Rutgers-Herenius 167 Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 Yes of course, if I use the freq. + course, I understand how it works. Thats just like the default planes. I mean how the plane knows the runway and ils freq. from a 3 letter abbriviation. the 3 letter abbriviation is stored in the database of the mcdu, and unique to the runway it is connected to. The same way the computer know ESSA is Arlanda or EGCC is Manchester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VirtualVikingX 0 Posted September 5, 2010 Author Share Posted September 5, 2010 Ok, thats what I thought first. Guess I have to brush up on my chart readin skills. Happy if anyone provides some tips here. I have no trouble finding DMEs, VORs etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy B. 40 Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 The quickest way to find the correct ILS frequency and course heading it to use the FSX map or use an external flight planning program like FSCommander, the later shows the details clearly on the map next to the ILS flags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VirtualVikingX 0 Posted September 5, 2010 Author Share Posted September 5, 2010 Yes, Im familiar with finding the ILS FREQ, but not the 3 letter abbr. I guess I need to brush up on my english skills as well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy B. 40 Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 They are on the charts next to the ILS frequency along with the morse code ident. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VirtualVikingX 0 Posted September 5, 2010 Author Share Posted September 5, 2010 Thank you very much, Andy! EDIT: And Craig! EDIT II: Of course, its the same as the morse code id. Makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedbirdCraig 11 Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 The 3 letter indentifier is usaully next to the frequency for example Heathrow ILS 09L chart below http://www.ead.euroc..._2010-06-03.pdf You can see top right of this chart the name of the ILS: ILS/DME I-AA RWY 09L and again in the centre of the chart is the name & frequency I-AA 110.30 Edit: Sorry Andy, I was writing this while you posted, nevermind hopefully someone finds it useful... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tup61 185 Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 I don't think you can find those names in FSX itself. But why bother when you can simply enter the frequency...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy B. 40 Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 Because when you enter the name you don't have to enter a frequency or course as the database in the MCDU automatically knows this information and enters it for you, so its a little quicker. I haven't actually tried it in this bus yet but that's how it's supposed to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeroen Rutgers-Herenius 167 Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 I don't think you can find those names in FSX itself. But why bother when you can simply enter the frequency...? you can The 3 letter indentifier shows in the fsx map. click on the airport and all runways including ils freq and identifier are listed as well as the runways without. If you hover the mous over the green ils "beam" on the map you see them too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tup61 185 Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 Because when you enter the name you don't have to enter a frequency or course as the database in the MCDU automatically knows this information and enters it for you, so its a little quicker. I haven't actually tried it in this bus yet but that's how it's supposed to work. I did it during the tutorial and it works indeed. you can The 3 letter indentifier shows in the fsx map. click on the airport and all runways including ils freq and identifier are listed as well as the runways without. If you hover the mous over the green ils "beam" on the map you see them too. Ah, right you are!!! Funny how I really never noticed that!!! Nice. I'll do that from now on! (The airport I am at now does have 3 letter identifiers, though... I won't save much time by entering the code instead of the frequency... ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy B. 40 Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 You still have to select the course as well though thats another step too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tup61 185 Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 You still have to select the course as well though thats another step too Yes, pity the MCDU isn't clever enough to add that too. (Don't know if the real thing does that?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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