Michael Meisi 0 Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Hello, when I set the Twin Otter to Cold & Dark and do the checklist I am not able to get the propellers rotating. As soon I activate the point: "START SWITCH - ENGINE RIGHT" (in ENGINE START section of the checklist), I hear a short sound that the engine is running up,but I see no reaction/movement in gauges (like Torque or Prop RPM increase) or any rotation of the propellors in extenal view. What do I wrong? My assumption was to get from Cold & Dark to a plane which is able to takeoff only by processing the checklist Thanks & Regards Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deputy Sheriffs Eric Bakker 736 Posted July 10, 2013 Deputy Sheriffs Share Posted July 10, 2013 Hello Micheal, Does the Checklist item "set ready to fly" correctly? It should start up the Twotter. Also, did you use a 'clean' startup situation, the default FSX one with the Trike or the Cessna? This is also important to avoid any strange settings inherited from other aircraft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerosoft Aerosoft Team [Inactive Account] 51558 Posted July 10, 2013 Aerosoft Share Posted July 10, 2013 Mmm stupid suggestion but I know it happened to me often, you got fuel in the tanks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markoz 7 Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Hi guys. I had this exact same problem last night! I exited and restarted FSX many times trying to get it to work. But it was all to no avail. Even when using the SET Ready to fly option, I could hear it trying to start the engines, but they wouldn't fire up. I got the exact same thing happening after going through the checklist with ALL GREEN X's in them, up to that point. No engine start at all. In the end, I gave up and went to bed at 5am (Aussie time). Today, it's working fine so it's a mystery to me as to why it wasn't working in the wee hours of this morning. And before you ask, yes I rebooted my computer after installing it. Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markoz 7 Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Mmm stupid suggestion but I know it happened to me often, you got fuel in the tanks? Good question Mathijs, but going through the checklist verified there was fuel (100%) in my tanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Meisi 0 Posted July 10, 2013 Author Share Posted July 10, 2013 Hi all again Yes. I have fuel in my tanks I did the following: - Start FSX with default aircraft (like Cessna) - Load Airport - When default plane and airport has been loaded, I select Twin Otter Extended - When Twin Otter has been loaded all engines/props are running as I configured "Ready to fly situation" as "Default startup situation" => no problem - Now I select in checklist "SET Cold and Dark" - Propellors loose RPM and all systems are getting shutdown => all correct - When I do now process the checklist I got no Prop RPM anymore Even when I select "Set Ready to fly" from pure C&D situation, the electical system eg. switches on put no propeller rotation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deputy Sheriffs mopperle 4162 Posted July 10, 2013 Deputy Sheriffs Share Posted July 10, 2013 And you rebooted your PC after installing? What OS are you using? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Meisi 0 Posted July 10, 2013 Author Share Posted July 10, 2013 Yes. I rebooted my PC directly after installation yesterday evening when asked to do so by installer. Today morning I booted again. I have Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 FSX Deluxe SP2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deputy Sheriffs mopperle 4162 Posted July 10, 2013 Deputy Sheriffs Share Posted July 10, 2013 Did you install as Administrator? (right click on the installer and choose "Run as Administrator") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markoz 7 Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 It's a pity that Michael's didn't sort itself out after the full shutdown of his computer like mine did. We also have different setups: Windows 7 Professional 64bit FSX + Acceleration Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Meisi 0 Posted July 10, 2013 Author Share Posted July 10, 2013 Did you install as Administrator? (right click on the installer and choose "Run as Administrator") Yes I did install it as Admin although my FSX is not in standard folder on C:/Programme (x86)/.... I have installed my FSX on a different drive partition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deputy Sheriffs mopperle 4162 Posted July 10, 2013 Deputy Sheriffs Share Posted July 10, 2013 So you have the following folder structure in your "my documents" folder: "...\Aerosoft\AerosoftTwinOtterExtended" and what files are in this folder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Meisi 0 Posted July 10, 2013 Author Share Posted July 10, 2013 So you have the following folder structure in your "my documents" folder: "...