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Hi guys! Hope you all are doing well? First, thanks for making Norwegian airports in X-plane happen. Been using them for years for both XP and P3D, and I love that Aerosoft is doing so much for our small country in the north. Thanks! 

 

I have an issue when using Ortho from ZonePhoto and loading Aerosoft ENBR Bergen 1.03. It takes from 12-14 minutes to load. I can live with this issues without any problems, but it only happens in Bergen and when used together with ZonePhoto. 

Usual loading time for a tile with ZonePhoto and a custom airport is about 1-2 minutes. ZonePhoto with ENGM takes 1.40min, so I'm scratching my head wondering what the issue might be.  

 

Scenario 1: Loading both: 10-14 minutes

Scenario 2: Loading only ENBR: 1:22

Scenario 3: Loading only Ortho with default airport: 1:15

All scenarios without any other custom scenery activated 

 

More info:

  • The loading order is correct. See attached scenery-pack.cfg for more info. (gotta love xOrganizer for making adjustments a lot easier ;o) )
  • It looks fantastic once everything is loaded. No issues with the scenery or the Ortho. Frames are stable between 60-90FPS. All is good except loading times. 
  • I've tried to disable all custom scenery, including X-europe. See scenario 1-3 for loading times without custom scenery. 

 

I could generate my own tile using Ortho4XP with the instructions provided and the elevation-file, but I prefer using ZonePhoto to save time and effort.

 

The log file below, includes X-europe and other addons as well, but rest assured, when disabling all Custom Scenery, the loading issues is still there. One thing I do see, is that it loads several ortho-tiles. Loading time for those are marked in bold.  

 

Excerpts from Log:

