MWR 36 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 FSX acceleration. Windows 7 64bit Profesional. English language. (U.K.). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrea1 12 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Hi Folks, Yesterday I've done a test myelf using a 319IAE and I've performed a EIDW-EINN short flight (156 pax 4 tons of cargo and 5 tons of fuel, FL150); I've AS Next. I've choosen that route because there was a really bad weather there yerterday, especially in Shannon area it was thunderstorming, raining etc.etc, beautiful coloured "pictures" showed onto my WXR radar screen almost all the flight. I performed an autoland w/o any problem... The previous flight, before updating to the last autothrottle.xml hotfix, I got stalled just after takeoff.... According to me what many of you are experimenting in those days is also due to a problem in the interface between airbus A/T system and ASN turbulence..two days ago I've reduced my ASN max turbulence setting and wake turbulence effect (I set now 30% for "general turbulence setting" and 5% for "wake turbulence") because last week I had a series of problems during manual Landing with my PMDG NGX (often the plane rolled to the right abruptly just few second before Landing) and according to me it could be an interference between the erratic way that ASN uses to "inject" the turbulence in FSX and the A/T system (maybe a little slow to react) to cause the most part of troubles..anyway now it seems to go better... My system: HP Pavillion 8311 (2010) 1 Tb hard disk, OS: Win 7 64 bytes, RAM: 8 Gb, video card: ATI Radeon 5450 1Gb. Best Regards Andrea Buono Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyrideruk 4 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 I don't have ASN, but I do have unacceptable A/T behaviour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWR 36 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 I also don't have ASN and have unacceptable A/T behaviour. I nearly posted 'I'm Spartacus' there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxhades 15 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 turbulence settings at the moment 50, i will test is with 40,30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7LD 0 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Same problem, after installing HF 1.21c with A320 IAE, especially on the final approach unstable speed, and with "speed, speed" call outs. Any chance to back HF 1.21 b ? Kind Regards,. Levent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sprowse 8 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 I have seen some improvement with this issue when using 1.12c and the fix given here in this thread. It would also be helpful if we could all say what system etc we are using, I'm using FSX+ASN+1.12c+AT fix. I'm still not sure if Aerosoft actually think there is a problem here, we've had scant input from anyone, just the 'fix' from Joshua and, until now, no follow up. Cheers Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobJaworski 1 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 FSX+ASN+1.12c+AT fix. Still receiving a severe swing when leveling off at cruise altitude. Goes between 85% N1 and idle about 2 or 3 times. Using the A320 IAE model. Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connye 6 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 FSX, Windows 7 64-bit, no ASN, 1.21c, not using the latest ATH fix. And have the same problems! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airbus339 129 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 I think this thread is a bit confusing.... maybe better to open a new one Inviato dal mio GT-I9300 utilizzando Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxhades 15 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Fps 22-25, Asn, 1.21cfix +ATH fix, testet with and without ASN, diffrent flighlevels=swinging trust and extreme sensetiv against ASN in turbulence! A319 IAE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWR 36 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 I suspect it would also be very useful if people actually reported which exact variant of the airbus they were having the issue with as this would put a spotlight on that particular variation that may help Aerosoft detect what is causing this issue. Also, there are repeated postings from ASN users who think it's entirely a problem unique to them but, as a number of posters point out, it really isn't. It would be helpful if there was a little more official comment on this particular thread as it is pretty obvious there are a number of people suffering from this issue. I suspect Joshua is monitoring it but may well be spending his time working on a solution for all we know. Personally I'd rather he was doing that and another moderator did the 'communicating'. Just going back to the Airbus variants that suffer from this problem. Personally I have only had time to test the A319 but have found that the A319IAE has an issue but the A319CFM performs pretty much spot on. How about you guys? Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinh 6 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Hi Folks, Yesterday I've done a test myelf using a 319IAE and I've performed a EIDW-EINN short flight (156 pax 4 tons of cargo and 5 tons of fuel, FL150); I've AS Next. I've choosen that route because there was a really bad weather there yerterday, especially in Shannon area it was thunderstorming, raining etc.etc, beautiful coloured "pictures" showed onto my WXR radar screen almost all the flight. I performed an autoland w/o any problem... The previous flight, before updating to the last autothrottle.xml hotfix, I got stalled just after takeoff.... According to me what many of you are experimenting in those days is also due to a problem in the interface between airbus A/T system and ASN turbulence..two days ago I've reduced my ASN max turbulence setting and wake turbulence effect (I set now 30% for "general turbulence setting" and 5% for "wake turbulence") because last week I had a series of problems during manual Landing with my PMDG NGX (often the plane rolled to the right abruptly just few second before Landing) and according to me it could be an