amerck245 0 Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 Oliver,Just wanted to say a big Thank you for this great Add on! I have to say when I fly into Airports that are not yet supported I miss it tremendously now! This is one of the greatest add-ons for FS!!I wanted to ask you if there are any plans to add a ground crew escorting the plain in and out of the gate area. At this point AES has only the one guy that talks to you and gives you the thumbs up when ready to roll out but as I'm sure you're aware usually when a plane pulls in/out of the gate there are two additional Ground crew (one on each wing guiding the plane). Any chance we will be seeing that in any of your upcoming updates?Again thanks for a Great Add to the world of FS!!Best Regards,Dean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HBukovac 0 Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 Nice idea. But "Wingwalkers" are not a common procedure on every airport. Actually I have only seen them in the U.S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cris B. 120 Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 Nice idea. But "Wingwalkers" are not a common procedure on every airport. Actually I have only seen them in the U.S.I have only seen them at busy, crowded U.S. airports like JFK, O'Hare, LAX, and the like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amerck245 0 Posted April 13, 2008 Author Share Posted April 13, 2008 Guys,I used to see them at busy airports too, but lately (more that a year now) I have seen them at smaller airports like KISP, KHPN. First I started to think that it must be a US or FAA requirement but after a trip last year at MMUN (Cancun), TNCM (St. Maarten), and this year at TISX (St. Croix) I've seen them on each and every one of these airports. Yes I know that the Caribbean is frequent w/ US airlines so they might follow those requirements and technically St. Croix is the US Virgin Islands but it was funny that our plane was the only one at the ramp during arrival and departure and yet they were escorting the plane in and out of the parking position!I hope someone that works at an airport (maybe as ground crew) or a pilot (hopefully International) can shed some light to this. Is it a US phenomenon or "Wingwalkers" are a standard on other airports now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverbird 15 Posted April 13, 2008 Share Posted April 13, 2008 I believe I did ask once here about that option don't remember while some users don't care for it I know others will but at least having the option would be really cool to have and fun to watch on videos screen shots and spot view I used to work at the ramp a few years ago I did push-back the plane and we would at least have 1 wing walker to make sure the plane is safe and that there is nothing in my way or if there's something I cant see there are some airports with really tights spots to push-back and you have to be extremely careful so they have them in small and big airports Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HBukovac 0 Posted April 13, 2008 Share Posted April 13, 2008 I hope someone that works at an airport (maybe as ground crew) or a pilot (hopefully International) can shed some light to this. Is it a US phenomenon or "Wingwalkers" are a standard on other airports now?I work at Frankfurt Airport and I am heavily involved in operations not only in Frankfurt. Wingwalkers are no common practise over here. We do have northamerican airlines that ask for this but we don´t do it. It might be a FAA-Regulation but this is for the US only. I don´t even think it´s a real regulation, I think it´s more like a recommendation. So if the airport decides that it´s a good idea and they have enough manpower to do it...hey...that´s up to them. Nevertheless I like your idea and it would really look cool. So I support it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverbird 15 Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 I work at Frankfurt Airport and I am heavily involved in operations not only in Frankfurt. Wingwalkers are no common practise over here. We do have northamerican airlines that ask for this but we don´t do it. It might be a FAA-Regulation but this is for the US only. I don´t even think it´s a real regulation, I think it´s more like a recommendation. So if the airport decides that it´s a good idea and they have enough manpower to do it...hey...that´s up to them. Nevertheless I like your idea and it would really look cool. So I support it. HI Heiko you are correct its not a FAA Regulation but it is a choice of the airlines. I kinda find it strange its not a faa Regulation only reason I say that is that it makes perfect since having someone watch the aircraft by the wings just to make sure its safe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoxFlyer89 0 Posted April 17, 2008 Share Posted April 17, 2008 Generally wing walkers are used when there is less than 10 feet between an aircraft wing and anything else (another aircraft, tug, buildings, etc). It is not an FAA regulation, but the use of wing walkers is cheap considering damage to wings can be several hundred thousand dollars. This is how we operate at Mesa Airlines, and how most US airlines operate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HBukovac 0 Posted April 17, 2008 Share Posted April 17, 2008 KORD has this topic in its manual: http://www.ohare.com/cnrc/ohare/GREProceduresRev.PDF10.3 Wing-Walkers It is recommended that two wing-walkers (one on eachside) be present during the tow-in/tow-out or power-in/power-out operationwhen using the GRE. The wing-walkers will give visual direction to thepilot, mechanic, or tow-tractor operator until the aircraft has cleared theoperational limits of the GRE. The use of wing-walkers is at the discretionof the individual airlines.Like I said before Wing walkers are a common practice in the U.S, recommended by the FAA and part of most U.S-airport-regulations. But they are not generally used in the rest of the world. EDDF is a very busy airport too and we don´t have wing walkers and we haven´t had a wing-damage in years. I believe that training and experienced tow-truck-drivers prevent accidents as well as wing walkers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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