Gustavo Hernandez 0 Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Hi, just used KJFK airport and I detected that departures never disappear from screen. Just added a pic to let you see it. regards Gustavo Hernandez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martijn Coenen 9 Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Noticed this to lately. You have to direct those to their end point with a DIRECT command. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tumbi 2 Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Noticed this to lately. You have to direct those to their end point with a DIRECT command.And often you can't do this with mouse because that end point does not appear on the screen! It is only after you type the D command that the fix appears. These are aircraft that do not depart via a SID. I suppose that is normal to have some departing without using the SID? Yes, the SID option is ticked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gustavo Hernandez 0 Posted February 26, 2014 Author Share Posted February 26, 2014 Hi, thanks for your help. Will try using D command. regards Gustavo Hernandez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martijn Coenen 9 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 And often you can't do this with mouse because that end point does not appear on the screen! It is only after you type the D command that the fix appears. These are aircraft that do not depart via a SID. I suppose that is normal to have some departing without using the SID? Yes, the SID option is ticked. You can enable the navigation points if you want. Are you using navdata files or the default database? I use the latest navdata files and I don't have this issue at JFK right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tumbi 2 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 You can enable the navigation points if you want. Are you using navdata files or the default database? I use the latest navdata files and I don't have this issue at JFK right now. I am using the default, but that end fix must be in there because it pops up as soon as I enter the DIRECT command? Enabling navigation points will light up the nav-aids like VOR and NDB but not the "fixes". Edit: I need to clarify this, now that I have investigated further. I have found this particular FIX will show up on the screen if I tick ALL (resulting in a somewhat cluttered screen) but if I tick only the SIDs for the active departure runway, that FIX does not appear. Further testing shows this FIX is included in a SID for another runway! But aircraft departing from the active runway can still plan to depart via this "hidden" FIX. In that case, the only way to get the aircraft to that FIX is to use the DIRECT command, specifying the name of that FIX. I think this is a bug and the FIX should be displayed so the mouse can be used. Maybe when Robert implements the enhancement to display the full planned track for the selected aircraft, this problem will disappear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martijn Coenen 9 Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 This is a nice one for Robert: When generating departures, are the all SIDs considered or only those for the departing runway? The post above by tumbi suggests a departing plane is assigned to a sid not available for that runway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tumbi 2 Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 This is a nice one for Robert: When generating departures, are the all SIDs considered or only those for the departing runway? The post above by tumbi suggests a departing plane is assigned to a sid not available for that runway.No, it is not departing on a SID. I find lots of departures leave without using a SID. Maybe half do and half don't. Those that don't simply plan to go direct to one of the fixes, maintaining runway heading until told otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tumbi 2 Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Oops ... Pressed the wrong button! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bweer 0 Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 I have another problem with the 3 airports in NY. For KJFK rwy 04L and 04R, KLGA rwy 04 and KEWR rwy 04L and 04R are not oriented well. For KJFK their position is 030 where irl the position is 045, same goes for LGA and EWR with the runways about 15 degrees out of position. Now a problem arise when playing jfk with 04L departing and 04R arrivals. since the aircrafts depart in the direction 045 they tend to collide. starting on 04L it ends up on the 04R. Would be nice if this problem would be checked. greetz, rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martijn Coenen 9 Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Data on runway headings comes from real life data, so if there is an orientation problem, real planes would have problems too Do you use the latest navdata dataset or the default ones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bweer 0 Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 I use the default ones. In real life i never see aircrafts taking off through the grass to the other runway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerosoft Aerosoft Team [Inactive Account] 51558 Posted March 3, 2014 Aerosoft Share Posted March 3, 2014 Could you make a screenshot of this as I was not able to find that issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bweer 0 Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Here it is, you can see it takes off from 04L then goes over the grass to 04R. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martijn Coenen 9 Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 I confirm. Navdata Cycle 1401 Airport data: A,KJFK,KENNEDY INTL,40.639750,-73.778925,14,18000,18000,14500,0 R,04L,45,11351,150,1,110.900,45,40.622017,-73.785586,12,3.00,57,3,0 R,04R,45,8400,200,1,109.500,45,40.625425,-73.770347,12,3.00,53,3,0 R,13L,135,10000,150,1,111.500,135,40.656495,-73.787436,12,3.00,45,3,0 R,13R,135,14511,200,0,0.000,0,40.645495,-73.810386,13,3.00,50,3,0 R,22L,225,8400,200,1,110.900,225,40.645236,-73.754864,13,3.00,50,3,0 R,22R,225,11351,150,1,109.500,222,40.642433,-73.769636,13,3.00,59,3,0 R,31L,315,14511,200,1,111.350,315,40.632578,-73.781883,12,3.00,48,3,0 R,31R,315,10000,150,1,111.500,315,40.645170,-73.762458,13,3.00,49,3,0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keenrw 59 Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 You beat me too it , noticed this as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobsonM 94 Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 About the issue with runway offset. It was solved many many times, and I honestly have no idea why it keeps coming back. But don't worry, this time as usual I solved it and really hope it will never come back. But before I issue an update can you tell me if there are any strange behavior on approach or after landing? Airports that were affected in the past are for instance KJFK or BIKF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martijn Coenen 9 Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 Never noticed anything. Only after the screenshot by Bweer I noticed it. So arrivals and departures were fine, or at least I have been lucky. If there are specific items to test. give us a shout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobsonM 94 Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 Please see if the arrivals are well aligned on the center-line during approach and if they stay on the runway after landing. If this is all okay then I can issue the update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martijn Coenen 9 Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Seems to be fine Final: Rollout: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bweer 0 Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Landing has no problems and i going well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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