gary.mcginnis 18 Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 So then there was a data transfer error today. They should be up for tomorrow. Re: Purged Not sure the exact time Gary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpha117 51 Posted February 1, 2014 Author Share Posted February 1, 2014 Gary Thanks for your time on this Will check tomorrow and let you know if they do not appear CLive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary.mcginnis 18 Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 No problem Gary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srcooke 422 Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 Eastbound TMI033 for 2 Feb has been available for two hours to my knowledge, not yet available in PFPX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpha117 51 Posted February 1, 2014 Author Share Posted February 1, 2014 ooooh....here we go again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpha117 51 Posted February 1, 2014 Author Share Posted February 1, 2014 I still show 01 Feb Eastbound Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpha117 51 Posted February 1, 2014 Author Share Posted February 1, 2014 The issue must be the PFPX server? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpha117 51 Posted February 1, 2014 Author Share Posted February 1, 2014 Confirm Eastbound for 2 FEb have been published 011400 CZQXZQZX (NAT-1/3 TRACKS FLS 320/400 INCLUSIVEFEB 02/0100Z TO FEB 02/0800Z PART ONE OF THREE PARTS- R YQX KOBEV 50/50 51/40 52/30 53/20 MALOT GISTI EAST LVLS 320 330 340 350 360 370 380 390 400 WEST LVLS NIL EUR RTS EAST NIL NAR N79B N83B N85A- S VIXUN LOGSU 49/50 50/40 51/30 52/20 LIMRI XETBO EAST LVLS 320 330 340 350 360 370 380 390 400 WEST LVLS NIL EUR RTS EAST NIL NAR N63B N67B- T YYT NOVEP 48/50 49/40 50/30 51/20 DINIM ELSOX EAST LVLS 320 330 340 350 360 370 380 390 400 WEST LVLS NIL EUR RTS EAST NIL NAR N53B N59A- U COLOR RONPO 47/50 48/40 49/30 50/20 SOMAX ATSUR EAST LVLS 320 330 340 350 360 370 380 390 400 WEST LVLS NIL EUR RTS EAST NIL NAR N43A N49A- V BANCS URTAK 46/50 47/40 48/30 49/20 BEDRA NERTU EAST LVLS 320 330 340 350 370 380 390 400 WEST LVLS NIL EUR RTS EAST NIL NAR N35A N41C- END OF PART ONE OF THREE PARTS) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpha117 51 Posted February 1, 2014 Author Share Posted February 1, 2014 East and West Bounds NAT tracks are now up for 2 Feb in PFPX at 2246Z Clive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpha117 51 Posted February 2, 2014 Author Share Posted February 2, 2014 This is now resolved see here http://forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?/topic/78520-nats-issues-at-beginning-of-monthfrom-support/ Clive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srcooke 422 Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 For reference could the DEV's give an estimate of a time period between NAT's been published and PFPX picking up that data. Time is now 1603Z and TMI034 published 021401 CZQXZQZX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpha117 51 Posted February 2, 2014 Author Share Posted February 2, 2014 Hi Steve Good Question, didn't Gary say they were available approx 10hrs before 'go live' Clive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary.mcginnis 18 Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Hi Steve Good Question, didn't Gary say they were available approx 10hrs before 'go live' Clive Something like that. Maybe 8 hours. I can't recall exact times. The eastbound tracks have been published since 1401Z. The TMI is 034. 