renogu 3 Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Hi, is it possible to get the flight level in metric format in the ATC FPL, i.e. when entering the Chinese Airspace I've got FL351 instead of S1070. I've read the manual and have found nothing about it even when I'm selecting metric altitude in my aircraft option. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlightSimSoft.com 283 Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 This should happen automatically, as the ATC flight plan is not linked to your personal unit Settings. Do you have a sample ATC flight plan or the FIR/UIR where this happens? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renogu 3 Posted August 30, 2013 Author Share Posted August 30, 2013 This should happen automatically, as the ATC flight plan is not linked to your personal unit Settings. Do you have a sample ATC flight plan or the FIR/UIR where this happens? (FPL-CPA260-IS -B77W/H-SDE1FGHIJ1RWXYZ/LB1 -LFPG1115 -N0494F310 RANUX UN858 LIMGO UZ111 OBIGA UL984 BOMBI/N0492F310 L984 LOHRE UL984 DOPOV UT40 DOKEL UN871 LAGAR/K0905F310 N871 LDZ Z169 GERVI P851 RAVOK Z860 OGARA/K0896F330 Z860 TOBLO B365 LETRU G724 PT A722 TISOR/N0488F330 A722 US G901 BW/K0904F330 A943 ARISA G3 URL A368 AKB A360 DITKI/K0892F350 A360 BLH A110 UAAT A124 RULAD/K0908F351 A460 KCA L888 SADAN Y1 OMBON/K0911F371 B330 GYA A599 POU R473 SIERA SIER6B -VHHH1100 VMMC -PBN/A1B1C1D1L1O1S1 NAV/RNVD1E2A1 DOF/130830 REG/BKPA EET/EBUR0022 EDUU0026 LKAA0054 EPWW0110 UMMV0148 UUWV0226 UWPP0318 UWSS0327 UWWW0340 UATT0352 UACC0449 UAAA0535 ZWUQ0627 ZLHW0728 ZPKM0846 ZGZU0952 VHHK1044 SEL/HPJK RVR/200 OPR/CATHAY PACIFIC RALT/ZWWW ZLLL) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamyJay 1 Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Here is a copy of a real flight operated today by CPA bound for Hongkong. PFPX should create a ATC FPL like this: N0478F310 ANDIK UN873 JUIST UP729 DOSUR P729 TALSA P730 CDA/N0472F330 M611 MALIV P862 LIMAK/K0868F330 R822 GONBI R30 SU B210 GIMUN G358 MEDUG/K0864F350 G358 MANEB A300 TINRI P983 NIGOR/K0859S1130 B330 MORIT/K0871S1160 B330 YBL/K0880S1130 B330 OMBON/K0872S1190 B330 POU R473 SIERA/1105 The Entry point into China Airspce is NIGOR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlightSimSoft.com 283 Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Found and fixed the issue in PFPX. Will be available with next update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renogu 3 Posted August 30, 2013 Author Share Posted August 30, 2013 Found and fixed the issue in PFPX. Will be available with next update. Great news Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brenchen 0 Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 Hi Christian, I often operate in the Chinese airspace, but only now I've picked up that the FL in the detailed OFP is still in feet. I am currently running v1.08. Here's an example of the ATC route: ATC ROUTE: K0844S0980 TGO13D TGO G212 CDY W41 VYK A461 WXI DCT DAPRO A461 LIG/K0864S1010 R473 BEMAG V5 ATAGA ATA2Y Here's an example of the detailed route: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AWY WAYPOINT MT ALT WND/VEL TAS REM FUEL REM / USED LEG ACC NAME TMP FREQ GS DIST POSITION ETO / ATO -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ZYCC/24 705 16.8 / 0.3 LONGJIA 1584 N4400.4 E12542.1 ...../..... TGO13D D238E 239 *CLB 7 16.5 / 0.7 02 00:02 IDD238005 1577 N4356.1 E12535.2 ...../..... TGO13D LJB 140 *CLB 15 16.1 / 1.0 03 00:05 WANCHANG 115.90 1562 N4346.4 E12551.1 ...../..... TGO13D V 276 *CLB 25 15.7 / 1.5 05 00:10 1537 N4345.8 E12517.1 ...../..... TGO13D BUTET 275 *CLB 43 15.1 / 2.0 07 00:17 1494 N4341.9 E12418.8 ...../..... *TOC 276 FL322 280/060 456 70 14.4 / 2.7 10 00:27 -49 394 1424 N4336.5 E12241.4 ...../..... TGO13D TGO 274 FL322 278/064 456 22 14.3 / 2.9 04 00:31 TONGLIAO -49 116.30 394 1402 N4334.6 E12212.8 ...../..... G212 IKOKO 241 FL322 284/067 456 63 13.8 / 3.4 09 00:40 -48 413 1340 N4255.7 E12105.6 ...../..... G212 UPNAT 241 FL322 282/069 456 94 13.1 / 4.1 13 00:53 -48 410 1246 N4157.6 E11926.5 ...../..... G212 DABMA 240 FL322 282/072 456 50 12.7 / 4.5 08 01:01 -ZBPE -47 407 1196 N4125.3 