Developer OPabst 2091 Posted September 8, 2009 Developer Share Posted September 8, 2009 Hi, I bought Tegel and was very glad with the quality, BUT: I get a CTD when approaching runway 26 (R/L), haven't tried the 8's. As soon as I get landing clearance, FS9 crashes. It also takes very long to load the airport. The textures get loaded about 5-6 miles out of the threshold, on an all clear day! (no cloud's filling up my VRAM). Coming to the conclusion that in this way, Berlin Tegel is pretty useless for me. Has anyone experienced similar problems? I have a GTS250 512MB, a E8400 3,0GHZ, 4GB 800MHz DDR2 of RAM and a Samsung F1 harddrive. Software: FS9.1, UTE, VFR Berlin 2006. Kind regards. Did you read the discussions above about other Afcads still active? Did you check that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Brouwer 8 Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 Yes I did. I searched in the AFCAD programme by Lee Swordy for EDDT, and could only find one. The static-airplanes-one is correctly disabled. (.bgx) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Brouwer 8 Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 I'm currently flying exactly the same route (FRA-TXL) with exactly the same plane (B733 Lufthansa, Wilco), but now during nighttime. Also weather has changed, so I'll have to land at 08L. I have changed the order in which the SC and LC folders were put in the scenery.cfg, as they didn't seem to be right looking at how other GAP have been installed. I'll keep you informed about the results! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Brouwer 8 Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 Just landed, and it was a great experience! Approaching over beautifully illuminated city (Ultimate Terrain), and landing on the very, very beautiful Tegel was pure joy. The textures are of amazing hi-resolution, at least they seem to be! I didn't suffer CTD now. Don't know if thats because of the changes I made in the scenery.cfg, different textures to be used or approaching from the other side. I hope to test more coming week, and keep you informed about the results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarebus 29 Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 . I have changed the order in which the SC and LC folders were put in the scenery.cfg, as they didn't seem to be right looking at how other GAP have been installed. I'll keep you informed about the results! I noticed that too. Usually the LC is lower than the SC in the scenery.cfg but I have left as it is. Not had a chance to do any more flights since. Lets us know how you get on. Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Brouwer 8 Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 Well, there it was again. Loaded my flight on gate A09 on TXL, left the airport via runway 08R for a flight to FRA, followed the SID which made me turn 180 and approach back to the airport. I approached the airport, was almost above it and.. CTD! So I have 3 CTD's on EDDT, all of them during daytime and approaching from the east. Haven't tried approaching from the west at daytime yet, only during nighttime which went fine. With UTE and VFR Berlin 2006 enabled. There must be really something wrong here, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Brouwer 8 Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 And number four happened to me too. To reconstruct, take-off from runway 08L or 08R. Fly straight forward until the scenery disappears. (quite quick, already after 7-8miles or so it's gone). Then make a 180turn leftbound, and fly heading 260. It comes back into view about 7 miles away. Then, when you're about 2-3 miles north east of the airport: wham! My fs9 crashes. :-( It happens in a lot of different planes, so that is not the cause. I reinstalled VFR Berlin and Tegel, to see if that would make any difference. Not as it seems. Really sorry about this, I was so looking forward to flying from and towards Tegel. Of the four wilco 737 flights I tried, only one arrived safely. Next to that, testing with the Ollson F16, Realair SF260 and C172 all gave the same disappointing result: CTD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Fletcher 570 Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 Hello Erik, You say you can do the flight at night okay,do you have any 3rd party ground textures installed such as FScene or similar, if so try putting the default ground textures back into FS9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Brouwer 8 Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 It looks like disabling VFR Berlin 2006 (version 3.2a) did the job. No CTD's during testing hour. How is this going to be solved? Disabling VFR2006 is out of the question, since I specially bought Tegel to use it with that add-on! it really makes things look better, so I'd love to have both addons enabled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Brouwer 8 Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 Enabled VFR berlin again and suffered a CTD almost immediately after take-off. I'm now 99,9% sure VFR Berlin 2006 is the culprit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarebus 29 Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Since I removed the in active AFCAD form the Scenery folder and also deleted the EDDT Apron Extension scenery off the Scenery.cfg I have had no more CTD's and I have VFR Berlin 2006 installed, below EDDT. Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Brouwer 8 Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 Is anybody of Aerosoft willing to help me in solving my problem with the combination of EDDT and VFR Berlin? I'd like to be able to use them both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developer OPabst 2091 Posted September 13, 2009 Developer Share Posted September 13, 2009 Is anybody of Aerosoft willing to help me in solving my problem with the combination of EDDT and VFR Berlin? I'd like to be able to use them both. It could be helpful, when you give them the Module, which generate the CTD, like g3d.dll, fe.dll or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Brouwer 8 Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 It's exactly the same module as others experienced: ntdll.dll It always happens when approaching the airport from the east, the airport loads correctly about 7 miles away, and about 2-3 miles from the airport, you get a CTD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarebus 29 Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 It's exactly the same module as others experienced: ntdll.dll It always happens when approaching the airport from the east, the airport loads correctly about 7 miles away, and about 2-3 miles from the airport, you get a CTD. Hi Erik Have you removed the in-active AFCAD file out off the 'new' EDDT Scenery folder, also did you have the EDDT Apron Expansion 2 for the 'old' EDDT installed on top of GAP 3?? The reason I ask is because I removed the in-active AFCAD from the 'new' EDDT Scenery folder and also de-activated the 'old' EDDT Apron Expansion 2 from the Scenery.cfg and since then have not had anymore CTD's! Anyways I hope this helps...... Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Brouwer 8 Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 Hi, I removed the other afcad, but haven't got the terminal extension installed. (at least not that I know). How can I be sure? My FS-directory is about 70GB large, so it's quite difficult to locate. If you could point me to were it is installed in your directory, I could take a look. Were can I download the extension, so I can check the readme? Thanks in advance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarebus 29 Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 I installed it directly above GAP3 and you can get it off AVSIM, just search for EDDT Apron Extension. Hope this helps Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skelly18 0 Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 It's exactly the same module as others experienced: ntdll.dll It always happens when approaching the airport from the east, the airport loads correctly about 7 miles away, and about 2-3 miles from the airport, you get a CTD. Hi, I have exactly the same problem. I have both Tegel X and Berlin VFR installed on FS9. After take-off from rwy 8 I make a right turn about 120 degrees and get a CTD (the same happens when approaching the airport from the east). The error modules is ntdll.dll. Deactivating Berlin VFR seems to fix the problem. Doesn't seem to be an AFCAD issue as I only have one active and I never had the older GAP installed. I hope this problem can be fixed - for now I am using Tegel X without the VFR scenery, but I like many others I'm sure would love to use them together! Thanks, Sam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skelly18 0 Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 OK, so this time I tried removing the inactive AF2 file from Tegel X scenery folder (I had the 'with static' active, so I removed the 'without static'), and that seems to fix the problem for me. Have had a couple of test take-offs, both at night and in day, with Tegel X and Berlin VFR installed and no CTD! Sam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skelly18 0 Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 OK, so this time I tried removing the inactive AF2 file from Tegel X scenery folder (I had the 'with static' active, so I removed the 'without static'), and that seems to fix the problem for me. Have had a couple of test take-offs, both at night and in day, with Tegel X and Berlin VFR installed and no CTD! Sam I have the same problem again - I have just one AFCAD file active for Tegel X but I still get a CTD and ntdll.ll error after takeoff from EDDT (and approach from the east) when Berlin VFR is installed. Help! Sam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Brouwer 8 Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 I have the same, and I haven't had the terminal extension installed. Remove the VFR Berlin entries from the scenery.cfg. I bet your problems are over. But that is NOT acceptable! Is anyone at Aerosoft willing to help us troubleshoot at this one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skelly18 0 Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 I have the same, and I haven't had the terminal extension installed. Remove the VFR Berlin entries from the scenery.cfg. I bet your problems are over. But that is NOT acceptable! Is anyone at Aerosoft willing to help us troubleshoot at this one? Yes - simply deactivating the Berlin VFR in the scenery library fixed all the problems for me. Would be nice to have both together though - especially as they are both aerosoft products! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Fletcher 570 Posted September 20, 2009 Share Posted September 20, 2009 Hello Folks, Let me see if I can replicate this here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Fletcher 570 Posted September 22, 2009 Share Posted September 22, 2009 Hello Folks, Took off from 8R and turned to heading 120 and went for some miles and never experieinced a crash during the daylight hours. Do you folks have 3rd party ground textures installed like Fscene or any other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Brouwer 8 Posted September 22, 2009 Share Posted September 22, 2009 No, you should fly heading 080, till you can see the airport disappears (unloads) after a mile or 7. Then, you turn around 180 degrees left, heading 260. Then after a mile or 2, the airport loads again, and 2-3 miles out, wham! You should make sure you unload and load the airport again by flying away from it and coming back. I'm very curious about your results then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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