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Hello all, UPDATE. I have just discovered that I fibbed when I said that PF3 was not available for FS2004. Whilst I am downloading the demo as I type and will definitely try it out I would still like to download my original purchase. Thanks again Tony

Hello all, Let me please start by admitting that this is the wrong forum and please move if required. I bought PFE for FS2004 in 2011 but never used it mainly because I thought, at the time, it was incredibly complicated to set up ... my bad. However, as I am increasingly using FS2004 due to my ancient hardware making my P3Dv4.3 almost unusable. Again, my bad, but I cannot afford to upgrade just yet and when I do, it will be to accommodate VR. Having made this decision I went looking for a reasonable ATC programme for my FS2004 and the43n remembered PFE. I cannot, however, find it on my computer as a download so I thought a simple re-download. I can not find it though, so I emailed Dave March with my purchase details and he replied overni9ght, that he thought, back in 2011, it would have been purchased through Aerosoft. I now seek some information on how to get access to this download. My order details as follows PFE - ORDER DATE 25/10/2011 (FS2004) ORDER NUMBER DELETED SERIAL NUMBER DELETED (Please note that this serial number is incorrect and incomplete ... for security purposes. I do however, have the correct serial number) I am quite aware that there would probably be no further support for this product but I would like to use it and at least try it out. I do not think PFE3 is an option for FS2004 but I most probably will be buying that for P3D when I upgrade my hardware. Thanks for any information, tips, links or responses. Regards Tony Chilcott

Neal, I took no offence to your posts whatsoever. It is, in reality, quite a normal response. We all have our own perception of what makes a sim platform "right" and what contributes to our sense of immersion. I really do envy people who are very happy with a single screen and maybe use VR or Trackir to intensify their sense of immersion. Those who do, or can, actually enjoy far better graphics, aircraft and other addons in more complex Platforms. Unfortunately for me, I am an old dog who cannot learn these new tricks and enjoy them in this fashion. So,by choice, I "settle" , for now, for immersion of the other factors. Again, if ANYONE can show me the way to use my configuration in P3D or XPlane, I would be vastly appreciative. Thanks for your responses and cheers to all Tony

Hello all again, PatrickZ I conceded in my first post most of what you are saying. You are, of course quite correct. The only point I will NOT concede is the fact that, NO-ONE can or will, show me 6 monitors working on ANY system. If there are people out there in Sim land who are getting good performance on any platform with 6 monitors(other than FS2004) their silence is deafening. I would LOVE to hear from them. I would really, like to know how they do it and what hardware they are using. The only comments I get are that one would need a Supercomputer (I have bids in for the USA Defence computer system LOL) to run it. The makers of FSW, P3Dv4 and XPlane are strangely quiet too and generally do not respond to enquiries of this nature. I have emailed them all. In conclusion, IF you (or anyone) can tell me exactly which system I could buy which is guaranteed to duplicate what I have, I will GLADLY save my pennies to buy this system and join those flocking to P3Dv4 or XPlane permanently. I know 30 FPS is slow but it is far from unusable and it is smooth ... My system is slow and ancient but what would be the point of upgrading to get 50-100 FPS in FS2004 (it wont run the programme any better) and still not get what I want from another platform. I am really open to suggestions and have in fact, been trying to go to other platforms (with this configuration) for years...well, at least since FSX came on the market. I have spent a few dollars buying these platforms but have yet to buy any addons with a couple of exceptions. When P3Dv4 emerged I rushed in and bought ORBX Global and Australian sceneries/airports. I also rushed out and bought the Ifly 737 for P3Dv4 days after it came on the market as an upgrade for P3Dv4. All of these (thus far) have proved a rather expensive and futile purchase. So, YES, I am listening in the vacuum and still attempting the move. Over to you, (the big boys who know) Cheers Tony

Hello all again, I have just voted (I think I have doubled the FS2004 numbers LOL) Cheers Tony

Nealmac, I have not voted and I would assume that many users of various platforms have not either. However, I take your statement "I don't know why anyone would choose not to make the switch." with a healthy grain of salt. I will tell you why I have not made the switch on a permanent basis from FS2004 to P3Dv4 or any of the other platforms (which I own by the way). I fly using 6 monitors. End of story. I get 30+ FPS using those monitors in FS2004. NO other platform will allow me to do that and I very sincerely regard going (upgrading) to another platform 2 which doies not allow me to do this is an actual DOWNGRADE. 6 monitors gives me an incredible immersion factor which is not duplicated with one to three monitors. If any of the other platforms bother to find a way to allow simmers to use more than three monitors without turning it into a slideshow, OR, tell me how I can do it with their platform, I will jump into it with reckless abandon and reckless alacrity. Until then, I will concede ... better graphics .... better lighting ....better, more complex and more varied aircraft .... better weather ... ground services and a myriad of other benefits, none of which singularly or collectively, cancels my immersion factor. Until this happens, I do not want to hear that FS2004 is dead or that I should switch to P3Dv4 The poll though is very interesting if not very informative in that we all know which way the mop is flopping. Cheers and regards to all Tony Chilcott

Hello everyone, I am a newbie. Just downloaded my PFE 2.14 (can't get any newer than that LOL) My first problem... Install installation procedures request email address and serial number. My email address I know. The serial is a very long mixture of everything which I copied from the confirmation email of the order. This was pasted into the serial section and was promptly rejected. Any ideas??? Tony