0:00:47.702 I/FLT: Init dat_p0 type:loc_ram apt:ENBR start at:24
0:00:49.156 I/SCN: DSF load time: 2548 for file Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-Europe-4-forests/Earth nav data/+60+000/+61+003.dsf (0 tris, 0 skipped for 0.0 m^2)
0:00:49.156 I/SCN: DSF load time: 1769 for file Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-Europe-5-scenery/Earth nav data/+60+000/+61+003.dsf (0 tris, 0 skipped for 0.0 m^2)
0:00:49.156 I/DSF: Warning for missing scenery file: +59+003
0:00:49.156 I/DSF: Warning for missing scenery file: +61+003
0:00:49.156 I/SCN: DSF load time: 271897 for file Custom Scenery/Global Airports/Earth nav data/+60+000/+61+005.dsf (0 tris, 0 skipped for 0.0 m^2)
0:00:49.156 I/SCN: DSF load time: 344598 for file Custom Scenery/Global Airports/Earth nav data/+50+000/+59+005.dsf (0 tris, 0 skipped for 0.0 m^2)
0:00:49.156 I/SCN: DSF load time: 86226 for file Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-Europe-3-extras/Earth nav data/+60+000/+61+005.dsf (0 tris, 0 skipped for 0.0 m^2)
0:00:49.156 I/SCN: DSF load time: 14999 for file Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-Europe-3-extras/Earth nav data/+50+000/+59+005.dsf (0 tris, 0 skipped for 0.0 m^2)
0:00:49.156 I/SCN: DSF load time: 50411 for file Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-Europe-4-forests/Earth nav data/+50+000/+59+005.dsf (0 tris, 0 skipped for 0.0 m^2)
0:00:49.156 I/SCN: DSF load time: 190 for file Custom Scenery/Global Airports/Earth nav data/+60+000/+60+003.dsf (0 tris, 0 skipped for 0.0 m^2)
0:00:49.156 I/SCN: DSF load time: 61283 for file Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-Europe-4-forests/Earth nav data/+60+000/+61+005.dsf (0 tris, 0 skipped for 0.0 m^2)
0:00:49.156 I/SCN: DSF load time: 2324 for file Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-Europe-4-forests/Earth nav data/+60+000/+60+003.dsf (0 tris, 0 skipped for 0.0 m^2)
0:00:49.156 I/SCN: DSF load time: 59110 for file Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-Europe-5-scenery/Earth nav data/+60+000/+60+003.dsf (0 tris, 0 skipped for 0.0 m^2)
0:00:49.156 I/DSF: Warning for missing scenery file: +60+003
0:00:49.156 I/SCN: DSF load time: 831701 for file Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-Europe-5-scenery/Earth nav data/+60+000/+61+005.dsf (0 tris, 0 skipped for 0.0 m^2)
0:00:49.156 I/SCN: DSF load time: 851579 for file Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-Europe-5-scenery/Earth nav data/+50+000/+59+005.dsf (0 tris, 0 skipped for 0.0 m^2)
0:00:49.156 I/SCN: DSF load time: 1694 for file Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-Europe-6-autogen/Earth nav data/+60+000/+61+005.dsf (0 tris, 0 skipped for 0.0 m^2)
0:00:49.156 I/SCN: DSF load time: 11330 for file Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-Europe-6-autogen/Earth nav data/+50+000/+59+005.dsf (0 tris, 0 skipped for 0.0 m^2)
0:00:49.156 I/SCN: DSF load time: 590243 for file Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-Europe-7-network/Earth nav data/+60+000/+61+005.dsf (0 tris, 0 skipped for 0.0 m^2)
0:00:49.156 I/SCN: DSF load time: 673335 for file Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-Europe-7-network/Earth nav data/+50+000/+59+005.dsf (0 tris, 0 skipped for 0.0 m^2)
0:00:49.156 I/SCN: DSF load time: 8836963 for file Custom Scenery/zPhotoXP_+61+005_16_Floro_XP10_2018-06-terrain/Earth nav data/+60+000/+61+005.dsf (4278621 tris, 98 skipped for -13.1 m^2)
0:00:49.156 E/DSF: The DSF Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-Europe-7-network/Earth nav data/+60+000/+61+005.dsf has a number of problems with its road network: 30 doubled nodes, 0 direction reverses, 0 short segments, 7 roads deleted.
0:00:49.156 I/SCN: DSF load time: 10109283 for file Custom Scenery/zPhotoXP_+59+005_16_Haugesund_XP10_2018-06-terrain/Earth nav data/+50+000/+59+005.dsf (4760005 tris, 138 skipped for -16.0 m^2)
0:00:49.156 E/DSF: The DSF Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-Europe-7-network/Earth nav data/+50+000/+59+005.dsf has a number of problems with its road network: 15 doubled nodes, 0 direction reverses, 0 short segments, 4 roads deleted.
0:00:49.156 I/SCN: DSF load time: 3112 for file Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-Europe-3-extras/Earth nav data/+60+000/+61+004.dsf (0 tris, 0 skipped for 0.0 m^2)
0:00:49.156 I/SCN: DSF load time: 6100 for file Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-Europe-4-forests/Earth nav data/+60+000/+61+004.dsf (0 tris, 0 skipped for 0.0 m^2)
0:00:49.156 I/SCN: DSF load time: 29085 for file Custom Scenery/a - ENSD Sandane/Earth nav data/+60+000/+61+006.dsf (0 tris, 0 skipped for 0.0 m^2)
