Adrijan 193 Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Just to be short: There are no STARs VERIG5A and NARKA5A, only PERIT5A. Latest cycle, 1311. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan-Paul Schuchna 24 Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 They are excluded in real world because the ARC bases on an ILS/DME. Jan-Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrijan 193 Posted November 2, 2013 Author Share Posted November 2, 2013 Wait, correct me if I'm wrong but how is that a good reason to be excluded? How else should we fly that STAR precisely anyway (without RNAV)? A DME arc around an ILS/DME is almost impossible to be flown precisely without RNAV, hence an ever bigger reason to be included. After all they are in charts. Also latest Navigraph cycle has them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan-Paul Schuchna 24 Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 Real World FMCs are not able to handle any DME ARC that is not basing on an VOR/DME. The RNAV points itself should be there and can be entered manually. The troublemaker here is that the ARC is currenty coded with AF-Legs in the database. I will check if the procedure could also be coded with TF-Legs and the RNAV waypoints only. Jan-Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marvic 183 Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Just to be short: There are no STARs VERIG5A and NARKA5A, only PERIT5A. Latest cycle, 1311. Can you refer me to the latest charts with LHBP STARS, The latest I have does not depict any STARS only Approaches. I guessing my charts are to old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deputy Sheriffs mopperle 4162 Posted November 3, 2013 Deputy Sheriffs Share Posted November 3, 2013 Hi Marvic, for charts in Europe there is an official source: Eurocontrol. You can setup a free account here and then you have access to all official airport and enroute charts for Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marvic 183 Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Hi Marvic, for charts in Europe there is an official source: Eurocontrol. You can setup a free account here and then you have access to all official airport and enroute charts for Europe. Thanks mopperle, I appreciate the help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrijan 193 Posted November 3, 2013 Author Share Posted November 3, 2013 As mopperle mentioned, you can get pretty much all charts for Europe at eurocontrol, I really love that website. But, for beginners it might be a little confusing, so if it is for you, try https://charts.aero/. In short, it takes information from eurocontrol website (for Europe) and other sources for places outside of Europe, but can be buggy at some times and doesn't give you everything from the AIP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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