srcooke 421 Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 You really need to post the ATC plan Vernon, chances are your on a LOW Airway on initial departure but without the relevant info I cannot tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driver170 6 Posted October 1, 2015 Author Share Posted October 1, 2015 [ ATC FLIGHT PLAN ]--------------------------------------------------------------------FF EUCHZMFP EUCBZMFP011342 EDDFRYRX(FPL-RYR1195-IN-B738/M-SDGIRWY/SB1-EGGP1430-N0359F230 NANTI UL8 STAFA P18 TELBA/N0443F410 UL151 MID DCT XAMAB UL612 RESMI UM975 PIBAT DCT LUSAR-LSGG0132 LSZH-PBN/ A1B1C1D1S2 NAV/RNVD1E2A1 COM/TCAS DOF/151001 REG/RYR EET/LFFF0034 LFEE0119 LFMM0121 LSAS0130 RVR/200 OPR/ VRYREU-E/0238) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srcooke 421 Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 P18 is a lower level airway max FL245 hence you were capped at FL230 until TELBA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driver170 6 Posted October 1, 2015 Author Share Posted October 1, 2015 In the real world will pilots be cleared higher ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srcooke 421 Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Not necessarily will, could be.Your route validates:(FPL-DAERA-IN-B738/M-SDE1FGHIJ1RWXYZ/LB1-EGGP1440-N0439F230 NANTI L8 STAFA P18 TELBA/N0456F370 UL151 MID UL612 RESMI UM975 PIMUP/N0458F270 UM975 PIBAT/N0450F230 UM975 LUSAR-LSGG0133 LFLL-PBN/A1B1C1D1L1O1S1 NAV/RNVD1E2A1 DOF/151001 REG/DAERA EET/LFFF0034 LFEE0119 LFMM0122 LSAS0131 RVR/200 OPR/EUROSTAR AVIATION VA PER/C RMK/EUROSTAR / CPDLC /-E/0239) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driver170 6 Posted October 1, 2015 Author Share Posted October 1, 2015 How did you do that so quick? Any tips.,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srcooke 421 Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 By having a copy of the UK Standard Route Document and the EuroControl RAD to hand and persisting to validate routes over time.Sometimes it pays to turn off RAD filtering in PFPX and resolve the issues yourself, other times PFPX may give a valid route straight off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driver170 6 Posted October 1, 2015 Author Share Posted October 1, 2015 Damn it you need microsoft excel to open most of them ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srcooke 421 Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Both the UK SRD and the EuroControl Consolidated RAD docs are in PDF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driver170 6 Posted October 1, 2015 Author Share Posted October 1, 2015 Its showing a green X for excel for me? Please login to display this image. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srcooke 421 Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 The first document, Consolidated PDF, red. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driver170 6 Posted October 1, 2015 Author Share Posted October 1, 2015 but what about the rest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driver170 6 Posted October 1, 2015 Author Share Posted October 1, 2015 How did you find the altitude cap on P18 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srcooke 421 Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 The consolidated document contains all the data.PFPX capped the level on P18 as its a lower airway. Hover the mouse over P18 with lower airways enabled and you'll see the data or check in the route editor summary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Crocodile 4 Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 How did you find the altitude cap on P18 ?Hi, you can find it on UK AIP ENR 3.1 "Lower ATS Routes" accessible from EAD Eurocontrol by a free registration.In there you could find P18 upper limit FL245 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driver170 6 Posted October 1, 2015 Author Share Posted October 1, 2015 Hi, you can find it on UK AIP ENR 3.1 "Lower ATS Routes" accessible from EAD Eurocontrol by a free registration.In there you could find P18 upper limit FL245Brilliant thankyou already know about that. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction ;) The consolidated document contains all the data.PFPX capped the level on P18 as its a lower airway. Hover the mouse over P18 with lower airways enabled and you'll see the data or check in the route editor summary.Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heidem 5 Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Hi, you can find it on UK AIP ENR 3.1 "Lower ATS Routes" accessible from EAD Eurocontrol by a free registration.In there you could find P18 upper limit FL245UK documents can also be accessed on http://www.nats-uk.ead-it.com/public/index.php%3Foption=com_content&task=blogcategory&id=165&Itemid=3.html without a registration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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