0:00:49.156 I/SCN: DSF load time: 20062 for file Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-Europe-5-scenery/Earth nav data/+60+000/+61+004.dsf (0 tris, 0 skipped for 0.0 m^2)
0:00:49.156 I/SCN: DSF load time: 1773 for file Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-Europe-6-autogen/Earth nav data/+60+000/+61+004.dsf (0 tris, 0 skipped for 0.0 m^2)
0:00:49.156 I/SCN: DSF load time: 7083 for file Custom Scenery/Global Airports/Earth nav data/+60+000/+61+006.dsf (0 tris, 0 skipped for 0.0 m^2)
0:00:49.156 I/SCN: DSF load time: 7419 for file Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-Europe-7-network/Earth nav data/+60+000/+61+004.dsf (0 tris, 0 skipped for 0.0 m^2)
0:00:49.156 I/SCN: DSF load time: 31083 for file Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-Europe-3-extras/Earth nav data/+60+000/+61+006.dsf (0 tris, 0 skipped for 0.0 m^2)
0:00:49.156 I/SCN: DSF load time: 51888 for file Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-Europe-4-forests/Earth nav data/+60+000/+61+006.dsf (0 tris, 0 skipped for 0.0 m^2)
0:00:49.156 I/SCN: DSF load time: 12372 for file Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-Europe-5-scenery/Earth nav data/+60+000/+61+006.dsf (0 tris, 0 skipped for 0.0 m^2)
0:00:49.156 I/SCN: DSF load time: 1146 for file Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-Europe-6-autogen/Earth nav data/+60+000/+61+006.dsf (0 tris, 0 skipped for 0.0 m^2)
0:00:49.156 I/SCN: DSF load time: 51397 for file Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-Europe-7-network/Earth nav data/+60+000/+61+006.dsf (0 tris, 0 skipped for 0.0 m^2)
0:00:49.156 I/SCN: DSF load time: 3780755 for file Custom Scenery/zPhotoXP_+61+004_16_Hardbakke_XP10_2018-06-terrain/Earth nav data/+60+000/+61+004.dsf (1546519 tris, 27 skipped for -42.9 m^2)
0:00:49.156 E/DSF: The DSF Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-Europe-7-network/Earth nav data/+60+000/+61+004.dsf has a number of problems with its road network: 1 doubled nodes, 0 direction reverses, 0 short segments, 0 roads deleted.
0:00:49.156 I/SCN: DSF load time: 437 for file Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-Europe-3-extras/Earth nav data/+50+000/+59+004.dsf (0 tris, 0 skipped for 0.0 m^2)
0:00:49.156 I/SCN: DSF load time: 290 for file Custom Scenery/Global Airports/Earth nav data/+50+000/+59+006.dsf (0 tris, 0 skipped for 0.0 m^2)
0:00:49.156 I/SCN: DSF load time: 2143 for file Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-Europe-4-forests/Earth nav data/+50+000/+59+004.dsf (0 tris, 0 skipped for 0.0 m^2)
0:00:49.156 I/SCN: DSF load time: 4596 for file Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-Europe-5-scenery/Earth nav data/+50+000/+59+004.dsf (0 tris, 0 skipped for 0.0 m^2)
0:00:49.156 I/SCN: DSF load time: 46 for file Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-Europe-6-autogen/Earth nav data/+50+000/+59+004.dsf (0 tris, 0 skipped for 0.0 m^2)
0:00:49.156 I/SCN: DSF load time: 416 for file Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-Europe-7-network/Earth nav data/+50+000/+59+004.dsf (0 tris, 0 skipped for 0.0 m^2)
0:00:49.156 I/SCN: DSF load time: 45101 for file Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-Europe-3-extras/Earth nav data/+50+000/+59+006.dsf (0 tris, 0 skipped for 0.0 m^2)
0:00:49.156 I/SCN: DSF load time: 21864 for file Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-Europe-4-forests/Earth nav data/+50+000/+59+006.dsf (0 tris, 0 skipped for 0.0 m^2)
0:00:49.156 I/SCN: DSF load time: 9196 for file Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-Europe-5-scenery/Earth nav data/+50+000/+59+006.dsf (0 tris, 0 skipped for 0.0 m^2)
0:00:49.156 I/SCN: DSF load time: 86531 for file Custom Scenery/zPhotoXP_+59+004_16_Utsira_XP10_2018-06-terrain/Earth nav data/+50+000/+59+004.dsf (34308 tris, 0 skipped for 0.0 m^2)
0:00:49.156 I/SCN: DSF load time: 1104 for file Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-Europe-6-autogen/Earth nav data/+50+000/+59+006.dsf (0 tris, 0 skipped for 0.0 m^2)
0:00:49.156 I/SCN: DSF load time: 1844 for file Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-Europe-3-extras/Earth nav data/+60+000/+60+004.dsf (0 tris, 0 skipped for 0.0 m^2)
0:00:49.156 I/SCN: DSF load time: 5240 for file Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-Europe-4-forests/Earth nav data/+60+000/+60+004.dsf (0 tris, 0 skipped for 0.0 m^2)
0:00:49.156 I/SCN: DSF load time: 14531 for file Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-Europe-5-scenery/Earth nav data/+60+000/+60+004.dsf (0 tris, 0 skipped for 0.0 m^2)
0:00:49.156 I/SCN: DSF load time: 1401 for file Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-Europe-6-autogen/Earth nav data/+60+000/+60+004.dsf (0 tris, 0 skipped for 0.0 m^2)