021401 CZQXZQZX (NAT-1/2 TRACKS FLS 320/400 INCLUSIVE FEB 03/0100Z TO FEB 03/0800Z PART ONE OF TWO PARTS- U CYMON DENDU 51/50 51/40 52/30 53/20 MALOT GISTI EAST LVLS 320 330 340 350 360 370 380 390 400 WEST LVLS NIL EUR RTS EAST NIL NAR N95B N97B N99A- V YQX KOBEV 50/50 50/40 51/30 52/20 LIMRI XETBO EAST LVLS 320 330 340 350 360 370 380 390 400 WEST LVLS NIL EUR RTS EAST NIL NAR N79B N83B N85A- W VIXUN LOGSU 49/50 49/40 50/30 51/20 DINIM ELSOX EAST LVLS 320 330 340 350 360 370 380 390 400 WEST LVLS NIL EUR RTS EAST NIL NAR N63B N67B- X YYT NOVEP 48/50 48/40 49/30 50/20 SOMAX ATSUR EAST LVLS 320 330 340 350 360 370 380 390 400 WEST LVLS NIL EUR RTS EAST NIL NAR N53B N59A- Y COLOR RONPO 47/50 47/40 48/30 49/20 BEDRA NERTU EAST LVLS 320 330 340 350 370 380 390 400 WEST LVLS NIL EUR RTS EAST NIL NAR N43A N49A- END OF PART ONE OF TWO PARTS)021401 CZQXZQZX (NAT-2/2 TRACKS FLS 320/400 INCLUSIVE FEB 03/0100Z TO FEB 03/0800Z PART TWO OF TWO PARTS- Z SOORY 43/50 46/40 47/30 48/20 48/15 OMOKO GUNSO EAST LVLS 320 330 340 350 370 380 390 400 WEST LVLS NIL EUR RTS EAST NIL NAR NIL- REMARKS: 1.TMI IS 034 AND OPERATORS ARE REMINDED TO INCLUDE THE TMI NUMBER AS PART OF THE OCEANIC CLEARANCE READ BACK. 2.ADS-C AND CPDLC MANDATED OTS ARE AS FOLLOWS TRACK V 360 370 380 390 TRACK W 360 370 380 390 END OF ADS-C AND CPDLC MANDATED OTS 3.CLEARANCE DELIVERY FREQUENCY ASSIGNMENTS FOR AIRCRAFT OPERATING FROM KENKI TO TALGO INCLUSIVE: KENKI TO GRIBS 132.02 MIBNO TO LAKES 134.2 MOATT TO SCROD 128.7 OYSTR TO CYMON 135.45 YQX TO VIXUN 135.05 YYT TO COLOR 128.45 BANCS TO TALGO 119.42 4.EIGHTY PERCENT OF GROSS NAVIGATIONAL ERRORS RESULT FROM POOR COCKPIT PROCEDURES. ALWAYS CARRY OUT PROPER WAYPOINT PROCEDURES. 5.OPERATORS ATTENTION IS DRAWN TO AIC 40/12 RE DATALINK MANDATE INITIATIVE 6.OPERATORS ATTENTION IS DRAWN TO NOTAM A0017/13 RE CHANGE IN NEW YORK CENTER OCEANIC CLEARANCE PROCEDURES.- END OF PART TWO OF TWO PARTS) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary.mcginnis 18 Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Are they not showing in PFPX? If that is the case, there seems to be a communications error between the server. Gary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpha117 51 Posted February 2, 2014 Author Share Posted February 2, 2014 Hi Gary what it TMI? Clive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpha117 51 Posted February 2, 2014 Author Share Posted February 2, 2014 this is what is in PFPX NORTH ATLANTIC TRACK MESSAGE -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- (NAT-1/3 TRACKS FLS 320/400 INCLUSIVE FEB 02/0100Z TO FEB 02/0800Z PART ONE OF THREE PARTS- R YQX KOBEV 50/50 51/40 52/30 53/20 MALOT GISTI EAST LVLS 320 330 340 350 360 370 380 390 400 WEST LVLS NIL EUR RTS EAST NIL NAR N79B N83B N85A- S VIXUN LOGSU 49/50 50/40 