Trainzak 4 Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Could you please check Airport data for Helsinki-Vantaa (EFHK)? It seems that almost all aircraft on the departure wants to fly to some random waypoints, and they are always given only heading on the departure, although I have selected "Aircraft follow SID on departure", and selected the departure runway. At all other airports this works perfectly, but in EFHK there is probably some error in the airport data... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerosoft Aerosoft Team [Inactive Account] 51558 Posted February 20, 2014 Aerosoft Share Posted February 20, 2014 They seem indeed strange. Will ask Robert to take a look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobsonM 94 Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 I will have a look Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobsonM 94 Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 Well, for me it's not random. It's the one of possible leaving points. It's just that not all runways have SIDs for all leaving points... hence the heading. You need to vector it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martijn Coenen 9 Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 As there are a lot of questions on this SID-subject, would it be wise to write a short piece on these 'vectored departure procedures' in the manual or a FAQ? A short 'what to do as controller'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerosoft Aerosoft Team [Inactive Account] 51558 Posted March 10, 2014 Aerosoft Share Posted March 10, 2014 I'll see if I can find time for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trainzak 4 Posted March 17, 2014 Author Share Posted March 17, 2014 Well, for me it's not random. It's the one of possible leaving points. It's just that not all runways have SIDs for all leaving points... hence the heading. You need to vector it. Ok, could you then tell me, where in the NavData are those leaving points defined? Because I don't see a reason why there should be other waypoints than the last waypoints of SIDs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martijn Coenen 9 Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 You need to take the SID's. Lets say DINB2N for RWY22R: SID,DINB2N,22R,5 CD, ,0,0,0,HEL,0,0.0,219.0,2.5,2,730,0,0,0,0,0,0, CF,HK451,60.304667,24.781942,0,HEL,240.8,5.5,275.0,3.0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0, TF,ASTIV,60.234722,24.423889,0, ,0.0,0.0,0.0,0.0,0,0,0,1,250,0,0,0, TF,DINBA,60.203889,24.268611,0, ,0.0,0.0,0.0,0.0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0, DINBA would be your "exit". What "SID's" are going wrong? There are some with less points and no TF for instance. Don't know if this is something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trainzak 4 Posted March 18, 2014 Author Share Posted March 18, 2014 I know where to find SIDs and STARs, but the problem is that apart from these SIDs airplanes are also flying to the waypoints, that are are not listed in these SIDs for EFHK. So they are just assigned runway heading for departure and I have to manually direct them to the given waypoint. What I want to do is get rid of these exit waypoints without SIDs, so all departing aircraft will have its assigned SID. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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