0:00:49.156 I/SCN: DSF load time: 37637 for file Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-Europe-7-network/Earth nav data/+50+000/+59+006.dsf (0 tris, 0 skipped for 0.0 m^2)
0:00:49.156 I/SCN: DSF load time: 13365 for file Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-Europe-7-network/Earth nav data/+60+000/+60+004.dsf (0 tris, 0 skipped for 0.0 m^2)
0:00:49.156 I/SCN: DSF load time: 5956477 for file Custom Scenery/zPhotoXP_+61+006_16_Sandane_XP10_2018-06-terrain/Earth nav data/+60+000/+61+006.dsf (3101716 tris, 45 skipped for -39.3 m^2)
0:00:49.156 E/DSF: The DSF Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-Europe-7-network/Earth nav data/+60+000/+61+006.dsf has a number of problems with its road network: 29 doubled nodes, 0 direction reverses, 0 short segments, 6 roads deleted.
0:00:49.156 I/SCN: DSF load time: 2321855 for file Custom Scenery/zPhotoXP_+60+004_16_Telavag_XP10_2018-06-terrain/Earth nav data/+60+000/+60+004.dsf (919538 tris, 58 skipped for -4.8 m^2)
0:00:49.156 E/DSF: The DSF Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-Europe-7-network/Earth nav data/+60+000/+60+004.dsf has a number of problems with its road network: 2 doubled nodes, 0 direction reverses, 0 short segments, 0 roads deleted.
0:00:49.156 I/SCN: DSF load time: 6013116 for file Custom Scenery/zPhotoXP_+59+006_16_Sauda_XP10_2018-06-terrain/Earth nav data/+50+000/+59+006.dsf (3813833 tris, 52 skipped for -111.9 m^2)
0:00:49.156 E/DSF: The DSF Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-Europe-7-network/Earth nav data/+50+000/+59+006.dsf has a number of problems with its road network: 10 doubled nodes, 0 direction reverses, 0 short segments, 1 roads deleted.
0:00:49.156 I/SCN: DSF load time: 2999343 for file Custom Scenery/Aerosoft - ENBR Bergen - Airport/Earth nav data/+60+000/+60+005.dsf (0 tris, 0 skipped for 0.0 m^2)
0:00:49.156 I/SCN: DSF load time: 120156 for file Custom Scenery/Global Airports/Earth nav data/+60+000/+60+005.dsf (0 tris, 0 skipped for 0.0 m^2)
0:00:49.156 I/SCN: DSF load time: 58416 for file Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-Europe-3-extras/Earth nav data/+60+000/+60+005.dsf (0 tris, 0 skipped for 0.0 m^2)
0:00:49.156 I/SCN: DSF load time: 109776 for file Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-Europe-4-forests/Earth nav data/+60+000/+60+005.dsf (0 tris, 0 skipped for 0.0 m^2)
0:00:49.156 I/SCN: DSF load time: 415539 for file Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-Europe-5-scenery/Earth nav data/+60+000/+60+005.dsf (0 tris, 0 skipped for 0.0 m^2)
0:00:49.156 I/SCN: DSF load time: 24709 for file Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-Europe-6-autogen/Earth nav data/+60+000/+60+005.dsf (0 tris, 0 skipped for 0.0 m^2)
0:00:49.156 I/SCN: DSF load time: 44747 for file Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-Europe-7-network/Earth nav data/+60+000/+60+005.dsf (0 tris, 0 skipped for 0.0 m^2)
0:00:49.156 I/SCN: DSF load time: 12635870 for file Custom Scenery/zPhotoXP_+60+005_16_Bergen_XP10_2018-06-terrain/Earth nav data/+60+000/+60+005.dsf (6947381 tris, 190 skipped for -34.3 m^2)
0:00:49.156 I/SCN: DSF load time: 67751 for file Custom Scenery/Global Airports/Earth nav data/+60+000/+60+006.dsf (0 tris, 0 skipped for 0.0 m^2)
0:00:49.156 I/SCN: DSF load time: 59398 for file Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-Europe-3-extras/Earth nav data/+60+000/+60+006.dsf (0 tris, 0 skipped for 0.0 m^2)
0:00:49.156 I/SCN: DSF load time: 48591 for file Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-Europe-4-forests/Earth nav data/+60+000/+60+006.dsf (0 tris, 0 skipped for 0.0 m^2)
0:00:49.156 I/SCN: DSF load time: 11153 for file Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-Europe-5-scenery/Earth nav data/+60+000/+60+006.dsf (0 tris, 0 skipped for 0.0 m^2)
0:00:49.156 I/SCN: DSF load time: 2766 for file Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-Europe-6-autogen/Earth nav data/+60+000/+60+006.dsf (0 tris, 0 skipped for 0.0 m^2)
0:00:49.156 I/SCN: DSF load time: 41857 for file Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-Europe-7-network/Earth nav data/+60+000/+60+006.dsf (0 tris, 0 skipped for 0.0 m^2)
0:00:49.156 I/SCN: DSF load time: 5834050 for file Custom Scenery/zPhotoXP_+60+006_16_Vossavangen_XP10_2018-06-terrain/Earth nav data/+60+000/+60+006.dsf (4381771 tris, 46 skipped for -141.9 m^2)
0:00:49.156 E/DSF: The DSF Custom Scenery/simHeaven_X-Europe-7-network/Earth nav data/+60+000/+60+006.dsf has a number of problems with its road network: 28 doubled nodes, 0 direction reverses, 0 short segments, 7 roads deleted.

