Aerosoft Aerosoft Team [Inactive Account] 51558 Posted October 12, 2011 Aerosoft Share Posted October 12, 2011 I was very much looking forward to the new AMD chip. With 8 cores it might be ideal for X-plane 10 and FSX (but bad for FS2004). Unfortunately it seems that it still is not able to take on the Intel Core i7 and looses on many aspects to the Core i5. Copied from: http://www.tweaktown...ew/index11.html Interesting read. Final Thoughts Damn! You can't help but almost feel disappointed with what's going on here today and while I can completely understand that the 2600k is more expensive, like we've already said here a number of times, you've ultimately got to compare the flagship product from Intel against the flagship product from AMD, and that's ultimately what we've done. I think the problem isn't so much just the performance against the Intel i7 2600k, but also against the Phenom II X6 1100T. Sure, it's faster, for the most part; at times we see it dip a little below, but for the most part it's faster. The problem is, it should be faster every time! The worst thing is, I don't think it's that the FX-8150 is a poor performing CPU, it's just that nothing is really able to make use of it and that's a problem for AMD. We do see in certain situations it shines, especially against the 1100T, but we never find ourselves going "WOW". What does look positive for AMD is the gaming performance at the moment. We'll have to dive into that more soon, though. If performance in games is similar between the 2600k and FX-8150, then we could be onto something. It's all going to come down to price, that's what's going to separate what people buy. For starters, if you're on an X4 or an X6 and you have an AM3+ compatible board, then you can get an upgrade really cheap. You can get into a top of the line FX processor for $245 US. That's so much cheaper than what a move to a Z68 platform will cost you for the simple fact all you need to do is buy a new CPU. Then there's someone on a P55 board, or an older AMD system that doesn't support the new processor. In the CPU department you're looking at $245 US for the FX-8150 and $314.99 US for the i7 2600k. That's a good chunk of change, but the chances are if you're looking at an FX-8150, the other option you're looking at is the 2600k because they're both the Flagship product for both companies. Then you move onto motherboard pricing. We could use the Crosshair V Formula as an example, but the problem is that there's no Maximus IV Formula-Z and the Extreme-Z is significantly more expensive. Instead, let's use GIGABYTE as an example. GIGABYTEs GA-Z68X-UD7-B3 is going to cost you $349.99 US. A lot of that is due to the fact the board supports x16 / x16 via the NF200 chip. The GIGABYTE GA-990FXA-UD7 is going to set you back $249.99 US. With $100 US saved on the motherboard and $70 US saved on the CPU, you've got yourself a saving of $170 US. The difference between a GTX 570 and GTX 580 is $115 US. The difference between a GTX 560 TI and GTX 580 is $200 US and this gives us a really good idea of what we're able to do. A FX-8150, GA-990FXA-UD7 and GTX 580 will set you back $894.98 US. A 2600k, GA-Z68X-UD7-B3 and GTX 560 Ti will set you back $864.97 US. Both are the flagship CPU from AMD and Intel, both are the flagship motherboard from GIGABYTE and while that 2600k system might win out in AIDA64 and HyperPi, when it comes down to gaming, it's not going to take an expert to figure out which one is going to come out ahead. If you went with the GTX 580 in our 2600k system, the price would come in at $1064.97 US. Are you going to get an extra $169 US worth of performance out of the Intel one? Well, at the moment we can't fully confirm because we really need to give the 2600k and FX-8150 a head to head. It's for that reason we'll wrap up our final thoughts on not just the FX-8150, but the platform on a whole. So keep an eye out for that tomorrow. One side of me is let down with a lot of the numbers we see here today; the other side of me sees the potential of what a system is able to be for $900 with a FX-8150 when compared to one with a 2600k. Let's give a full run down of what you're able to see when both systems go through our VGA testing gauntlet and really wrap everything up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Designer Paule 24 Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 Read an article today also that the fastest 8 core unlocked will only be up to par with I5, they won't even be close to the I7. then a while back heard in the hear say dept there are supposed to be some newer Intels out next year to take over the present sandy bridge. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bionicCrab 7 Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 Quite a shame really. I was hoping for some competition, but they still haven't matched the i7's integrated memory controller. There's another article on that site that says the SB-E is shipping with water cooling, now that would be interesting. I run the H50 myself so I'm not suprised Intel went this route. Would explain why the price of the chip is $100 higher than the 2600k. Anyways I'm waiting for IvyBridge, 22nm + H50 should be even better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharrow 107 Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 As long as AMD remain focused on the server market where their prices are good then they should be ok. On the desktop side they're a very painful generation behind. SB-E Hex core LGA2011 and X79 with quad channel DDR3 is defintley on my list for santa this year. Been 4 years since my last major upgrade so the timing is just right too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebksb123 99 Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 I'm so glad I bought the i7 2600k, I first thought there'll be a faster one coming out within a few months, but the i7 seems to be unbeatable. Let's see how long this takes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Designer Paule 24 Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 They released another new processor Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razeers 6 Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 They released another new processor Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Please, tell me more! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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