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Confirm Eastbound for 2 FEb have been published

011400 CZQXZQZX
(NAT-1/3 TRACKS FLS 320/400 INCLUSIVE
FEB 02/0100Z TO FEB 02/0800Z
PART ONE OF THREE PARTS-
R YQX KOBEV 50/50 51/40 52/30 53/20 MALOT GISTI
EAST LVLS 320 330 340 350 360 370 380 390 400
WEST LVLS NIL
EUR RTS EAST NIL
NAR N79B N83B N85A-
S VIXUN LOGSU 49/50 50/40 51/30 52/20 LIMRI XETBO
EAST LVLS 320 330 340 350 360 370 380 390 400
WEST LVLS NIL
EUR RTS EAST NIL
NAR N63B N67B-
T YYT NOVEP 48/50 49/40 50/30 51/20 DINIM ELSOX
EAST LVLS 320 330 340 350 360 370 380 390 400
WEST LVLS NIL
EUR RTS EAST NIL
NAR N53B N59A-
U COLOR RONPO 47/50 48/40 49/30 50/20 SOMAX ATSUR
EAST LVLS 320 330 340 350 360 370 380 390 400
WEST LVLS NIL
EUR RTS EAST NIL
NAR N43A N49A-
V BANCS URTAK 46/50 47/40 48/30 49/20 BEDRA NERTU
EAST LVLS 320 330 340 350 370 380 390 400
WEST LVLS NIL
EUR RTS EAST NIL
NAR N35A N41C-
END OF PART ONE OF THREE PARTS)

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For reference could the DEV's give an estimate of a time period between NAT's been published and PFPX picking up that data.

Time is now 1603Z and TMI034 published 021401 CZQXZQZX

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Hi Steve

Good Question, didn't Gary say they were available approx 10hrs before 'go live'

Clive

Something like that. Maybe 8 hours. I can't recall exact times.

The eastbound tracks have been published since 1401Z. The TMI is 034.

021401 CZQXZQZX

(NAT-1/2 TRACKS FLS 320/400 INCLUSIVE

FEB 03/0100Z TO FEB 03/0800Z

PART ONE OF TWO PARTS-

U CYMON DENDU 51/50 51/40 52/30 53/20 MALOT GISTI

EAST LVLS 320 330 340 350 360 370 380 390 400

WEST LVLS NIL

EUR RTS EAST NIL

NAR N95B N97B N99A-

V YQX KOBEV 50/50 50/40 51/30 52/20 LIMRI XETBO

EAST LVLS 320 330 340 350 360 370 380 390 400

WEST LVLS NIL

EUR RTS EAST NIL

NAR N79B N83B N85A-

W VIXUN LOGSU 49/50 49/40 50/30 51/20 DINIM ELSOX

EAST LVLS 320 330 340 350 360 370 380 390 400

WEST LVLS NIL

EUR RTS EAST NIL

NAR N63B N67B-

X YYT NOVEP 48/50 48/40 49/30 50/20 SOMAX ATSUR

EAST LVLS 320 330 340 350 360 370 380 390 400

WEST LVLS NIL

EUR RTS EAST NIL

NAR N53B N59A-

Y COLOR RONPO 47/50 47/40 48/30 49/20 BEDRA NERTU

EAST LVLS 320 330 340 350 370 380 390 400

WEST LVLS NIL

EUR RTS EAST NIL

NAR N43A N49A-

END OF PART ONE OF TWO PARTS)

021401 CZQXZQZX

(NAT-2/2 TRACKS FLS 320/400 INCLUSIVE

FEB 03/0100Z TO FEB 03/0800Z

PART TWO OF TWO PARTS-

Z SOORY 43/50 46/40 47/30 48/20 48/15 OMOKO GUNSO

EAST LVLS 320 330 340 350 370 380 390 400

WEST LVLS NIL

EUR RTS EAST NIL

NAR NIL-

REMARKS:

1.TMI IS 034 AND OPERATORS ARE REMINDED TO INCLUDE THE TMI NUMBER

AS PART OF THE OCEANIC CLEARANCE READ BACK.

2.ADS-C AND CPDLC MANDATED OTS ARE AS FOLLOWS

TRACK V 360 370 380 390

TRACK W 360 370 380 390

END OF ADS-C AND CPDLC MANDATED OTS

3.CLEARANCE DELIVERY FREQUENCY ASSIGNMENTS FOR AIRCRAFT OPERATING

FROM KENKI TO TALGO INCLUSIVE:

KENKI TO GRIBS 132.02

MIBNO TO LAKES 134.2

MOATT TO SCROD 128.7

OYSTR TO CYMON 135.45

YQX TO VIXUN 135.05

YYT TO COLOR 128.45

BANCS TO TALGO 119.42

4.EIGHTY PERCENT OF GROSS NAVIGATIONAL ERRORS RESULT FROM POOR

COCKPIT PROCEDURES. ALWAYS CARRY OUT PROPER WAYPOINT PROCEDURES.

