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Very disappointing I must say, especially with the online flying statement and unspecified systems needed for online flying not being implemented. Not sure what the point of the website was, to be honest. It's one thing that this aircraft won't be of any use for transoceanic flights and procedures at launch which they have already informed us of, it's another thing for it not to be able to handle continental normal procedures flying. That puts the product, and by extension Aerosoft, in a different category of addon developers, one most likely not having the visitors in these forums as their target customers.
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5 hours ago, Scandfox said:
Why not sit down and just relax and take a BusRide with the Freeware and get fully trained in the procedures f.e. D I F R I P S which is a must if you want fly correctly.
Ah indeed - well kind of. I think part of the curiosity people have is to understand the extent at which procedures can be replicated in the Aerosoft A330. For example, based on answers from Mathijs, we already know that typical Oceanic NAT/HLA operations and procedures typical of an A330 cannot be replicated, because features you would need to do that are not included in the initial release.
This brings us to DIFRIPS, or to be more current, DIFSRIPS these days. We know that the secondary flight plan function will not be available on release, and we do not know and have not seen any full flight or setup on the A330 yet. This is because although there have been indications that the goal is to have this released this summer, there have not been any videos of actual flights in it from the tech team/beta testers.
In short, we do not know what procedures can even be replicated, so you can study all the things you think you must in order to be able to operate it, but for all you know, you might not need most of them depending on what Aerosoft delivers.
I am excited about this and watching closely, but I am also cautious about getting my hopes high in terms of the complexity we have to expect. I know that Aerosoft builds their Airbuses by modeling day-to-day operations with no bells and whistles or more advanced, but more rarely used features. From what we know so far, the Aerosoft A330 will not meet even that standard in terms of complexity. No secondary flight plans, no custom/user waypoints, no SLOP, and no possibility to enter time markers. We also know no Hoppies integration on release, so no CDPLC. Add to that the unavoidable limitations dictated by the MSFS such as the lack of a weather radar.
I am not that much interested in the "when". I am interested in the "what". What are the expected features that will be available on release? What will be missing? This will help us understand what Aerosoft is building, and also who is it building it for.
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51 minutes ago, Tom A320 said:Hermans post earlier today was quite clear: please stay on topic, i.e. A330.
Posts deviating from topic will get hidden from public view.
Right - so how is that A330 going?
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Very excited to see this coming up nicely, and I really, really appreciate the professionalism, transparency, and open communication from Aerosoft here. Shows a lot of respect for the community and it does not go unnoticed. Very rare to come across in this business.
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The updates look great. I don't get the constant request for a release date. It makes no difference. When it makes sense for them to announce it, they will. When they do, you will know as it will make its way through all flight simulator channels and sites pretty quickly. I hope they don't feel pressured and take their time refining things for as long as it makes business sense to them. There are things I hope they add following the release to enable a good simulation of NAT/HLA ops, but these are complex simulations. Not only do they have to simulate the aircraft's complex systems and interfaces, but they have to make sure it is usable within the constraints of a desktop/console simulator and provide a good user experience. It takes time. As usual, 20% of things will take 80% of the time. It makes no sense for them to give time estimates. They can say they are 95% done, but that in software development does not mean much in terms of time.
What actually happens most of the time is that they will give an estimate of release once development has finished. They are estimating the logistics, marketing, and customer support setup around delivery at that point, not development time. Do they have an optimistic time range in mind? Probably, but they have been in business for way too long to shoot themselves in the foot by announcing it.
They have been great with updates and all, so it is closer than it was last week, but not happening next week.
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A couple of questions:
Will lateral offsets (i.e. for SLOP) be possible? I searched and saw this asked a couple of times, but did not see an answer there.
Will we be able to add custom/user-defined waypoints in the MCDU?
Will the secondary flight plan function be implemented?
CDPLC - yes it was asked, but there is a standard, old as it is, via Hoppies. This is what all other add-ons and all controllers on VATSIM use. So in a way, it is a standard. Is it still the case that it will not include any integration on the release?
Might be that my shortcomings are not helping me find the answers if already given, so sorry if all was answered before.
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I find Aerosoft to be one of the more transparent when it comes to development previews. They will release when they decide it is the right time and they don't have blocking issues identified. It would be unfair for the developers to work with a hard deadline over their heads. I appreciate that most of the developers don't give out release dates until they are very close to it, and let their teams do what they do best, and focus on building the product. I am very excited and look forward to the A330. The screenshots so far look great. Texturing on the cockpit had a great balance of wear and tear, and it had it in the right places. I believe systems simulation will be the typical routine flight operations Aerosoft is great at modeling.
It releases when it releases, we can ask questions about features that will be implemented and so on to learn more about the product, but I would hold back from continuously asking about release dates.
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Great model :-) It takes a little time for 3DMax to render that though, not much though. Thanks for sharing the render, it shows more of the quality work and processes behind the scenes.
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There is really nothing Aerosoft should worry about. We spend more shopping on Aerosoft products than we do on purchasing the FS platform itself, and there are good reasons for that. There is also a great approach towards the sim community involvement by Aerosoft in terms of discussions about various features. This works better than releasing a teaser trailer for us to see. It also gives us a sense of ownership towards the product that is different from the usual FS purchase. I am not that excited about this upcoming title from MS. I am definitely looking forward to the Aerosoft project though, the whole process looks very promising to me.
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Aerosoft Aircraft - A330 Preview
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I think the thing to understand is that most of the reaction is one of disappointment. People that expected more of Aerosoft, or something to be communicated better. The way the product page was setup it led people to believe that the product is of lower quality than people who trust Aerosoft or have been old customers of theirs expect.
I do appreciate how this was handled by Aerosoft though, and Tom's message above is one that reflects a sound organization with proper consideration for its customers. Mishaps happen, and companies with deeper pockets than Aerosoft have had worse launches. If Tom's message is an indication of things to come, then I think that we are on a good path.
Yes, the disappointment comes from a place of love and appreciation for Aerosoft, who also develops, supports, and delivers other amazing products beyond the A330, which has not been released yet. I am guilty myself of being fast to react to this and being a bit harsher than I usually am, but many people have worked too long and I don't want to be in their place reading this forum, commenting on something they have not launched yet.
Even when it does launch, it is more of a question of being straightforward with the feature list on launch and things will improve with time. I suggest everybody calms down, cut the people behind the avatars you see on the forum some slack, and give them a chance to make this right.