g2loq 0 Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 Hello everybody, I've just got Eurowings and I'm trying to fly with ATR 42-300. After take off I'm not able to fly over 100 Kts (torque at 90%, and prop rpm at 100% :x ). I really don't understand, everything seems ok but apparently not! Thanks for your help (anybody in french can help me :?: ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skydvdan 2 Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 Flaps up!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g2loq 0 Posted January 13, 2006 Author Share Posted January 13, 2006 thanks Skydvdan, but unfortunately this is not the reason. I put flap up immediately after take off but the speed is decreasing to 80kts and I scratch the plane systematically. Is it a hardware issue ? or someting missing on the procedure? thks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skydvdan 2 Posted January 14, 2006 Share Posted January 14, 2006 I was just kidding. Could it maybe have something to do with the pitch of the props? Also, is that 100kts also in straight and level flight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kofi 0 Posted January 14, 2006 Share Posted January 14, 2006 Engine/Fuel condition levers :?: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ei6265 0 Posted January 14, 2006 Share Posted January 14, 2006 Check your weight. Open up the config program and make sure its acceptable. Also, check your fuel when loading in FS. If youre overweight, it will say it. This happened to me for a good while before I figured out the problem, so I reckon its the same thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g2loq 0 Posted January 14, 2006 Author Share Posted January 14, 2006 Thank you very much everybody for your help. I'm gonna try. I guess solution is coming from the overweight. eid6265, if you don't open the config program you should not have any passenger, isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g2loq 0 Posted January 15, 2006 Author Share Posted January 15, 2006 Hello Eid6265, the overweight was the reason thanks very much, I need lot of hours of pratice now (I'm coming from beechcraft king air 350). Just one question : is it normal to trim a lot to stabilize the plane? again thanks for your help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ei6265 0 Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 Glad to see you have it working now Yes, sometimes the aircraft needs a bit of trim, but it should not require an awful amount. Cheers, Daryl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerosoft Aerosoft Team [Inactive Account] 51558 Posted January 15, 2006 Aerosoft Share Posted January 15, 2006 Hello Eid6265, the overweight was the reason thanks very much, I need lot of hours of pratice now (I'm coming from beechcraft king air 350). Just one question : is it normal to trim a lot to stabilize the plane? again thanks for your help That depends of course a bit on the balance. If the load is spread well over the aircraft you will not need any trim and will fly very economically, but if you put all your load in the tail of the aircraft you will need a lot of nose down trim and that will cause a lot of drag. Btw, you choose a perfect aircraft to step up to larger aircraft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g2loq 0 Posted January 19, 2006 Author Share Posted January 19, 2006 Hello guys, After lot of trials I'm always forced to trim a lot in order to compensate the huge pitch of my plane (more than 25 degres). I specify that my plane is empty (no passenger, no freight, and fuel at 40%). I've attached pic just to show you the level of the trim. Is it really normal to trim like this or something wrong? Waiting your helpful comments. bye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerosoft Aerosoft Team [Inactive Account] 51558 Posted January 19, 2006 Aerosoft Share Posted January 19, 2006 Hello guys, After lot of trials I'm always forced to trim a lot in order to compensate the huge pitch of my plane (more than 25 degres). I specify that my plane is empty (no passenger, no freight, and fuel at 40%). I've attached pic just to show you the level of the trim. Is it really normal to trim like this or something wrong? Waiting your helpful comments. bye Could be a problem with the joystick. Could you let the aircraft fly level on AP with the joystick disabled? In FS the AP will always use the trim to keep altitude so it will show if there is a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g2loq 0 Posted January 23, 2006 Author Share Posted January 23, 2006 Hello Mathjiskok, I've tried with AP and it's the same; it's means it's trim down also to compensate, moreover when I'm just opening the plane the trim is already down without any action on it :evil: I don't think it's coming from my joystick cause i don't face the problem with FS2004 planes. Should I re-install ATR42? maybe it's coming from the physical properties of the atr42 file.? 6 months back somebody posted the same issue on the forum but no reply. thanks to help if possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerosoft Aerosoft Team [Inactive Account] 51558 Posted January 23, 2006 Aerosoft Share Posted January 23, 2006 Hello Mathjiskok, I've tried with AP and it's the same; it's means it's trim down also to compensate, moreover when I'm just opening the plane the trim is already down without any action on it :evil: I don't think it's coming from my joystick cause i don't face the problem with FS2004 planes. Should I re-install ATR42? maybe it's coming from the physical properties of the atr42 file.? 6 months back somebody posted the same issue on the forum but no reply. thanks to help if possible. That's very strange, any aircraft will load with the trim setting of the SIM it is not possible to set the trim of an aircraft in the aircraft files. I suggest you load the standard Meigs flight and then change to the ATR, I am sure you will see the trim in same setting as the Cessna has. If it is not, there is some control input that is changing it, this can you (but it is not), the joystick settings or the Autopilot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g2loq 0 Posted January 23, 2006 Author Share Posted January 23, 2006 Hello, it's stranger now! I've taken off on meigs with cessna and trim was 5.9 degres :!: after I took atr42 on meigs and pitch was neutral. Anyway it's not changing the fact that i still have trim down to compensate the huge climb! I'm thinking to re-install the plane. I will let you now in two weeks time. tomorrow i will fly (as passenger only :cry: ) to your nice country for work. bye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerosoft Aerosoft Team [Inactive Account] 51558 Posted January 23, 2006 Aerosoft Share Posted January 23, 2006 Hello, it's stranger now! I've taken off on meigs with cessna and trim was 5.9 degres :!: after I took atr42 on meigs and pitch was neutral. Anyway it's not changing the fact that i still have trim down to compensate the huge climb! I'm thinking to re-install the plane. I will let you now in two weeks time. tomorrow i will fly (as passenger only :cry: ) to your nice country for work. bye I am now more and more sure it's your stick. Again, the advise, try without the stick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g2loq 0 Posted February 11, 2006 Author Share Posted February 11, 2006 You're right. I tried without my joystick and no problem for the trim. What I don't understand is my Saitek Cyborg Evo works perfectly well with the FS9 aircrafts. there is any conflict known between the Saitek and the ATR42? I don't see any solution as I'm not ready to buy a new joystick only to fly with the ATR. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerosoft Aerosoft Team [Inactive Account] 51558 Posted February 11, 2006 Aerosoft Share Posted February 11, 2006 You're right. I tried without my joystick and no problem for the trim. What I don't understand is my Saitek Cyborg Evo works perfectly well with the FS9 aircrafts. there is any conflict known between the Saitek and the ATR42? I don't see any solution as I'm not ready to buy a new joystick only to fly with the ATR. Thanks There is no known conflict up to this moment. But I am also very surprised there is a problem. The trim functions are the same as far as I can tell between default aircraft and the ATR. Really a suprising problem. Few questions, - Are you using any special joystick drivers, software, special assignments of joystick keys? - Are you sure all sliders and rotating controls on your joystick are in neutral position when you have the problem? - Did you try to recalibrate the stick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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