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Speaking of trans-Atlantic hereditary links, did you know that Princess Diana and Sarah Palin are related ? Thank goodness we got the better end of that arrangement. :lol:

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Hi Aerosoft,

Lately I've noticed an increase in spamming. Only yesterday one spammer put up a complete porn site and others with viagra and other crap. What worries me most is the porn knowing that there are young children on here. Because of the time difference, when I come online here in West Australia, I'm frustrated because all I can do is report. 4.gif At times I see that Oleandreasen, Matt_Smith and Snave are online and must be as frustrated as me. So I would like to suggest that these loyal members be given the privledge to delete any spam. I own a website and know that anything deleted goes to a bin where Admin can check and put back if need be.

Again I say that whilst you are all asleep these fagots come online and pounce.

Mathijs and Shaun please give it some consideration.

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It was something we thought about just last week.And it just might happen.

Do note that this spam is not robot spam, this is all posted by real humans who get a few pennies for every spam they are able to get online. It's impossible to prevent this.

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It was something we thought about just last week.And it just might happen.

Do note that this spam is not robot spam, this is all posted by real humans who get a few pennies for every spam they are able to get online. It's impossible to prevent this.

Yes saw one in action last night. Hit the report button asap. Can't blame people for trying to make a few pennies, it's the companies that hire them. Despicable

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Hello Folks,

Spam is no where near as bad as it used to be as with the old forum software.

As I say as long as there account has not been removed from the forum they are easy to deal with.

Just keep pressing the "Report" button and as soon as I see it their posts will be removed in one swift action and then there accounts banned.

Ah yes. ^_^ This is a very good button. I've never used it since I am here, but maybe I'll try it in a few seconds. :wub:

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It was something we thought about just last week.And it just might happen.

Do note that this spam is not robot spam, this is all posted by real humans who get a few pennies for every spam they are able to get online. It's impossible to prevent this.

Thank you Mathijs and I hope you will make it happen. ;) I know that a lot of this spam is not computer generated and that is why I suggested to have some mods in place with delete option.

Cheers,

Pierre

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Thank you Mathijs and I hope you will make it happen. ;) I know that a lot of this spam is not computer generated and that is why I suggested to have some mods in place with delete option.

Cheers,

Pierre

I'm not sure if it is possible on a forum but on some Yahoo! groups that I run new members are moderated for the first few posts that they send. Granted I then have to remove the moderation once I can see that they are a bona fide forum member and of course my moderators also have to moderate their few posts but it has reduced a lot of agro and eliminated spam completely from the list. Of course people can get wise to this but in my experience most spammers don't have a clue about the forum subject so I've yet to see a genuine forum member suddenly turn spammer.

Would something similar be possible here?

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Hello hjcurtis,

I have asked IPBoard about there new system where Boards can join and if they get spammed by someone the details can then be sent to a database, should that person then try to spam another board participating in the scheme the system will not allow it to be registered and there for access prevented for them details. That way they have to keep registering new e--mail addresses every time they then want to spam a board with the system.

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Hi Shaun and Mathijs,

I found this interesting article. I know a lot of members on Aerosoft have got their own forums and blogs and I thought this article might be helpful. If inappropriate, please delete. :unsure:

You're being spammed! Wanna know Why?

If you're new to all this forum/blog spam you most likely have a boat load of questions, but mostly you just want it to stop. Stopping spammers is easier than you might think, and finding SFS is a great first step. But having a basic understanding of the whys & hows will also make the job much easier.

What you are about to read is very basic explanations. They are by no means meant to cover every possible scenario. They are meant to give a basic understanding of what is going on.

Spammer Mentality, or lack there of!

First, you must understand that the people that are doing the spamming are a group of very twisted individuals.

These people believe that defacing your forum or blog, stealing your bandwidth and spreading their garbage is their God Given right and you should be honored they are plastering your site. They are proud of what they do. They believe that spamming is an ethical way to to business. They also believe that by spamming your site they are doing you a favor.

My response to that mentality… well, in order to keep this clean, I'll just say, No Hesitation, No Mercy, No Remorse.

Why do they spam?

There are only 2 reasons why people spam.

1: To make money. By increasing a websites Page Rank (PR), or through "affiliate" links.

2: To spread Trojans/Viruses.

(remember folks….."basic explanations"!)

Now lets look at the "How" they spam.

How do they find your forum/blog.

One (of the many many ways) is by searching for the forum or blog they want to spam. For example, lets say they have setup the software to blast Simple Machines Forums (SMF). All they have to do is search Google for, "Powered by SMF" which returns about 40,800,000 results. They then scrape the results, clean them, and load the list into the software. Which is all automated by the way.

There are a blue million other ways, but that's just one example to show you that if Google has indexed your site, they can find it.

The actual spamming!

This to, has 2 ways. Automated and Manual.

Automated spamming is done with software like xrumer, senuke and a few others.

xrumer is the most commonly used spamming software. It can be ran from a PC or setup on a VPS or dedicated server. It can join and post at a very fast rate. I've had one create 8 accounts and post 8 times in one second. (most likely running in aggressive mode on dedicated server with a small list) Anyway, the point is, it can hammer a lot of sites very quickly.

Manual Spamming!

This is pretty self explanatory. Normally, you won't see these people on forums unless it's a high PR site or is very targeted and or moderated. I like to call them delusional spammers, as what they are doing will have very little effect in making them money.

Other Stuff!

You now know a little of why & how. Now lets look at some other tid bits.

All of the software uses proxy lists to protect the real submitting IP. Although some are to stupid to figure out how to load the list.

The software does not parse JavaScript unless it has to with solving CAPTCHA or re-CAPTCHA.

It noes not load images or CSS.

This is why you will never see hits from a bot, until after it logs in, in your forum/blog logs. But, you can see the hits in your server access logs.

Spammers never actually "see" your website. Even if they are manually solving your CAPTCHA, which pops up in a side scrolling window for them to solve. They can however,check your site to see if their post was successful or looks okay. But, few ever do, because they are greedy and lazy.

Yes xrumer can defeat CAPTCHA and re-CAPTCHA automatically. It's processor intensive and slows down posting but it can do it. Although some spammers like to use a paid CAPTCHA solving service.

The software cannot get past a series of human question and answer fields automatically. If the Q&A's are canned, it can get past it, because botmaster (the creator of xrumer) has a database of the canned data. So make your own Q&A's.

Finally, the good old "spammer posting messed up links"

This is really funny once you know why they are doing it.

Some of the software has what is called an article/ad spinner. It basically works like so..

{Here we have a|This is a|This is an example of a} {sentence|phrase|passage} that is {ready|all set|geared up|prepared} to be {spun|created|made} into other {passages|sentences|phrases}.

The software will spin the ad x number of times alternating the words inside the { } so each will appear unique.

Now what happens is, the spammer doesn't have a clue how to correctly format his ads, so when he hits spin, it totally porks his links along with everything else. He then blasts out messed up ads while never bothering to check the results, thus we get to see the true IQ and utter laziness of a spammer.

There are a whole lot more tactics spammer use, cookie stuffing, click jacking, filter pages, double redirects etc...

But hopefully, this has given you a little better basic understanding of what is going on. smile.png

All credit to Wizzle from Stop Forum Spam.

Cheers, Pierre

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I think you will have noticed spam has gone down on our forums as we are using some new technology.

But keep in mind that spammers now use less and less CPU's and more and more poor sods in India etc. There is no technology against that.

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