Chaders 97 Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 Hi All, In preparation for an Andras Field server I've got an idea for a 'Moving in' Flyin. We could be given a slot time to arrive (closely spaced) and aim to land (or arrive in the overhead) as close to that spot as possible. This would work best if we all started at the field of our choice (20-60 minutes away) then we'd have arrivals from all around. If possible we could also have a spot landing competition. We could use either the threshold or numbers as our target and someone parked nearby could judge who got closest? One last idea for an activity would be a limbo competition, a couple of poles with a ribbon strung between could be added to the scenery just for the flyin date?? I'll add any other ideas on here as I think of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Wurz 42 Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 Sounds great, If I have time on that Event, I definitly try this one out with my Piper Cheyenne IA - was just there with it last weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaneRachel 4 Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 Great idea on the fly-in Richard, lets try and make that the second event. The reason I say that is for the first event I really would like everyone to arrive as they are able during the hours of the event, to welcome everyone to the field, with no time pressure on them. The first event is purely social. Beyond that I agree, lets have lots of competitions!! Although it has to be said, the last time I did the limbo I couldn't walk for a week I am also in discussion with the Airfield Manager for us to have a weekly evening meeting where everyone can get together at the field. The current aim is for this to be Thursday evenings, unless anyone has a dramatic disagreement with that. all the best JaneRachel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Fletcher 570 Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 Hello Jane. Lots of competitions sounds like a plan. Aerosoft could sponsor download prizes as could some of the companies who have advertising at the field if they should wish to donate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaneRachel 4 Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 Hello Jane. Lots of competitions sounds like a plan. Aerosoft could sponsor download prizes as could some of the companies who have advertising at the field if they should wish to donate. Hi Shaun, I was just about to email you on that very subject In fact, some Aerosoft partner developers/publishers have already offered prizes when I discussed with them today. Great minds think alike and all that! Jane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emi 5161 Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 Hello Jane. Lots of competitions sounds like a plan. Aerosoft could sponsor download prizes as could some of the companies who have advertising at the field if they should wish to donate. just a little idea of what the prices could be: what about the AES credits? that sounds good to me, and you could give more/less looking on how good the landing really was... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerosoft Aerosoft Team [Inactive Account] 51558 Posted July 21, 2010 Aerosoft Share Posted July 21, 2010 just a little idea of what the prices could be: what about the AES credits? that sounds good to me, and you could give more/less looking on how good the landing really was... Bit tricky. But 5 credit packs are possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerosoft Aerosoft Team [Inactive Account] 51558 Posted July 21, 2010 Aerosoft Share Posted July 21, 2010 New idea.... it's a runway that's not huge. How about inviting some real big boys? 747, A380... Make the weather hot and the wind cross. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Wurz 42 Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 Haha, I guess I know what I am going to do on the weekend - trying the pmdg's 747 there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Fletcher 570 Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 New idea.... it's a runway that's not huge. How about inviting some real big boys? 747, A380... Make the weather hot and the wind cross. Headwind 160 knots you can land a jumbo at Andras in a foot, Chaders knows what I mean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaders 97 Posted July 22, 2010 Author Share Posted July 22, 2010 Headwind 160 knots you can land a jumbo at Andras in a foot, Chaders knows what I mean Indeed mate, I remember a certain VTOL Vulcan in the past Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaneRachel 4 Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 Indeed mate, I remember a certain VTOL Vulcan in the past you two have now got me wanting to mess around with flying the MD11 and 747 into the field! There was I, planning a quiet night in front of the tv and look what you have done to me ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OleAndreasen 88 Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 you two have now got me wanting to mess around with flying the MD11 and 747 into the field! There was I, planning a quiet night in front of the tv and look what you have done to me ) So Jane - any success on landing those babies in AF? Pictures please!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaneRachel 4 Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 So Jane - any success on landing those babies in AF? Pictures please!!! yep landed both safely. I will do it again and grab some pics. Even with the elevation, there is stopping room for a lightly loaded heavy all the best JaneRachel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OleAndreasen 88 Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 yep landed both safely. I will do it again and grab some pics. Even with the elevation, there is stopping room for a lightly loaded heavy all the best JaneRachel Boy cant wait to see those! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerosoft Aerosoft Team [Inactive Account] 51558 Posted July 26, 2010 Aerosoft Share Posted July 26, 2010 Want another idea? We used to do this at shows while testing hardware a lot. Put an airliner on the runway, engines running. Climb to 10.000 feet. Land and stop. The one who does that fastest wins. We seen a lot of what we used to call 'screaming jezus" approaches with that. Also takes some thinking as you need to avoid any horizontal movement you don't need. Some pilots spiraled and others tried to keep a straight line in and out. Mathematically a single circle is the fastest but we have never seen anybody being able to work out what the radius should be. To small and you end up to high, to wide and you will need to stay level for a while to make it to the runway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Hamilton 97 Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 Even with the elevation, there is stopping room for a lightly loaded heavy How about a heavily loaded heavy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Wurz 42 Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 Okay, I did it - landed a 747-8i at Andras. Didn't even use the whole runway to get to stop there (Ok cheated a lil bit - turned the wind to 100 knots @ 261° ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andkozma 1 Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 (Ok cheated a lil bit - turned the wind to 100 knots @ 261° ) Alexander, Are you sure it can't be done without this wind? I do it with a 737 daily and though never tried with the 747 but I have the silly idea that it might be possible... Andras Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaff 0 Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 Should be able to land it whit 50 knots tailwind easly ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OleAndreasen 88 Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 Well sure it can be done - with standard 747-400 with default weight and 100% fuel. Headwind 15 knots. I know I was waay to low, but the question was. Can you land a 747 in AF - and the answer is clearly YES. I bumped directly down on the numbers and I had plenty of runway left when stopped. Already too low here, but what the heck!!! Finding the runway visually. Looking good Runway dead ahead. Watch it people below. Im coming in a little low thereeeeeeeeeeeee Gonna make it, gonna make it, gonna make it... Touchdown - on the numbers! Ladies and Gentlemen - Welcome to Andras Field. To the left we have the lake. Please remain seated until the plane has come to a complete standstill. Plane stopped - plenty of runway left. So all we need to do, is to taxi in. Turn off the seatbelt sign will you? Voila - 747 at Andras Field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deputy Sheriffs mopperle 4162 Posted July 27, 2010 Deputy Sheriffs Share Posted July 27, 2010 Well done! reminds me a little bit of Flying to St. Maartens Princess Juliana Airport, coming in very low. Well, for those having plots there with cars and aircraft parked outside, they should be informed next time to tighten them to the ground or they will be blown away, especialliy at take off! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Wurz 42 Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 Well to be honest, I thought it might be fun to try ~ 90 Knots Headwind - and it really was - when you are on the Glideslope with Vapp of ~150 Knots and you have a Groundspeed of ~60 Knots the Approach lasts forever :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerosoft Aerosoft Team [Inactive Account] 51558 Posted July 27, 2010 Aerosoft Share Posted July 27, 2010 Heck no get that 747 off the AF without dismantling and trucking it out. (you would be surprised how often that has happened. Aircraft need a lot less space to land then to depart.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OleAndreasen 88 Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 Heck no get that 747 off the AF without dismantling and trucking it out. (you would be surprised how often that has happened. Aircraft need a lot less space to land then to depart.) Well - Ill ditch the passengers and cargo, unload most of the fuel, and then I´ll see if I cannot get it off AF without destroying it all. Ill announce the departure, so people can get the heck away from my path. Tomorrow I´ll try the Airbus A380!!! Anyone want to beat me to it? fully fuelled and no more than 15 knots of headwind! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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