5.OPERATORS ATTENTION IS DRAWN TO AIC 40/12 RE DATALINK MANDATE

INITIATIVE

6.OPERATORS ATTENTION IS DRAWN TO NOTAM A0017/13 RE CHANGE IN

NEW YORK CENTER OCEANIC CLEARANCE PROCEDURES.-

END OF PART TWO OF TWO PARTS)

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this is what is in PFPX

NORTH ATLANTIC TRACK MESSAGE
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
(NAT-1/3 TRACKS FLS 320/400 INCLUSIVE
FEB 02/0100Z TO FEB 02/0800Z
PART ONE OF THREE PARTS-
R YQX KOBEV 50/50 51/40 52/30 53/20 MALOT GISTI
EAST LVLS 320 330 340 350 360 370 380 390 400
WEST LVLS NIL
EUR RTS EAST NIL
NAR N79B N83B N85A-
S VIXUN LOGSU 49/50 50/40 51/30 52/20 LIMRI XETBO
EAST LVLS 320 330 340 350 360 370 380 390 400
WEST LVLS NIL
EUR RTS EAST NIL
NAR N63B N67B-
T YYT NOVEP 48/50 49/40 50/30 51/20 DINIM ELSOX
EAST LVLS 320 330 340 350 360 370 380 390 400
WEST LVLS NIL
EUR RTS EAST NIL
NAR N53B N59A-
U COLOR RONPO 47/50 48/40 49/30 50/20 SOMAX ATSUR
EAST LVLS 320 330 340 350 360 370 380 390 400
WEST LVLS NIL
EUR RTS EAST NIL
NAR N43A N49A-
V BANCS URTAK 46/50 47/40 48/30 49/20 BEDRA NERTU
EAST LVLS 320 330 340 350 370 380 390 400
WEST LVLS NIL
EUR RTS EAST NIL
NAR N35A N41C-
END OF PART ONE OF THREE PARTS)
(NAT-2/3 TRACKS FLS 320/400 INCLUSIVE
FEB 02/0100Z TO FEB 02/0800Z
PART TWO OF THREE PARTS-
W DOVEY 42/60 44/50 46/40 47/30 48/20 48/15 OMOKO GUNSO
EAST LVLS 320 330 340 350 370 380 390 400
WEST LVLS NIL
EUR RTS EAST NIL
NAR NIL-
X JOBOC 41/60 43/50 45/40 46/30 47/20 47/15 ETIKI REGHI
EAST LVLS 320 330 340 350 370 380 390 400
WEST LVLS NIL
EUR RTS EAST NIL
NAR NIL-
Y SLATN 40/60 41/50 42/40 43/30 44/20 MUDOS STG
EAST LVLS 330 350 370
WEST LVLS NIL
EUR RTS EAST NIL
NAR NIL-
END OF PART TWO OF THREE PARTS)
(NAT-3/3 TRACKS FLS 320/400 INCLUSIVE
FEB 02/0100Z TO FEB 02/0800Z
PART THREE OF THREE PARTS-
Z SOORY 42/50 44/40 45/30 46/20 46/15 SEPAL LAPEX
EAST LVLS 320 340 380 390 400
WEST LVLS NIL
EUR RTS EAST NIL
NAR NIL-
REMARKS:
1.TMI IS 033 AND OPERATORS ARE REMINDED TO INCLUDE THE TMI NUMBER
AS PART OF THE OCEANIC CLEARANCE READ BACK.
2.ADS-C AND CPDLC MANDATED OTS ARE AS FOLLOWS
TRACK S 360 370 380 390
TRACK T 360 370 380 390
END OF ADS-C AND CPDLC MANDATED OTS
3.CLEARANCE DELIVERY FREQUENCY ASSIGNMENTS FOR AIRCRAFT OPERATING
FROM KENKI TO TALGO INCLUSIVE:
KENKI TO GRIBS 132.02
MIBNO TO LAKES 134.2
MOATT TO SCROD 128.7
OYSTR TO CYMON 135.45
YQX TO VIXUN 135.05
YYT TO COLOR 128.45
BANCS TO TALGO 119.42
4.EIGHTY PERCENT OF GROSS NAVIGATIONAL ERRORS RESULT FROM POOR
COCKPIT PROCEDURES. ALWAYS CARRY OUT PROPER WAYPOINT PROCEDURES.
5.OPERATORS ATTENTION IS DRAWN TO AIC 40/12 RE DATALINK MANDATE
