Aerosoft Airbus X - Preview

[Paul Golding 159]

Release box date: 30.08.2010 (here: http://en.shop.aeros...&s_group_id=022)

There really is little point in posting things like that, without a released download AirbusX, there can be no boxed version can there?

The reality is that when it's ready to be released, it will be released...............regardless of when it's expected to be released and I think it's pretty obvious from what some of the posts in this thread suggest (presumeably because they are beta testing it), that it's not ready to be released, hard though that may be for some to accept.

[Stewart 134]

I wouldn't mind if Aerosoft would lock this topic right now and open a new one in which only they can post useful information as soon as there is useful information...

Aerosoft pride themselves on giving their paying customers a voice and I see no reason for them to change that because of a few whiners. You can always choose not to read a topic rather than call for it to be closed.

[Vee One 33]

Aerosoft pride themselves on giving their paying customers a voice and I see no reason for them to change that because of a few whiners. You can always choose not to read a topic rather than call for it to be closed.

You're talking plenty sense! After all this is NOT a freeware forum where grumbling is not an option.

In any case, in my personal view, I am patient about the roll-out of the Airbus X. People grumble if a bugged-up Airbus is out too soon to the market and others grumble when the Airbus X is coming out too late...

Happy landings!

Vee One

[Alistair Webb 6]

30.08.10- thats 5 days after my birthday!!

aaah well, i can wait

[wind5urfer 32]

I love this company and the way it handles things! And i don't mind a delayed release to fix bugs, but after 2 months from initial release date the nav lights still haven't been fixed? That seems a little odd to me, maybe you can explain that? And i'm not calling my self an expert on development by any means. I just hope these problems can be solved quickly. From what i've heard designing an Airbus in FSX is no walk in the park. Nonetheless I hope you keep working hard! And you have my full support!

- Harvey

[limp 29]

Don't worry nothing like airsimmer...

[LH747 60]

Maybe, that´s the curse of Airbus-simulations (; Just kidding, I think they just want to release a product without bugs and so it´s worth to wait.

regards

Max

[cbd80 258]

hi,

what is about the fps while takeoff at LOWI?

From the cockpit in Airbus X is get 22-28fps on the runway at LOWI and it's smooth. Sliders to max except Autogen to Very Dense.

Chris

[cbd80 258]

Hi guys,

i am only intertested in an advanced version, but will the advanced addition be a stand alone, or will there be a small upgrade from the base pack?

I am just thinking of the atrosity that airsimmer have done, by releasing a basic, and then going to charge another complete product for the advanced

Hi Ridgey. From what Mathijs has previously said if (and if) an advanced version is produced it is likely to be as a small upgrade with a small cost. But to be honest, the basic version does offer alot of depth. I like advanced versions too, and this version should appeal to advanced users too.

It really comes down to some features lacking in the MCDU, but most of which are lacking are the little parameters you'd have to get reference tables out for, and don't really add any realism to the sim. You can still input your flight plan yourself, which I always find a big plus (though in reality pilots will load a default and edit it).

As for the rest of the systems the Airbus is so automated it really takes care of itself. There aren't alot of buttons to pressed, switches to be clicked etc like on the legacy aircraft, which typically PMDG have done to date.

Hopefully, you'll be surprised!

Chris

[Rónán O Cadhain 71]

As for the rest of the systems the Airbus is so automated it really takes care of itself. There aren't alot of buttons to pressed, switches to be clicked etc like on the legacy aircraft, which typically PMDG have done to date.

Hopefully, you'll be surprised!

Chris

There may not be alot a buttons that need to be pressed, but there are alot of buttons that could be pressed.

One of my favorite things about PMDG and the like is when my freinds come around I can flick as many switches as I like

and make myself seem REALLY smart and like I know almost everything about planes even if I am only flicking the

air conditioning switches...

but thats just me.

[cbd80 258]

There may not be alot a buttons that need to be pressed, but there are alot of buttons that could be pressed.

One of my favorite things about PMDG and the like is when my freinds come around I can flick as many switches as I like

and make myself seem REALLY smart and like I know almost everything about planes even if I am only flicking the

air conditioning switches...

but thats just me.

Indeed. I meant the Airbus in general doesn't have alot of buttons switches in comparison. With Airbus X you can still play with the air cond knobs if you like

Some (currently) don't do anything, but you're not missing out on much.

But it is a case of each to their own

Chris

[AA777-200ER 553]

If the Airbus is delayed, so be it...just get it right!

Please, please Aerosoft...don't promote (hype) a product until it's much further along in the development stage!

First Amsterdam and now the Airbus...Darryl

PS...how about a PMDG Box Sale for the US...like you had in Europe last week!

[Jeroen Rutgers-Herenius 167]

If the Airbus is delayed, so be it...just get it right!

Working hard to do so.....

Please, please Aerosoft...don't promote (hype) a product until it's much further along in the development stage!

There I have to correct you, Aerosoft doesn't hype, it's sharing projects that are in the pipeline....

First Amsterdam and now the Airbus...Darryl

As Mathijs explained before: Eham is developed outside Aerosoft, the bus in-company, the two can't be compared...

[Jeroen Rutgers-Herenius 167]

Is there a problem with programming some systems or so? Don´t get me wrong, take the time you need to release this bird, but I thought it would be close to release?

best wishes

Max

Mathijs can explain better, but sometimes unexpected things turn up. There are no major problems, just going the extra mile to get everything right. Some things take some time to get exactly right. The fact that FSX is more a Boeing, then an Airbus simulator contributes to that.... I am convinced the end product will be worth the waiting, but for now patience is the key word

[yankeesji 38]

Good stuff posted today...I enjoyed the reading....

