Hi there,

 

Firstly, thanks for offering this product. It really is a welcome change within the very Jeppessen-influenced flight simulation world.

 

However, using the product for quite some time now - both the chart viewer and AIRAC - and seeing what Navigraph has to offer somehow makes me a bit thoughtful, as to why no development is happening on NDPs end.

Let me make a list of some of the things that I noticed, and which, I think, would be great to improve:

 

• Dark Mode: In principle: Great feature. However, some of the colours are off thus far, as I would see them as a real safety risk when flying. For example: Have a look at the EDDF AGC Chart: N8, for example, has coloured lines. There is N8 Orange and N8 Blue. In the NDP Charts, however, in dark mode, these two colours are turned around. See the following video (of the real mPilot): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7i3SYpwyhA. Generally, most of the dark colours aren't as dark as in NDP. Would it be possible to brighten all of that up a bit?
• Chart-Revisions: If there is a Chart Revision, both of the Charts, so both the old and the new are displayed within the NDP Charts APP for quite some time (beyond the actual effective date), for example, see multiple current EDDL Charts. As this isn't indicated anywhere within the Charts APP, except on the Chart itself, this also is perplexing, and basically, it's a "hit-and-miss". And also, the new chart isn't always above the old chart, or below the old chart. No, it seems to be some random thing determining which chart is on top...
• SID-Charts: For Airports, with complex SID Setups, the SIDs are on one chart. This, however, can also be rather confusing at times, as many SIDs are on one chart. The real mPilot displays only one SID per Chart, and "darkens" the other ones, see also the Video I referenced above. Would it be possible to also get such a feature?
• Geo-Referenced Charts: I remember that one time, it was already possible to have Geo-Referenced Charts on the IAC with P3D; however, I can't find anything to that any more. Was the development of that feature abandoned? Could this be continued with P3D and also the AGC/APC Charts, where it also would be a great asset? 
• En-Route Charts: Right now, we have multiple En-Route Charts we have to open up, and so on. Would it be possible to get a En-Route Moving Map, similar to the one Navigraph uses, and similar to the real mPilot?
• AIRAC: The Fenix A320 released approximately 10 months ago. There still is no NDP AIRAC available. Why is that so? Only very minor adjustments to the ProSimSQLLite AIRAC would be required, but still, do you not want to take these to support one of the most important products within the Flight-Simulation World currently? And also, the general MSFS AIRAC is also not supported, talking about that. Do you want to abandon this simulator completely concerning this product?
• The Mobile APP, at least from my experience, the iPad APP, and from stories also the Android APP are way behind their PC counterparts. Is there any update planned to also support Dark mode, and to fix the numerous bugs, which have already been mentioned in other threads?

 

I think that's it for the first part. Seeing what Navigraph offers, for basically only 6 Euros per month* more, (!) makes me sorrowful, as I was always a big fan of all the LIDO products, however, seeing that nothing is happening here, I will have to think how I will continue regarding this product after my subscription expires. 

 

*Disclaimer: I fully see that comparing the prices here does not make much sense, as probably you and Navigraph obtain the root-material at different prices, however, Navigraph also only had a minimal price increase after releasing all of their new features within the Chart Apps, while your Chart Viewer basically is nothing much more than a glamorous PDF Viewer with a Dark-Mode Plugin. Sorry, for having to say that, but it really is the case at the moment. I could basically buy a one-day subscription for all the charts at the beginning of each AIRAC, print them to PDF and organize them myself, and would basically have the same product, perhaps even with less annoying bugs, at least on tablets. 

 

If you read up to that point, thanks a lot! I hope to see some improvements very soon!

 

Best regards and have a nice Sunday. 

Thanks for these comments. printed and on my desk.

I'd like to provide some additional feedback regarding the NDP Chart-App for Android.

Looking at the picture below, you can notice a heavy distortion of the chart. This only happens for charts which are turned sideways in their unaltered standard view - so you tilt them in order to view the chart in the desired orientation. So far so good.
Following issue now arises: Zooming in and out using the two-finger-gestures (after the chart has been tilted) works perfectly at first. However, the mentioned distortion is triggered as soon as you close the respective chart, reopen it and initiate a zoom-gesture. The only way to fix the issue is to completely close the application and reopen it.

Possible helpful note: This does NOT happen for charts whose the orientation is already correct without having to tilt it - i.e. the tilting and zooming wont cause any distortion for those charts!
                                  I'd be happy to provide a video per E-mail demonstrating the bug.

ad 1) A tilt option for the iPad app would also be a necessary addition

ad 2) the online version of the chart viewer also suffers the same distortion bug

Noted.

Hi! Since there have been changes in the Aerosoft staff, I just wanted to give a little heads-up and emphasise how important changes in the NDP app and overall services are. I am aware that the A330 has priority atm, but still a simple confirmation that it is being considered to improve and update the NDP services would be appreciated.

Thanks and Kind regards! 

Hopefully to hear back an update on this soon

Hi,

 

I know it's been a while, but I can confirm updates are still planned for NDP. We'll have some more to share on this in the future as work progresses.

New year! Wondering if there are any updates as regards to an overhaul to NDP? The app is borderline unusable, and I'm struggling to get the actual Nav Dataset to download. Poor performance. I hope to see an update to NDP (charts especially) soon, as the LIDO is an amazing selling point since many European airlines use it. An app design similar to mPilot would be outstanding ;).