alpha117 51 Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 How do you plan a route before the NATS becomes available in PFPX? Westbound (1300-1900z) Its now 1215Z here and I can't plan a westbound route for last on today! How is this achieved in the real world? Thanks Clive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srcooke 422 Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 Is that because the tracks are missing once again in PFPX Clive? If so you could manually enter them: NATS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpha117 51 Posted February 1, 2014 Author Share Posted February 1, 2014 Hi Steve So its a PFPX issue? OK i will raise a support ticket for this Clive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpha117 51 Posted February 1, 2014 Author Share Posted February 1, 2014 Going to see when the Westbound track become available in PFPX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpha117 51 Posted February 1, 2014 Author Share Posted February 1, 2014 Now 1302Z and west Tracks still not available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srcooke 422 Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 Purely guessing it's because the tracks are not showing as published by ATCSCC EDIT: literally just published as I posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpha117 51 Posted February 1, 2014 Author Share Posted February 1, 2014 But they are here already https://www.notams.faa.gov/common/nat.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpha117 51 Posted February 1, 2014 Author Share Posted February 1, 2014 Still no Westbound Tracks This has now be flagged to the development team as urgent Clive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary.mcginnis 18 Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 What is the issue? The westbound tracks for tomorrow ARE NOT published yet. That link you gave only has eastbound tracks right now. No urgent development team input required. Gary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpha117 51 Posted February 1, 2014 Author Share Posted February 1, 2014 Hi Gary Thanks Just passing on what Pierre had replied to my ticket Clive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary.mcginnis 18 Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 Look for westbound tracks around 0100Z. Gary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpha117 51 Posted February 1, 2014 Author Share Posted February 1, 2014 Roger that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpha117 51 Posted February 1, 2014 Author Share Posted February 1, 2014 Gary while you are here! how do you plan in advance for these routes Allowing for being in a different time zone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary.mcginnis 18 Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 Wait until the NATS are published and inserted in PFPX, then build a route. Simple as that Gary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpha117 51 Posted February 1, 2014 Author Share Posted February 1, 2014 and in the real world? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srcooke 422 Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 Gary the Westbound tracks for 1st Feb have not been available in PFPX at all. Last TMI032 Eastbound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary.mcginnis 18 Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 Same..... I am not sure what you're asking. When the next days tracks are published, you can start building your routes. Westbound tracks go active at 1300Z and are published around 0100 to 0300Z. That is around 10 hours in advance. Did you have an issue with today's tracks? I just replied to your last message from about 30 minutes ago (which is well before 0100Z). Gary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpha117 51 Posted February 1, 2014 Author Share Posted February 1, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary.mcginnis 18 Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 Gary the Westbound tracks for 1st Feb have not been available in PFPX at all. This now makes sense. I just replied to the last message from around 30 minutes ago and thought it was in regards to tomorrows tracks as I looked through the other posts. Gary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpha117 51 Posted February 1, 2014 Author Share Posted February 1, 2014 So we should have had today's westbound between 0100 -0300z today ready for go live at 1300z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary.mcginnis 18 Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 Yes. Desired: Westbound Tracks for 02FEB These will be published between 0100 and 0300Z (don't recall the exact time off the top of my head) on 02FEB. They then go active at 1300Z. Thus giving you at least 10 hours advance notice to route plan. Gary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpha117 51 Posted February 1, 2014 Author Share Posted February 1, 2014 ..so we have missed today's (Feb01)Westbound tracks? They never made it to PFPX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary.mcginnis 18 Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 ..so we have missed today's (Feb01)Westbound tracks? They never made it to PFPX It appears that way if you didn't see them by 0300Z on 01FEB. Once expired, they are purged from PFPX. Gary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpha117 51 Posted February 1, 2014 Author Share Posted February 1, 2014 I was in PFPX at 0800Z today and they were not there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpha117 51 Posted February 1, 2014 Author Share Posted February 1, 2014 So do they get purged at 1900Z or before that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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