As an american, I am not sure what these words mean...Can someone explain?

"Paddy"

"Pram"

Both posted by folks not in the US..

Cheers.

[saprintz 82]

Is there a problem with programming some systems or so? Don´t get me wrong, take the time you need to release this bird, but I thought it would be close to release?

best wishes

Max

No, there's no kind of overall system hurdle that we've encountered. It's much more like small things that go across systems, things just interconnected within the whole mass of logic in more ways than predicted. This aircraft is incredibly "integrated," more so than most anything that I've seen in FS addons. It is almost as if there aren't separate systems at all, but instead just one big brain with several windows into it. (That's true of any airliner, of course, but I'm talking a matter of degree here.)

A change in our autopilot code, for example, may require complementary changes in the flight model... okay, not surprising... but then all of a sudden you realize you've now gotta change something that you *thought* was finished in the PFD. And once you do that, then the Nav Display's gotta be modified too, since those two displays are so connected... and then since the MCDU is so highly integrated with the ND, IT must now change (again) too, and so on. I think you see what I mean. It's very rewarding when we get the different parts properly sync'd up and 'parallel', but it does take time. And I think it is ultimately to the benefit of the simmer. We all (the developers) would LOVE to just keep going deeper and deeper (trust me!), and we have in fact gone deeper than 1st planned. But, for every one layer of depth added, there are two or more layers of complexity that demand to come along too. It's a disproportionate kind of thing, with a delicate balance. (I recently made the TCAS a little more complex, for example... and it took much more time than the basic logic of the changes would imply. Maddening almost.)

So, no, there are no major system hurdles. Not at all. There are just more small loose ends than a company like Aerosoft would ever consider putting "out there" for the public to test. I know people are anxious, and now disappointed. But I'm sure they'll love the product, too, and then this all won't matter. Once flying this plane, the kind of system interconnection and entanglement I'm talking about will be obvious... and in a good way!! And the delays will probably make a lot more sense then, too. For now... just try to hang in there if you can.

[John Glanville 821]

Good stuff posted today...I enjoyed the reading....

As an american, I am not sure what these words mean...Can someone explain?

"Paddy"

"Pram"

Both posted by folks not in the US..

Cheers.

I am a Brit but live in Holland .

You know what they say , The Brits and Americans , separated by a common language .

I assume that a " paddy " apart from being an Irishman , means tantrum ( paddy being a local dialect of the poster ) , or as you would call it , a " sissy-fit " .

" Pram " is a pushchair for a baby .

Hope this helps .

John

[yankeesji 38]

I am a Brit but live in Holland .

You know what they say , The Brits and Americans , separated by a common language .

I assume that a " paddy " apart from being an Irishman , means tantrum ( paddy being a local dialect of the poster ) , or as you would call it , a " sissy-fit " .

" Pram " is a pushchair for a baby .

Hope this helps .

John

Haha...Thanks John..

Tantrum - Temper Tantrum

Pushchair - Stroller

[Stewart 134]

This is like teasing a dog with food and then taking it away...Darryl

If that's how you feel you have a simple solution available to you. Dont sit begging at the table

[yankeesji 38]

Haha...Thanks John..

Tantrum - Temper Tantrum

Pushchair - Stroller

I'm not sure why somebody would give this post a negative marking...Really?

Some peoples kids...

[Alistair Webb 6]

i have bought some bxed products from justflight, byt they wouldnt install because the safedisk validation softwaer wouldnt work.

will i experience a similar problem with boxed products from aerosoft?

[Bizzy 20]

The release box date is 30.08.10

but the release download is ????

Thanks

[Aerosoft Team [Inactive Account] 51562]

If the Airbus is delayed, so be it...just get it right!

Please, please Aerosoft...don't promote (hype) a product until it's much further along in the development stage!

First Amsterdam and now the Airbus...Darryl

PS...how about a PMDG Box Sale for the US...like you had in Europe last week!

Well AA777-200ER, you don't have to read these forums, you could also simply wait until the product appears in the shop.

[Aerosoft Team [Inactive Account] 51562]

Well we missed a deadline, rather a big one as the consequences are bigger then just a delay. See we are seriously only a few days from having the Airbus X in release candidate stage but those few days simply are not there. At least one of the team has to start on another project that will last 6 or 7 weeks. Now locking the whole team and myself in an office with Jolt, pizza and a cattle prod would probably deliver something but it would not be fun and it is not Aerosoft's style. Instead I'll more or less put this project on ice for 6 weeks and we'll pick it up in July and complete it. See in contrast to most development teams that do addons for FSX, we got many projects, some of them professionally (a lot for the defense industry) and these are time sensitive in that way that contracts will be canceled if we do not deliver in time. So we move our people between these projects.

Release August 1st in download. Sorry. Mea culpa.

So did we have delays? Yeah sure. Though many parts of the projects went smooth we underestimated the coding that went into the systems. They are so interconnected in the airbus and FSX so tuned to Boeing systems it was a struggle until we decided how to handle things. Now you know us as a company that is rather open and honest about the internal projects, we like to show how things are done, what progress is made etc. We know customers like that. It also means that when we run into issues like this it is painfully obvious and bites you in the behind.

There is only one thing that's good about this all and that is the fact I have been looking for the opportunity to take a few days off and that's possible now. I'll keep this topic locked while I am away to prevent impromptu responses as we seen in the last few days that I will not be able to respond to. Next week we'll reopen and we'll even have some nice new things to show (like the checklists running on an iPad).