Driver170 6 Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Not sure if these step climbs are right? i thought SWeven? FL STEPS EGPH/380 BERUX/390 OBESA/410As you can see 380 is even and correct FL then a step climb at BERUX FL390 which is ODD and FL41) which is ODD? ROUTING:ROUTE ID: EDITFS1EGPH/24 GOSA1C GOSAM P600 TRN..DEGOS..EVBAK..TAMEL T213BERUX..PETEK..OBESA..ORTIS OR3DCG GCTS/08 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srcooke 421 Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 No it is correct, ODD FL southbound in Spain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driver170 6 Posted September 22, 2015 Author Share Posted September 22, 2015 Cool do you have a reference i can read? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srcooke 421 Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 RVSM airspace of Spain, Portugal, France and Italy operate a North/South rule rather than East/West, Southbound traffic ODD FL's and Northbound Even.Additionally you can check the EuroControl RAD Appendix 4 for the FRA requirements of LECM control area applicable to your entry at BERUX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driver170 6 Posted September 22, 2015 Author Share Posted September 22, 2015 Thanks for the reply. Can't find anything about noth and south? Only SWeven and NEodd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcubine 15 Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Search the Internet for http://www.nm.eurocontrol.int/RAD/ AIRAC 1510 and go from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srcooke 421 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Post the complete ATC plan please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driver170 6 Posted September 30, 2015 Author Share Posted September 30, 2015 it wont let me copy and paste DEGO..SHA..UNLID..GUNSO..OMOKO T16 NAVIX..SNT I think its right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srcooke 421 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 OK, my previous post wasn't clear enough.LISBOA operates the North/South rule whereas your flightplan for EGPF-LPMA passes through the Santa Maria sector which retains East/West.The even level for your route would be correct, apologies for the lack of clarity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driver170 6 Posted September 30, 2015 Author Share Posted September 30, 2015 So from EGPF its even SWeven and from santa maria is the same east/west! But from gonan i'm kind still heading west shouldn't it be odd? sorry trying to make sense of the tracks and directions! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srcooke 421 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 West is even FL, your route in to Santa Maria airspace maintains the East/West rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driver170 6 Posted September 30, 2015 Author Share Posted September 30, 2015 So santa maria is odd in the east direction? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srcooke 421 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 That is correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driver170 6 Posted September 30, 2015 Author Share Posted September 30, 2015 Looking at it seems to be more like south / slightly west direction? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srcooke 421 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 SW Minimum 188deg = even FL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driver170 6 Posted September 30, 2015 Author Share Posted September 30, 2015 Do you have a list of all countrys? Have you been on this - https://www.ead.eurocontrol.int/publicuser/public/pu/login.jsp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srcooke 421 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Tango 16 airway is designated ODD FL, overriding the RVSM Oceanic airspace which can be found in the Eurocontrol AIP for Portugal.So PFPX should have and does here assign an odd FL from GONAN:(FPL-DAERA-IN-B738/M-SDE1FGHIJ1RWXYZ/LB1-EGPF1415-N0452F240 NORBO L186 TRN N552 MAC/N0456F360 DCT ERNAN DCT GUNSO/M079F360 DCT OMOKO T16 GONAN/M079F370 T16 NAVIX DCT NIKAV-LPMA0336 LPPS-PBN/A1B1C1D1L1O1S1 NAV/RNVD1E2A1 DOF/150930 REG/DAERA EET/EISN0026 EGGX0055 LPPO0145 LPPC0305 RVR/200 OPR/EUROSTAR AVIATION VA PER/C RMK/EUROSTAR / CPDLC /-E/0455) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driver170 6 Posted September 30, 2015 Author Share Posted September 30, 2015 That link i sent takes you to all the countrys AIP, check it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srcooke 421 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Been using it for a long time Vernon, back in the days of Flight Operation Centre, to resolve CFMU validation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driver170 6 Posted September 30, 2015 Author Share Posted September 30, 2015 CFMU validation? I gave up on that takes too long. You change one thing and it messes up the other Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driver170 6 Posted September 30, 2015 Author Share Posted September 30, 2015 Ahh sounds like you done it for real? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driver170 6 Posted September 30, 2015 Author Share Posted September 30, 2015 Thanks i have learn't something today :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srcooke 421 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 For Portugal ( LISBOA FRA ) RVSM check the EuroControl AIP, ENR, section 1.7.5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driver170 6 Posted September 30, 2015 Author Share Posted September 30, 2015 Please login to display this image. Got it thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driver170 6 Posted October 1, 2015 Author Share Posted October 1, 2015 Question - PFPX sometimes restricts me to FL230 for a short while during climb? Then i resume my Cruise alt. What restriction is this? EGGP / LSGG.Also if i plan a flight from EGCC to EGPH and its under FL290 RVSM east / west still applys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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