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i7 running around 4.8/4.9, 1080Ti and 32Gb ram. Nvme-ssds for everything. Defender-exception for the entire parition running X-plane. No issues running TrueScenery in any region at medium/high settings, and loading time for Seattle (with ORBX) is little over one minute. Settings included below, but cange in settings (especially world object) has no affect on loading time. 

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This is really strange. Have you tried setting NVidia threaded optimization (in the driver control panel) to on? This sometimes solves strange issues and this one is really weird.

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  • 3 weeks later...

Thanks FlyAgi, good suggestion, but no luck. Should've mentioned that it was already tried, but with no luck. Currently I have disabled the airport and are living with the default for now. Any more suggestions will be highly appreciated :) 

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Is there any news on that? I also have that problem with the latest version of Bergen. The version before worked just fine with both, ZonePhoto and Aerosoft ENBR enabled.

If I enable the Mesh that comes with ENBR, the long loading time is gone - but I lose the orthos for the tile, obviously.

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Did you try to create a tile with ortho4xp for the ENBR tile? There is an ortho4xp patch file included which seems to work fine for me and orthophotos are pretty good in this region with GO2 source (BI is bad here). I'm currently creating more ortho4xp tiles for the region but so far I had no issues with Bergen, Ortho4xp tiles and X-Europe 4.4, my loading times were pretty good actually.

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So you have the mesh that comes with Bergen disabled as well, correct?

I have not tried to build my own tiles with Ortho4XP for southern Norway yet, because I think the ones from ZonePhoto are fantastic. It's actually the only region in Europe for which I downloaded the tiles instead of building my own, because they are that good. They are from a norwegian image provider I have not yet managed to get working in Ortho4XP myself.

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No, I did not disable the Bergen mesh, i just put the Ortho4xp meshes on top so the Bergen mesh is not loaded, I got a coverage of 4x3 tiles all around Bergen and this worked fine, no loading issues, orthoquality was quite good with GO2. Using only the one zonephoto tile for Bergen I got about endless loading times too, using ortho4xp tiles was no problem.

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Thank you. I will give it a shot with GO2 as well then.

It's still strange, though, I have never seen any problem like that. There must be some weird interaction between the ZonePhoto tile and the airport.

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