EGSC9 5 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 I noticed that FIR definitions are no longer valid and outdated for many parts of the world to the extent that I have to manually adjust EET/ when flying in certain regions for filing FPL in online network. Can we expect FIRs update with the next version of PFPX? Best regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vallewipp 4 Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 Dear "EGSC9", can you give an example on which FIR definitions are not valid any more or outdated? Greetings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EGSC9 5 Posted January 25, 2017 Author Share Posted January 25, 2017 On 24/01/2017 at 0:49 PM, vallewipp said: Dear "EGSC9", can you give an example on which FIR definitions are not valid any more or outdated? Greetings For instance the following FIRs in Russia are now encompassing many neighbouring FIRs present in PFPX as separate FIRs: UWWW, USTR, UNNT, UNKL, UIII, UEEE, UHHH, ULLL. Some of these changes have taken place as long as more than 1 year ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vallewipp 4 Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 Let me check and get back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vallewipp 4 Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 The most recent UIR definition update was published on the 07th of January 2016, the next should follow soon. (Thats real data released from Eurocontrol) Here we have following UIR for Russia at the moment: ULMM - Murmansk ULLL - St. Petersburg UMMV - Minsk UUWV - Moscow ULWW - Vologda ULKK - Kotlas ULAA - Arkhangelsk URRV - Rostov-Na-Donu Further east, i am checking right now. Just can you tell me, where from you got the information on the "new" definitions, and which one should be now right! Greetings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vallewipp 4 Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 So hopefully i got now all of them together: ULMM - Murmansk ULAA - Arkhangelsk ULLL - Sankt Peterburg ULWW - Vologda UUWV - Moscow USKK - Kirov UWWW - Samara (also Airport code is the same) USPP - Perm UUYY - Syktyvkar UMKK - Kaliningrad URRV - Rostov USTR - Tyumen (same as airport) USDD - Salekhard USSS - Yekaterinenburg UNNT - Novosibirsk USCC - Chelyabinsk UNKL - Krasnoyarsk UIII - Irkutsk UHHH - Khabarovsk UELL - Chulman UERP - Poliarny UEEE - Yakutsk USDK - Kamenny Mys USDS - Tarko Sale UTAK - Turkmenbashi UTAA - Ashgabat UTAT - Dashoguz UTAV - Turkmenabat UHPP - Petropavlovsk - Kamchatsky UHMM - Magadan UTDD - Dushanbe URFV - Simferopol Those are the most recent UIR and FIR definitions released on the 05th of January 2017 by the Russian CAA. Some of the Airport Codes match the main airport code! Hope that helps a little bit. Otherwise just ask. Greetings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EGSC9 5 Posted January 25, 2017 Author Share Posted January 25, 2017 1 hour ago, vallewipp said: So hopefully i got now all of them together: ULMM - Murmansk ULAA - Arkhangelsk ULLL - Sankt Peterburg ULWW - Vologda UUWV - Moscow USKK - Kirov UWWW - Samara (also Airport code is the same) USPP - Perm UUYY - Syktyvkar UMKK - Kaliningrad URRV - Rostov USTR - Tyumen (same as airport) USDD - Salekhard USSS - Yekaterinenburg UNNT - Novosibirsk USCC - Chelyabinsk UNKL - Krasnoyarsk UIII - Irkutsk UHHH - Khabarovsk UELL - Chulman UERP - Poliarny UEEE - Yakutsk USDK - Kamenny Mys USDS - Tarko Sale UTAK - Turkmenbashi UTAA - Ashgabat UTAT - Dashoguz UTAV - Turkmenabat UHPP - Petropavlovsk - Kamchatsky UHMM - Magadan UTDD - Dushanbe URFV - Simferopol Those are the most recent UIR and FIR definitions released on the 05th of January 2017 by the Russian CAA. Some of the Airport Codes match the main airport code! Hope that helps a little bit. Otherwise just ask. Greetings The following FIRs are still present in PFPX, they are now incorporated into other major FIRs: ULOL UWPP UWKD UWOO UWUU UUYW USHH USRR USUU UNOO UNBB UNIT UENN UEST UHBB UHSS UHMI UIAA Quote Just can you tell me, where from you got the information on the "new" definitions, and which one should be now right! Marco, here is Russian AIP, part ENR: http://www.caiga.ru/common/AirInter/validaip/aip/enr/enr2/1-enr2-1.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vallewipp 4 Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 Yop that's where i took all the FIRs from! And also checked them with our flight planning software in our office! But just for interest, what for you need them? :-) Only the EETs on the ATC fpl? i guess somewhere in PFPX Data folder you can change the definitions! Would need to check where! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EGSC9 5 Posted February 18, 2017 Author Share Posted February 18, 2017 On 25/01/2017 at 10:24 PM, vallewipp said: Yop that's where i took all the FIRs from! And also checked them with our flight planning software in our office! But just for interest, what for you need them? :-) Only the EETs on the ATC fpl? i guess somewhere in PFPX Data folder you can change the definitions! Would need to check where! Vallewip, yes, FIRs EETs are mainly for ATC FPL, but also for situational awareness. I can surely adjust EETs manually, but what's the point of doing this manually given we use payware flight planning system? Developers, please update FIRs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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