E11833.7 ...../..... G212 CDY 238 FL322 281/073 457 79 12.1 / 5.1 11 01:12 CHEDAOYU -45 625.0 408 1117 N4035.7 E11713.4 ...../..... W41 VYK 207 FL322 274/085 458 88 11.5 / 5.7 13 01:25 DAWANGZHUANG -44 112.70 430 1029 N3912.7 E11634.3 ...../..... A461 IKENU 211 FL322 272/089 459 29 11.2 / 5.9 04 01:29 -43 418 1000 N3845.5 E11619.8 ...../..... A461 HG 211 FL322 271/095 459 69 10.7 / 6.4 10 01:39 HENGSHUI -42 350.0 414 931 N3743.0 E11542.3 ...../..... A461 WXI 211 FL322 270/095 459 90 10.1 / 7.1 13 01:52 -ZHWH WEIXIAN -41 115.70 411 841 N3622.8 E11455.1 ...../..... DCT DAPRO 195 FL322 251/028 465 432 7.1 / 10.1 58 02:50 -ZGZU -33 451 410 N2915.5 E11338.4 ...../..... A461 AKUBA 188 FL322 254/026 465 30 6.9 / 10.3 04 02:54 -33 455 379 N2845.3 E11336.1 ...../..... A461 LIG 188 *CLB 257/015 465 67 6.5 / 10.7 09 03:03 LILING -33 112.40 460 313 N2739.9 E11331.0 ...../..... R473 BEMAG 169 FL331 359/005 466 101 5.8 / 11.4 13 03:16 -35 467 211 N2601.1 E11400.1 ...../..... V5 ATAGA 192 FL331 333/002 465 113 5.1 / 12.1 15 03:31 -36 466 98 N2410.7 E11341.0 ...../..... ATA2Y *TOD 202 FL331 333/002 464 10 5.0 / 12.1 01 03:32 -36 466 89 N2401.7 E11338.6 ...../..... ATA2Y GG027 202 *DES 17 5.0 / 12.1 02 03:34 72 N2345.5 E11332.5 ...../..... ATA2Y GG009 232 *DES 23 5.0 / 12.2 04 03:38 48 N2329.2 E11312.2 ...../..... ATA2Y GG007 194 *DES 18 5.0 / 12.2 02 03:40 30 N2312.9 E11309.6 ...../..... ATA2Y GG006 193 *DES 6 4.9 / 12.2 02 03:42 24 N2306.9 E11307.4 ...../..... ATA2Y CI02R 107 *DES 6 4.9 / 12.2 01 03:43 IBB196021 19 N2305.5 E11313.4 ...../..... ATA2Y ZGGG/02R 017 50 19 4.8 / 12.4 07 03:50 BAIYUN N2323.5 E11318.3 ...../..... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Is that normal? Cheers, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamyJay 1 Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 It should show the metric levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brenchen 0 Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 Where? I'm referring to the long one where all the waypoints are shown (not the ATC ROUTE). If you look at the second example I posted, all I can see is FL322, FL331 etc. And that doesn't look metric to me. So that's why I query whether real world flight plans that pilots get in China also show imperial levels even though they operate under metric RVSM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Checkursix 3 Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 It is normal for the body of the flightplan to show the altitude in feet. In your example the altitude in feet should be FL321 not 322 for FL 9800 m. Looks like PFPX is converting directly and rounding up versus using the China FLAS table. The aircraft is be flown using feet in Chinese RVSM airspace. Further reading here: http://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/ato/service_units/enroute/rvsm/documents/Pilot_Opr_Guidance_Mtrl_China_RVSM_2007101014251255.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brenchen 0 Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 Thanks for that. FL321 as oppose to FL322, and also this route is going West. Why is the step climb up to FL331 (S1010) at LIG VOR, which should be an east flight level? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamyJay 1 Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 Probably because it is only a one-direction airway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brenchen 0 Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Haha, silly me! I had a look at the ERC from CAIP, indeed the point is not only one-direction, but also slightly eastbound. However, the one going to ATAGA (still saying FL331) does in fact go westbound (191deg). Maybe it's too short of a distance to worry about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlightSimSoft.com 283 Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 The altitudes/flight levels on the OFP are always shown in the units set in the aircraft properties for the selected aircraft. So if you want metric levels in the OFP, just set it in the aircraft editor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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