[Thank you Aerosoft]

Hello,

 

i agree totally

despite some (minor) issues, at this time the best useful and stable combo is FSHUD & Aerosoft Simple Traffic

it will great enhance FS2020.

 

Best regards

[Major (strange...) Bug since 1.2.2 (not present in 1.2.1)]

12 hours ago, Simple Traffic said:

Some other AI traffic add-ons modify or delete protected internal MSFS files in order to block default MSFS AI models and liveries. Our policy with ST is never to modify internal MSFS files - we will only ever add new files. The upside is system stability because this way ST operates within the rules of the SDK and MSFS Marketplace. The downside is that default liveries may sometimes still appear alongside ST liveries in certain (rare) circumstances.

 

hello, its not the case at all in my example, i drop only an "AIG-OCI-xxxx" folder in community (nothing else) and it works fine for all planes for all 3rd airports, ST don't

but i prefer simple traffic because it's "optimized" for FS and not old FSX stuff.

 

12 hours ago, Simple Traffic said:

You can minimise the selection of non-optimised and non-ST aircraft as AI (airborne and ground) by using the following recommended sim settings:

 

OPTIONS - GENERAL OPTIONS - TRAFFIC - AI AND MULTIPLAYER TRAFFIC DETAIL - USE GENERIC AIRCRAFT MODELS (AI TRAFFIC): ON
OPTIONS - GENERAL OPTIONS - TRAFFIC - AI AND MULTIPLAYER TRAFFIC DETAIL - USE GENERIC AIRCRAFT MODELS (MULTIPLAYER): ON

 

already done but thanks to help.

 

like i said, these issues appears only on 3rd parties airports (also with aerosoft airports)

with default asobo airport there is not any problem at all about ST liveries, ALL planes have ST liveries.

I talk only about "Ground aircraft density" option which put not moving aircraft at airports.

 

best regards, thanks to help

[Major (strange...) Bug since 1.2.2 (not present in 1.2.1)]

On 8/8/2022 at 7:55 PM, mopperle said:

Which is correct. Static aircraft come with the scenery and ST can not change those aircraft. Only those that are placed by MSFS

 

But I think you both are not talking about static aircraft, but the slider "GROUND AIRCRAFT DENSITY". And if this slider is not set to zero as mentioned in the manual, you will indeed see default models with default liveries.

 

So nothing is wrong with ST or needs to be fixed.

 

 

I disagree there is something to tweaks and you should take a look please. Random liveries don't means default asobo liveries, it means that you can have a Simple Traffic JAPAN plane at a regional france airport.

i dont' know at all why you posted screenshots with AI Traffic and told me no issues or your side, my first post was clear about what i used: "I usually activate "Airport Ground aircraft" to 100"

 

with MS AI traffic disabled and MS online traffic disabled:

a free(!) product like "aig-aitraffic-oci-beta" liveries works fine at EBBR or others airports with "ground aircraft density" slider above 0 and ALL planes have random liveries (no problem) but there are from AIG mod folder's liveries not default asobo's.

so if it's was an MSFS issue, like with Simple traffic, there would be some aircraft with good liveries and others with asobo liveries, it's not the case at all with "aig-aitraffic-oci-beta". ZERO plane with default asobo liveries.

I have not used at all AIG AItraffic controller utility which inject AI aircraft (i didn't use it), i tried only "aig-aitraffic-oci-beta" folder which contains liveries like simple traffic contains also liveries. 

so no external/internal AI ingame, just "Airport Ground aircraft" used.

 

so you should take a look at ST please, maybe there is something missing or to tweak in BGL files.

and like i said and seem forgotten... 1.2.1 was working better, less planes with default asobo liveries.

 

and VERY important thing ! this "ground aircraft density" issue seem to appear with third party airport, not default airport

 

Aerosoft EBBR

lots of planes have not any liveries

.

 

 

default ASOBO airport

All plane have liveries ! good

 

 

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[Major (strange...) Bug since 1.2.2 (not present in 1.2.1)]

9 hours ago, RogePete said:

Jepp, me too. Saw it in EDDK (Aerosoft) for example. It seems there are mainly stock A380 liveries (but also some other planes). I think this happens if you (like the OP mentioned) turn on static traffic in the sim settings. Which I do too. Cause at least in Europe, the online AI traffic doesn't populate the airports very much. So, to have some (more) planes docked at gates gives a more realistic sight of airports. Never saw a moving stock livery though. I wonder why the sim chooses the default liveries at all and I wonder if there's a quick and easy way to completely deactivate those.

i'am not alone

Simple traffic works fine with AI traffic and online traffic but not with static aircraft.

Thanks for your post RogePete

 

@Mopperle, is it static aircraft on your screen or AI traffic ?

because like you see below, i have not any problem with AI traffic (LSGG example)

 

[Major (strange...) Bug since 1.2.2 (not present in 1.2.1)]

no i have only simple traffic for planes

i tested also with only simple traffic and aerosoft EBBR and FENIX A320, nothing else in community folder 

 

your screenshot are with aerosoft EBBR ?

[Major (strange...) Bug since 1.2.2 (not present in 1.2.1)]

hope you have it

Aerosoft ! EBBR

see screenshot please

 

Aerosoft EBBR

lots of planes have not any liveries

.

 

 

default ASOBO airport

All plane have liveries ! good

 

hope you will find fixes

best regards

 

[Major (strange...) Bug since 1.2.2 (not present in 1.2.1)]

see attached

1.2.2 all without Liveries.... (apart my plane)

LFLL from digital design

 

1.2.1 works fine with very few planes without liveries at the same airport

 

[Major (strange...) Bug since 1.2.2 (not present in 1.2.1)]

i found explanation

 

default asobo airport LFLL and LFBO

1.2.1 works fine for all planes

1.2.2 works fine for all planes

 

juste 2 examples:

Digital design LFLL

1.2.1 works fine with only few planes without liveries

1.2.2 works very bad with "all" planes without liveries

 

Flightbeam LFBO

1.2.1 works fine with few planes without liveries

1.2.2 works very bad with "all" planes (at the gate) without liveries

 

 

what did you change between 1.2.1 and 1.2.2 ? (apart adding skins)

fyi AIG-OCI free liveries (without using traffic utility) works fine with 3rd party airport.

 

i never had such issues with prior versions (1.2.1, 1.2.0) . i bought Simple traffic day one and fly only with 3rd airport i bought or download @flightsim.to

 

 

so with 1.2.1 there are very more planes with simple traffic deliveries than with 1.2.2 at 3rd party airport (no issue with default asobo aiport)

 

very strange issue.

best regards

 

 

 

[Major (strange...) Bug since 1.2.2 (not present in 1.2.1)]

Hello

 

I usually activate "Airport Ground aircraft" to 100

I know very well, it use random texture, it's not a problem for me.

 

but here is the bug

1.2.0 version is working fine, lots of planes (jet airliners) with liveries

1.2.1 version is working fine, lots of planes (jet airliners) with liveries

with 1.2.2 version, on same airports, lots of plane (jet airliners) without liveries 

 

so i use 1.2.1 at this time

 

best regards