interference between the erratic way that ASN uses to "inject" the turbulence in FSX and the A/T system (maybe a little slow to react) to cause the most part of troubles..anyway now it seems to go better... My system: HP Pavillion 8311 (2010) 1 Tb hard disk, OS: Win 7 64 bytes, RAM: 8 Gb, video card: ATI Radeon 5450 1Gb. Best Regards Andrea Buono Andrea, I know what I'm reporting and it's nothing to do with ASN turbulence. I tested with ASN off. Post ATHR fix my problem is with the A320/321 with no weather at all. Please don't assume you know what other people are experiencing. For people complaining the Aerosoft Airbus can't cope with ASN turbulence, with respect that isn't Aerosoft's problem and it's pointless reporting it. Just turn the turbulence down to a reasonable level. At 100% turbulence is ridiculously overdone in ASN. I use 25% which works well, at least it did before the A/T problems started with the A320/321 release. However if the Aerosoft Airbus A/T can't cope in still air it has no chance in real weather conditions, ASN or otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxhades 15 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 you are right! a turbulence setting with sensetive addons between 30-50 feels more realitic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catmar1944 1 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Just flown egpe-egkk-egpe using the cfm a319 and experienced both oscillation at cruise and inability to track speed at low altitides. Selected 160 knots when 10nm out of Gatwick winds 230/10 and the speed was between 140-200 knots. On short finals when the altitude was in managed mode the speed kept on dropping too low causing the "speed speed speed" warning. I have had several flights now (using 1.21c and Airbus 320CFM) with same result of the speed warning when using a managed approach. New to big iron, just confirming what CaptOwen is seeing, so I'll keep quiet now until a resolution has been found. Thanks Clive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kort 3 Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 I use Opus WX engine and had used joshua's fix. Now the A/THR control logic had been improved,but still have problem. (Solved) 1.Speed command now could be satisfied in A/THR "SPEED" mode during approach. (Unsolved) 1.Managed descent with "Selected" speed When using managed descent with selected sped, as the aircraft pitched up to cater to V/DEV scale, airspeed drops while A/THR stays in IDLE mode. Then the A/THR stayed at IDLE mode for a while until speed gets too low below desired figure. Then A/THR change to "SPEED" mode and add power aggressively. This cause airspeed overshoots FCU label and trigger overspeed warnings. I think this problem is caused by the late mode change between SPEED and IDLE, which resulted in unstable speed control during managed descend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PikalaxALT 19 Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Indeed, the FMS seems incapable of compensating for the great delay in response from the P&W IAE engines compared with the response from the GE CFM engines. CFM engines react almost immediately to a new thrust command, whereas IAE engines lag significantly behind the throttle levers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Wopp 172 Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 Hi folks, I have tested now the airbus with manual flight but with autothrust on. The thrust definitely acting to slow, when turbulences occur. And that may cause the problems when the cruiselevel is 190. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sprowse 8 Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 I think it is now fair to say that Hotfix 1.21c is a pile of pants with regards to AT control on all segments of flight I've dumped 1.21 and gone back to 1.11. What we all want is some sort of answer from Aerosoft!!! ASN imo is not involved with this issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyrideruk 4 Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 I quite agree: this has gone on long enough & I've never had this issue with any other third-party add-ons. Can you just fix it, please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWR 36 Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 I went to a Pink Floyd tribute band concert the other day and couldn't help thinking that a 'slightly changed' version of the first two verses of 'Comfortably Numb' from the Wall fitted our current situation.... Hello? Is there anybody in there? Just nod if you can hear me. Is there anyone at home? Come on, now, We’re feeling down. Well you can ease our pain Get us on our feet again. Relax. You’ll need some information first. Just the basic facts. We’re trying to show you where it hurts. There is no input and you’re receding A distant ship, smoke on the horizon. You’re not even coming through in waves. Your lips don’t move so we can't hear what you're saying. When I was a child I had a flight sim But my hands were just like two balloons. Now I've got that feeling once again I’m trying to explain we don’t know if you understand This is not how I am. We have become uncomfortably numb. Sorry PF! Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyrideruk 4 Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 Mike: Excellent! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sprowse 8 Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 Mike; please Aerosoft say something Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxhades 15 Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 i am sure the are working on that! I am angry too because i like the bus and i want to fly! Hope a fix will come soon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sprowse 8 Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 Ah.... Guys... the penny has just dropped; Aerosoft can't say anything....it would be like saying 'I know my latest version doesn't work as advertised, but I'm still going to selling it to you, oh and the Hotfix; well it's best you don't install it'.....they can't see what I mean......we'll just have to wait for SP3. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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