INITIATIVE
6.OPERATORS ATTENTION IS DRAWN TO NOTAM A0017/13 RE CHANGE IN
NEW YORK CENTER OCEANIC CLEARANCE PROCEDURES.-
END OF PART THREE OF THREE PARTS)
(NAT-1/2 TRACKS FLS 310/390 INCLUSIVE
FEB 02/1130Z TO FEB 02/1900Z
PART ONE OF TWO PARTS-
A ATSIX 62/20 63/30 63/40 63/50 62/60 GRIBS JELCO
EAST LVLS NIL
WEST LVLS 310 320 330 350 360 370
EUR RTS WEST AKIVO
NAR NIL-
B BALIX 61/20 62/30 62/40 62/50 61/60 MIBNO RODBO
EAST LVLS NIL
WEST LVLS 310 320 330 350 360 370
EUR RTS WEST NINEX
NAR NIL-
C ERAKA 60/20 61/30 61/40 61/50 60/60 PEPKI LOPVI
EAST LVLS NIL
WEST LVLS 310 320 330 350 360 370
EUR RTS WEST ETSOM
NAR NIL-
D GOMUP 59/20 60/30 60/40 59/50 PRAWN YDP
EAST LVLS NIL
WEST LVLS 310 320 330 350 360 370 380 390
EUR RTS WEST GINGA
NAR NIL-
END OF PART ONE OF TWO PARTS)
(NAT-2/2 TRACKS FLS 310/390 INCLUSIVE
FEB 02/1130Z TO FEB 02/1900Z
PART TWO OF TWO PARTS-
E SUNOT 58/20 59/30 59/40 58/50 PORGY HO
EAST LVLS NIL
WEST LVLS 310 320 330 340 350 360 370 380 390
EUR RTS WEST NIL
NAR NIL-
F PIKIL 57/20 58/30 58/40 57/50 LOACH FOXXE
EAST LVLS NIL
WEST LVLS 310 320 330 340 350 360 370 380 390
EUR RTS WEST NIL
NAR NIL-
REMARKS.
1. TMI IS 033 AND OPERATORS ARE REMINDED TO INCLUDE THE
TMI NUMBER AS PART OF THE OCEANIC CLEARANCE READ BACK.
2. ADS-C AND CPDLC MANDATED OTS ARE AS FOLLOWS
NO ASSIGNED LEVELS
END OF ADS-C AND CPDLC MANDATED OTS
3. FOR STRATEGIC LATERAL OFFSET AND CONTINGENCY PROCEDURES RELATED TO
OPS IN NAT FLOW PLEASE REFER TO THE NAT PROGRAMME COORDINATION WEB
SITE AT WWW.PARIS.ICAO.CREWS ARE REMINDED TO OFFSET AT AND NOT BEFORE
THE OCEANIC ENTRY POINT AND MUST RETURN TO THE CENTRELINE PRIOR TO
THE OCEANIC EXIT POINT.
4.OPERATORS ARE REMINDED THAT THE CLEARANCE MAY DIFFER FROM YOUR
FLIGHT PLAN, FLY YOUR CLEARANCE.
5.UKAIP.ENR2.2.4.2 PARA5.2 STATES THAT NAT OPERATORS SHALL FILE PRMS.
6.FLIGHTS REQUESTING WESTBOUND OCEANIC CLEARANCE VIA ORCA DATALINK
SHALL INCLUDE IN THE RMK/ FIELD THE HIGHEST ACCEPTABLE FLIGHT LEVEL
WHICH CAN BE MAINTAINED AT THE OAC ENTRY POINT.
7.DUE TO REYKJAVIK REQUIREMENTS, DURING THE PERIOD OF VALIDITY OF
THE WESTBOUND OTS, FLIGHT LEVEL 340 IS NOT AVAILABLE TO TRAFFIC
TRANSITING THE SHANWICK OCA WHICH HAS A LANDFALL BETWEEN PRAWN AND
KENKI INCLUSIVE-
END OF PART TWO OF TWO PARTS)
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Its TMI 033 for everyone. It really gets on my nerves allready that this same issue is so persistant and cannot be fixed. Yes I could do a flight by pulling NATs from external source manually but then I wont be able to print track messages and its all stupid anyway.

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