frontendrob 1 Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 Hi there,I have recently installed FSX on my new system, and I am kind of mad that even after 4 days of tweaking the settings I am stuck because of, as it seems to me, a stupid programming failure:When I fly above 10.000 feet, I can achieve well over 30 FPS, but the ground textures tend to get a blurred mess after a few minutes. So I set the Target Frame Rate to 25, and it works: solid 25 FPS and visibly better texture loading, no more or at least much less blurries. This is especially obvious when flying with highend VFR scenery such as Aerosoft's VFR Germany.However, once I am on final, or even on the ground, the Target Frame Rate kills my FPS. Sitting at 25R at EDDF I get 20FPS with unlimited frames, when I keep my Target Frame Rate of 25 however, it creeps along at 14FPS. Same goes for any airport or below 10.000 feet situation, so basically I have to turn on/off the Target Frame Rate at least twice in a flight.So obviously, the Target Frame Rate is a broken software feature, as it is simply not doing what it is suposed to do, its makes no sense to me that it kills my FPS on the ground, ESPECIALLY on the ground as there isnt any texture loading to do whatsoever!!I would really appreciate any suggestions.My system: 3.06 Ghz Core 2 Duo, 512MB 8800M GTS, 4 GB (/3GB switch), Windows XP SP2, FSX SP2.Running in 1920x1200, did the notorious Autogen hacks incl. the lightened Default.xml. Texture resolution is set to only 1 meter!Greetings,Robert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerosoft Aerosoft Team [Inactive Account] 51558 Posted October 6, 2008 Aerosoft Share Posted October 6, 2008 Hi there,I have recently installed FSX on my new system, and I am kind of mad that even after 4 days of tweaking the settings I am stuck because of, as it seems to me, a stupid programming failure:When I fly above 10.000 feet, I can achieve well over 30 FPS, but the ground textures tend to get a blurred mess after a few minutes. So I set the Target Frame Rate to 25, and it works: solid 25 FPS and visibly better texture loading, no more or at least much less blurries. This is especially obvious when flying with highend VFR scenery such as Aerosoft's VFR Germany.However, once I am on final, or even on the ground, the Target Frame Rate kills my FPS. Sitting at 25R at EDDF I get 20FPS with unlimited frames, when I keep my Target Frame Rate of 25 however, it creeps along at 14FPS. Same goes for any airport or below 10.000 feet situation, so basically I have to turn on/off the Target Frame Rate at least twice in a flight.So obviously, the Target Frame Rate is a broken software feature, as it is simply not doing what it is suposed to do, its makes no sense to me that it kills my FPS on the ground, ESPECIALLY on the ground as there isnt any texture loading to do whatsoever!!I would really appreciate any suggestions.My system: 3.06 Ghz Core 2 Duo, 512MB 8800M GTS, 4 GB (/3GB switch), Windows XP SP2, FSX SP2.Running in 1920x1200, did the notorious Autogen hacks incl. the lightened Default.xml. Texture resolution is set to only 1 meter!Greetings,RobertI started writing that this was highly unlikely but then decided to check in a few location. And I am surprised to see you are right, a total surprise to me.I am not sure what this implies, but I could not see any bad effect from using the unlimited settings at ground level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frontendrob 1 Posted October 6, 2008 Author Share Posted October 6, 2008 I started writing that this was highly unlikely but then decided to check in a few location. And I am surprised to see you are right, a total surprise to me.I am not sure what this implies, but I could not see any bad effect from using the unlimited settings at ground level.It seems everyone who made this test comes to the same conclusion (FPS digits are just examples):Unlimted Target FPS >> Actual FPS: 20FPS.Target FPS set to 25 >> Actual FPS: 12FPS.(While sitting on the Runway).Somebody else suggested that the Problem is MyTraffic 5.1b (or traffic in general), he set traffic to 0%, and suddenly the anomaly was gone. I will test this when I get home from work.But it would help if we had more people testing this strange observation. I think a workaround is needed, as going to settings and enabling/disabling the limiter is no option for me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerosoft Aerosoft Team [Inactive Account] 51558 Posted October 6, 2008 Aerosoft Share Posted October 6, 2008 It seems everyone who made this test comes to the same conclusion (FPS digits are just examples):Unlimted Target FPS >> Actual FPS: 20FPS.Target FPS set to 25 >> Actual FPS: 12FPS.(While sitting on the Runway).Somebody else suggested that the Problem is MyTraffic 5.1b (or traffic in general), he set traffic to 0%, and suddenly the anomaly was gone. I will test this when I get home from work.But it would help if we had more people testing this strange observation. I think a workaround is needed, as going to settings and enabling/disabling the limiter is no option for me...Well I don't have MyTraffic installed and even if I did, it it the same as default traffic just more dense and more correct. A work around would be needed for FSX, not for any addon. And don't hold your breath for any further FSX update. We are investigating if we can make a add-on for FSX that does this, but right now we are not sure if we can tweak the max FPS setting on the fly (so while FSX runs and is not paused). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frontendrob 1 Posted October 6, 2008 Author Share Posted October 6, 2008 It's great you are investigating, as we surely can't count on MS for any further patches. However, given the nature of this glitch, I believe it could be fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerosoft Aerosoft Team [Inactive Account] 51558 Posted October 6, 2008 Aerosoft Share Posted October 6, 2008 It's great you are investigating, as we surely can't count on MS for any further patches. However, given the nature of this glitch, I believe it could be fixed.Well, it depends. Some things can be changed while FSX runs, others need a reset of certain modules and others need a total restart. And we always got to keep in mind we are fixing bugs for MS and we can't do that without budget, some how it will be paid for by customers, even if we send something out for free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas29 5 Posted October 18, 2008 Share Posted October 18, 2008 Hello,Thank you Robert for your experiments, Since now i have flown (fly past ?, sorry no native speaker ) with a locked framerate (20-25 FPS), and wondered, why big airports like London Heathrow are such a big framehit, but now with unlocked frames I also get 18-20 Fps (if you turn around fast you can see how buildings pop up, but thats okay).My small solution would be to use FSUIPC4.., it goes on the nerves to use in flight the menu with the mouse, choose properties, Framerate..., but if you have only to press a key or button for lock Framerate 20...FPS/Unlock, the situation would be much better. Has anyone tried it with FSUIPC4 or whatever (Is it possible with the FSX settings?) to automate this function.Thanks for repliesMany Greetings Thomas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frontendrob 1 Posted October 19, 2008 Author Share Posted October 19, 2008 Thats would indeed be a bearable solution. I havent used that program yet, though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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