51/30 52/20 LIMRI XETBO EAST LVLS 320 330 340 350 360 370 380 390 400 WEST LVLS NIL EUR RTS EAST NIL NAR N63B N67B- T YYT NOVEP 48/50 49/40 50/30 51/20 DINIM ELSOX EAST LVLS 320 330 340 350 360 370 380 390 400 WEST LVLS NIL EUR RTS EAST NIL NAR N53B N59A- U COLOR RONPO 47/50 48/40 49/30 50/20 SOMAX ATSUR EAST LVLS 320 330 340 350 360 370 380 390 400 WEST LVLS NIL EUR RTS EAST NIL NAR N43A N49A- V BANCS URTAK 46/50 47/40 48/30 49/20 BEDRA NERTU EAST LVLS 320 330 340 350 370 380 390 400 WEST LVLS NIL EUR RTS EAST NIL NAR N35A N41C- END OF PART ONE OF THREE PARTS) (NAT-2/3 TRACKS FLS 320/400 INCLUSIVE FEB 02/0100Z TO FEB 02/0800Z PART TWO OF THREE PARTS- W DOVEY 42/60 44/50 46/40 47/30 48/20 48/15 OMOKO GUNSO EAST LVLS 320 330 340 350 370 380 390 400 WEST LVLS NIL EUR RTS EAST NIL NAR NIL- X JOBOC 41/60 43/50 45/40 46/30 47/20 47/15 ETIKI REGHI EAST LVLS 320 330 340 350 370 380 390 400 WEST LVLS NIL EUR RTS EAST NIL NAR NIL- Y SLATN 40/60 41/50 42/40 43/30 44/20 MUDOS STG EAST LVLS 330 350 370 WEST LVLS NIL EUR RTS EAST NIL NAR NIL- END OF PART TWO OF THREE PARTS) (NAT-3/3 TRACKS FLS 320/400 INCLUSIVE FEB 02/0100Z TO FEB 02/0800Z PART THREE OF THREE PARTS- Z SOORY 42/50 44/40 45/30 46/20 46/15 SEPAL LAPEX EAST LVLS 320 340 380 390 400 WEST LVLS NIL EUR RTS EAST NIL NAR NIL- REMARKS: 1.TMI IS 033 AND OPERATORS ARE REMINDED TO INCLUDE THE TMI NUMBER AS PART OF THE OCEANIC CLEARANCE READ BACK. 2.ADS-C AND CPDLC MANDATED OTS ARE AS FOLLOWS TRACK S 360 370 380 390 TRACK T 360 370 380 390 END OF ADS-C AND CPDLC MANDATED OTS 3.CLEARANCE DELIVERY FREQUENCY ASSIGNMENTS FOR AIRCRAFT OPERATING FROM KENKI TO TALGO INCLUSIVE: KENKI TO GRIBS 132.02 MIBNO TO LAKES 134.2 MOATT TO SCROD 128.7 OYSTR TO CYMON 135.45 YQX TO VIXUN 135.05 YYT TO COLOR 128.45 BANCS TO TALGO 119.42 4.EIGHTY PERCENT OF GROSS NAVIGATIONAL ERRORS RESULT FROM POOR COCKPIT PROCEDURES. ALWAYS CARRY OUT PROPER WAYPOINT PROCEDURES. 5.OPERATORS ATTENTION IS DRAWN TO AIC 40/12 RE DATALINK MANDATE INITIATIVE 6.OPERATORS ATTENTION IS DRAWN TO NOTAM A0017/13 RE CHANGE IN NEW YORK CENTER OCEANIC CLEARANCE PROCEDURES.- END OF PART THREE OF THREE PARTS) (NAT-1/2 TRACKS FLS 310/390 INCLUSIVE FEB 02/1130Z TO FEB 02/1900Z PART ONE OF TWO PARTS- A ATSIX 62/20 63/30 63/40 63/50 62/60 GRIBS JELCO EAST LVLS NIL WEST LVLS 310 320 330 350 360 370 EUR RTS WEST AKIVO NAR NIL- B BALIX 61/20 62/30 62/40 62/50 61/60 MIBNO RODBO EAST LVLS NIL WEST LVLS 310 320 330 350 360 370 EUR RTS WEST NINEX NAR NIL- C ERAKA 60/20 61/30 61/40 61/50 60/60 PEPKI LOPVI EAST LVLS NIL WEST LVLS 310 320 330 350 360 370 EUR RTS WEST ETSOM NAR NIL- D GOMUP 59/20 60/30 60/40 59/50 PRAWN YDP EAST LVLS NIL WEST LVLS 310 320 330 350 360 370 380 390 EUR RTS WEST GINGA NAR NIL- END OF PART ONE OF TWO PARTS) (NAT-2/2 TRACKS FLS 310/390 INCLUSIVE FEB 02/1130Z TO FEB 02/1900Z PART TWO OF TWO PARTS- E SUNOT 58/20 59/30 59/40 58/50 PORGY HO EAST LVLS NIL WEST LVLS 310 320 330 340 350 360 370 380 390 EUR RTS WEST NIL NAR NIL- F PIKIL 57/20 58/30 58/40 57/50 LOACH FOXXE EAST LVLS NIL WEST LVLS 310 320 330 340 350 360 370 380 390 EUR RTS WEST NIL NAR NIL- REMARKS. 