jaguado 53 Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 So I was on approach to Punta Cana MDPC and I was going to do the ARC/DME approach to runway 09, but VOR1 would not find the VOR I had tuned, where as VOR2 would? (see screenshot) I was able to do the approach using VOR2. Thanx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaguado 53 Posted December 6, 2014 Author Share Posted December 6, 2014 Anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mladen 55 Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Hi! I had this problem randomly with AXE (usually when destination airport had no ILS), but not with the new A318/19/20/21 until now. Sometimes the problem was rectified if I entered the VOR data into ILS fields on RAD/NAV page and the VOR 1 started working (not always). Mladen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaguado 53 Posted December 6, 2014 Author Share Posted December 6, 2014 Interesting... will try it next time. The real question is, bug or limitation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uadriver 6 Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 javier my thinking is that your selected vor is a terminal / low en-route one ... which are not received beyond about 40nm (this is a real world thing well modelled by fsx in most cases, just as you can't receive vor's on the ground other than the airport's) so, did you notice vor1 become active closer in during your approach ?? as for why your vor2 is active at 72nm ...... i've seen that before in many aircraft & have "guessed" that somehow fsx is not properly coded in vor2 tuning to differentiate reception range between high & low / terminal vors !! let us know on para 2. cheers john Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaguado 53 Posted December 6, 2014 Author Share Posted December 6, 2014 I didn't notice it picking it up as I got closer, I just used VOR 2. Anyone from Aerosoft care to comment on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uadriver 6 Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 javier what is detailed from a google earth list of fsx vor's !! cheers john Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaguado 53 Posted December 7, 2014 Author Share Posted December 7, 2014 So I shouldn't have picked it up so early then... Thanx guys for the info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mladen 55 Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 I don't think it has anything to do with distance off the VOR. If you input same data for VOR1 and VOR2 and only VOR2 correctly indicates the bearing, then something is wrong with VOR1 receiver, as they should have identical bearing displays. Mladen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uadriver 6 Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 javier not on vor 2 @ 72nm ..... vor 2 is in my opinion a tad flawed (apart from the mixup of ident volume rotaries in this airbus since the original X in 2010). as i mentioned above, you should only receive "line of sight" signals when on the ground (the airport's vor if there is one) & not others over the hill so to speak and as in your case (PNA) when airborne not beyond their range !! for example @ ksfo at the gate, you should / do receive SFO on both but not PYE (about 50nm away) on either - but you can on vor2. i wonder if it is fixed in P3D ?? cheers john Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaguado 53 Posted December 8, 2014 Author Share Posted December 8, 2014 The real question is... Am I supposed to see that VOR or not? Wich radio is correct? I use the tropical sim MDPC, but I don't think they modify the stock VOR's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uadriver 6 Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 javier http://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/publications/atpubs/aim/aim0101.html#ncG212JACK & http://www.aero.sors.fr/index.html may help !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaguado 53 Posted December 8, 2014 Author Share Posted December 8, 2014 Thanx uadriver, more or less I know how the VOR works, Just wondering why radio nav 1 doesn't see it, but Radio nav 2 does. I'll test other aircraft and see what happens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uadriver 6 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 javier i cant' replicate your situation (without the TS addon) ...i can only encourage you to: interogate the vor with easynavs & check the range setting or do a departure & check if vor1 receives PNA beyonf 40nm ,,,, as well as check an ident is heard on vor2 ?? if you can't receive PNA on the ground and / or to 40nm on vor1, then my thinking is wrong ?? cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaguado 53 Posted December 9, 2014 Author Share Posted December 9, 2014 On the ground, by the runway, both radios work... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uadriver 6 Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 & airborne ?? john Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaguado 53 Posted December 11, 2014 Author Share Posted December 11, 2014 I haven't had time, I need to actually get on the air and put distance between me and the airport. I'm flying to England in real life this weekend, so i won't have time for a while to do a full flight. Will try again at some point next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uadriver 6 Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 safe travels then ...!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaguado 53 Posted December 11, 2014 Author Share Posted December 11, 2014 Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotflieger 32 Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 FSX is designed with 2 VORs (VOR1 and VOR2) but allows VOR1 to be used for ILS. The Aerosoft Airbus appears to permanently assign VOR1 to ILS making VOR1 itself (as entered by the Nav Radio page) unusable. The only alternative is to use VOR2 for any DME navigation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerosoft Aerosoft Team [Inactive Account] 51558 Posted December 11, 2014 Aerosoft Share Posted December 11, 2014 Of course the Bus does not use VOR navigation a lot, it can't even follow a radial as even a basic Cessna can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotflieger 32 Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 After some investigation for the next update of the LINDA Airbus module I have discovered the following information which corrects my previous post. FSX has 2 VORs (VOR1 and VOR2). FSX's VOR1 is used permanently on the Aerosoft Airbus' for ILS and is used to feed the PFD ILS data and arrows and for the ND ILS display. FSX's VOR2 is used for the Airbus' VOR1 and for the ND VOR DME display. I have yet to work out how to use the Airbus' VOR2 with LINDA but some of the Lvars are accessible. Further research is required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uadriver 6 Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Scotflieger firstly, thanks again for your LINDA script on the airbus. i too have been hunting the LVars for nav radios, but with very limited skills & less results !! from what I see in the cockpit, all work "visually" except that vor2 does not differentiate between low & high range reception as coded in fsx ... ie as per javier's experience, PNA is received on vor2 well beyond its 38nm range. what does not seem to work "correctly" - as you partly mentioned - is that ils1 ident is heard by a simultaneous turning of both vor1/ils1 volume rotaries vor1 ident is using vor2 volume rotary there is no vor2 ident there is adf1 ident but no adf2 ident i hope this helps with your research. at the moment i am using fsx controls for what idents can be found. cheers john Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaguado 53 Posted December 11, 2014 Author Share Posted December 11, 2014 Interesting conversation... thanx for the info guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaguado 53 Posted December 11, 2014 Author Share Posted December 11, 2014 I don't know if this helps, but I was able to perfectly perform the ARC DME approach using the VOR2 radio... (Should have tried VOR1 as I got clsoer to the airport I guess...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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