\Aerosoft\AerosoftTwinOtterExtended" and what files are in this folder? Subfolder:Flight Recorder (empty) Files: Aircraft.xml FuelPlannerSaveSettings.xm TwotterX.asc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Meisi 0 Posted July 10, 2013 Author Share Posted July 10, 2013 I have attached a screenshot which shows the dashboard after selecting "SET Ready to Fly" in checklist. This is the same situation as when reaching checklist item "ENGINE START: Engine right" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerosoft Aerosoft Team [Inactive Account] 51558 Posted July 10, 2013 Aerosoft Share Posted July 10, 2013 Hi all again Yes. I have fuel in my tanks I did the following: - Start FSX with default aircraft (like Cessna) - Load Airport - When default plane and airport has been loaded, I select Twin Otter Extended - When Twin Otter has been loaded all engines/props are running as I configured "Ready to fly situation" as "Default startup situation" => no problem - Now I select in checklist "SET Cold and Dark" - Propellors loose RPM and all systems are getting shutdown => all correct - When I do now process the checklist I got no Prop RPM anymore Even when I select "Set Ready to fly" from pure C&D situation, the electical system eg. switches on put no propeller rotation Do you have the Twin Otter set to cold and dark or ready to fly on start-up? Been trying to recreate the issue but so far nothing out of he ordinary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbd80 258 Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Michael, Have you got any axis on your joystick or other controller assigned to 'Mixture'. The Twotter doesn't use mixture, but having this assigned would move the red fuel levers on/off. I'm just wondering if there is a conflict with your hardware and it is overriding what the Twotter is trying to do. You say that when you move the Starter switch you hear a brief whine of the prop, have you noted the position of the fuel levers at this time. Shortly after moving the Starter switch the appropriate fuel lever should be moved into the On position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deputy Sheriffs Eric Bakker 736 Posted July 10, 2013 Deputy Sheriffs Share Posted July 10, 2013 Subfolder:Flight Recorder (empty) Files: Aircraft.xml FuelPlannerSaveSettings.xm TwotterX.asc Michael, You could also try this: Delete the file 'TwotterX.asc' This file contains the panel state, and will be created again fresh automatically. Maybe something is corrupted there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Meisi 0 Posted July 10, 2013 Author Share Posted July 10, 2013 Do you have the Twin Otter set to cold and dark or ready to fly on start-up? Been trying to recreate the issue but so far nothing out of he ordinary. I have tried both settings for startup - No success. What is strange is that when changing the starter switch from middle postion to left or right engine (either manually or by selecting rightclick on checklist) I hear an increasing engine sound, but none of my gauges are moving. Question: At engine running up - Is there an indicator (gauge) on the dashboard or only sound ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbd80 258 Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 I have tried both settings for startup - No success. What is strange is that when changing the starter switch from middle postion to left or right engine (either manually or by selecting rightclick on checklist) I hear an increasing engine sound, but none of my gauges are moving. Question: At engine running up - Is there an indicator (gauge) on the dashboard or only sound ? When the Starter switch is moved the corresponding bottom most RPM gauge should start to move up and at approx. 12% the fuel lever should be moved to on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn 873 Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 When engaging the starter You should see Ng (GG) increase towards 20% Are You using a custom startup situation ? We recomend using the default "Airtrike over Friday habour" or the Flight1 save startup situation:http://www.simforums.com/forums/important-startup-flight-for-complex-aircraft_topic28987.html Finn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Meisi 0 Posted July 10, 2013 Author Share Posted July 10, 2013 Yes I use a custom startup situation and no addional flightstick When the Starter switch is moved the corresponding bottom most RPM gauge should start to move up and at approx. 12% the fuel lever should be moved to on. Please have a look in my second screenshot here at the green checklist items and the RPMs at zero Nothing has moved after activating starter and fuel lever PS: In the meantime I have uninstalled/reinstalled the plane - same issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Meisi 0 Posted July 10, 2013 Author Share Posted July 10, 2013 Michael, You could also try this: Delete the file 'TwotterX.asc' This file contains the panel state, and will be created again fresh automatically. Maybe something is corrupted there. NOW IT WORKS! I have deleted this "Twotter.asc" file and now the gauges and props are rotating! Thank you for this hint! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn 873 Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 This can happen in very rare occasions. Finn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markoz 7 Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 So you have the following folder structure in your "my documents" folder: "...\Aerosoft\AerosoftTwinOtterExtended" and what files are in this folder? This folder does NOT exist in my Documents\Flight Simulator X files folder! My FSX is installed here: J:\Flight Simulator X\ Should mine not work either? Even though it did last time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn 873 Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 This folder does NOT exist in my Documents\Flight Simulator X files folder! My FSX is installed here: J:\Flight Simulator X\ Should mine not work either? Even though it did last time? It´s not in the \Flight Simulator X files\ but right under \Documents\Aerosoft\ Finn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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