1. TMI IS 033 AND OPERATORS ARE REMINDED TO INCLUDE THE TMI NUMBER AS PART OF THE OCEANIC CLEARANCE READ BACK. 2. ADS-C AND CPDLC MANDATED OTS ARE AS FOLLOWS NO ASSIGNED LEVELS END OF ADS-C AND CPDLC MANDATED OTS 3. FOR STRATEGIC LATERAL OFFSET AND CONTINGENCY PROCEDURES RELATED TO OPS IN NAT FLOW PLEASE REFER TO THE NAT PROGRAMME COORDINATION WEB SITE AT WWW.PARIS.ICAO.CREWS ARE REMINDED TO OFFSET AT AND NOT BEFORE THE OCEANIC ENTRY POINT AND MUST RETURN TO THE CENTRELINE PRIOR TO THE OCEANIC EXIT POINT. 4.OPERATORS ARE REMINDED THAT THE CLEARANCE MAY DIFFER FROM YOUR FLIGHT PLAN, FLY YOUR CLEARANCE. 5.UKAIP.ENR2.2.4.2 PARA5.2 STATES THAT NAT OPERATORS SHALL FILE PRMS. 6.FLIGHTS REQUESTING WESTBOUND OCEANIC CLEARANCE VIA ORCA DATALINK SHALL INCLUDE IN THE RMK/ FIELD THE HIGHEST ACCEPTABLE FLIGHT LEVEL WHICH CAN BE MAINTAINED AT THE OAC ENTRY POINT. 7.DUE TO REYKJAVIK REQUIREMENTS, DURING THE PERIOD OF VALIDITY OF THE WESTBOUND OTS, FLIGHT LEVEL 340 IS NOT AVAILABLE TO TRAFFIC TRANSITING THE SHANWICK OCA WHICH HAS A LANDFALL BETWEEN PRAWN AND KENKI INCLUSIVE- END OF PART TWO OF TWO PARTS) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srcooke 422 Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 No Gary the Eastbound TMI034 is not yet available in PFPX, at least here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary.mcginnis 18 Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Then there seems to be a communications error between the server and PFPX. TMI034 published on 02FD @ 1401Z. In my PFPX beta version, I also see TMI033. So that rules on a user only issue. Gary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainTim 11 Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Chaps, Just to say I'm running 1.13 and the eastbound tracks are TMI033 not TMI034. Todays Westbound tracks however do show up. Cheers, TIm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpha117 51 Posted February 2, 2014 Author Share Posted February 2, 2014 Hi Tim Well, where about are you in the World, perhaps its a country thing! Clive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainTim 11 Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 UK but shouldn't matter as the aviation runs on Zulu time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpha117 51 Posted February 2, 2014 Author Share Posted February 2, 2014 UK here also, oh well have to wait and see what happens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raimo 3 Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Its TMI 033 for everyone. It really gets on my nerves allready that this same issue is so persistant and cannot be fixed. Yes I could do a flight by pulling NATs from external source manually but then I wont be able to print track messages and its all stupid anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpha117 51 Posted February 2, 2014 Author Share Posted February 2, 2014 OK lets see if PFPX updates NATS around the same time as last night at approx 2246Z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpha117 51 Posted February 2, 2014 Author Share Posted February 2, 2014 Well no NATS update as of 2255Z still on TMI 033 Clive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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