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I still get freezes of the WASM when flying. I first thought it is a Navigraph issue. I can also add, that the freezes are only happen at bigger STARS/APPROACHES.

 

Happened at LPMA / BIGPI2X / RNAV Y 05

 

and

 

VQPR / SUBSU1 / RNAV Z 15

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This bug is the reason why me and my friends are not using the airplane anymore. Too often this end in a frustration after a long flight while entering arrivals.  Hab another freeze today - for t

Inputting the fms, randomly freezes and non of the controls work or show. Flight model freezes but doesnt ctd. Strange. 

I experienced this problem as well. Flying from EDDF to EDDB, I was enroute on FL250 preparing the Arrival on the FMC. On the EDDB Arrival Page I clicked "DEP/ARR IDX" and suddenly the instruments fro

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On 6/4/2021 at 12:28 PM, Jannis D. said:

I still get freezes of the WASM when flying. I first thought it is a Navigraph issue. I can also add, that the freezes are only happen at bigger STARS/APPROACHES.

 

Happened at LPMA / BIGPI2X / RNAV Y 05

 

and

 

VQPR / SUBSU1 / RNAV Z 15

 

RNAV Y 05 is an RNP/AR approach they have stated that there are issues loading RNP approaches...  Don't use an RNP approach....

 

RNAV Z 15 -- again another RNP approach that the CRJ would not even have in the FMS IRL...  The FMS can't deal with these legs as stated in other threads...

 

 

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vor 15 Stunden , LesOReilly sagte:

 

RNAV Y 05 is an RNP/AR approach they have stated that there are issues loading RNP approaches...  Don't use an RNP approach....

 

RNAV Z 15 -- again another RNP approach that the CRJ would not even have in the FMS IRL...  The FMS can't deal with these legs as stated in other threads...

 

 

Okay, thanks. But that is strange. Why can I fly the RNP's then?

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27 minutes ago, Jannis D. said:

Okay, thanks. But that is strange. Why can I fly the RNP's then?

 

That's just the way the CRJ FMS was designed. When the CRJ was built RNP approaches weren't a thing so they weren't designed into the FMS.

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vor 4 Stunden , Chaxterium sagte:

 

That's just the way the CRJ FMS was designed. When the CRJ was built RNP approaches weren't a thing so they weren't designed into the FMS.

But a simcrash is not the solution :D

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2 hours ago, Jannis D. said:

But a simcrash is not the solution :D

There are numerous threads on this ...  There is nothing in the Data that they can access that allows them to filter out the RNP approaches.  They have stated here that it causes and issue as it is not coded or able to calculate the legs...

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On 6/6/2021 at 2:09 PM, Jannis D. said:

But a simcrash is not the solution :D

The “solution” is to filter all RNP approaches out of the FMS so they do not appear as selectable options on the ARR page, which is what is done in the real CRJ. We cannot currently do that because of the way the nav database is coded in the sim.

 

VQPR is a special case. Obviously in the sim, you can do anything you like with your aircraft, and I admit it is a fun and challenging approach - but no real CRJ could ever land there.
 

Even a standard Airbus A320 or 737NG cannot land at VQPR, and both of those aircraft types are fully capable of conducting most complex RNP/AR approaches.
 

There are only 5 individual Airbus A319s that can fly the Paro approaches - two owned by Bhutan Airlines, and three by Druk Air. All five have special FMS software and autopilot modifications specifically for the approaches at this one airport.

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RNP approach is a subset of RNAV approaches. So to answer your question, RNP approaches only that contain RF legs within them. Also the CRJ cannot fly the vertical profile of any RNAV approach automatically.

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Can confirm that this is still an issue. I had a flight plan from Brisbane (YBBN) to Townsville (YBTL) following the BIXAD1 - 19L departure. When it came to adding the arrival SPAR1A, the CRJ did not respond to any control manipulations. After resetting the flight I manually added waypoints and then encountered the NOT FOUND issue described previously when i added the GLA VOR. Also adding in other waypoints after that seemed to erase large chunks of the loaded departure. Here are full details:

 

msfs v 1.71.3.0

crj: 700 with QANTASLINK VH-YQV v1.2 livery by davidcherrie 

route: YBBN BIXAD1-19L GUDSO TAPET LOAFA GLA MURPH LINSU JEMMA TL SPAR1A-ILS01Z

addons: none

 

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