Juan Pastor 0 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Can someone explain why the flight level change does not happen in SUVOX but in TURUX? Please login to display this image. According to the German AIP: Please login to display this image. Juan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srcooke 421 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Hello Juan, Tested with NG2101 and AS2002 AIRAC data here and get a correct result: (FPL-DF34B-IN -SF34/L-SDFGIRY/S -EDDH1725 -N0272F240 BASUM M170 OSN Z718 SUVOX/N0281F200 Z850 VEBAK -EDLN0103 EHBK -PBN/A1B1C1L1 NAV/RNVD2E5A2 DOF/210223 REG/DF34B EET/EDGG0036 -E/0157) AIRAC cycle and provider ? Aircraft performance file in use? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juan Pastor 0 Posted February 23, 2021 Author Share Posted February 23, 2021 Hello, Last AIRAC from NAVIGRAPH in use: Please login to display this image. I attach the Aircraft and AircraftType. Juan SAAB340.txt Saab 340B.txt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srcooke 421 Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 I have not been able to reproduce your outcome using the supplied files Juan, tested with a range of payloads and speeds and different weather sources, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juan Pastor 0 Posted March 2, 2021 Author Share Posted March 2, 2021 I have reinstalled PFPX from scratch and I got a new issue related to this topic: no transition from even to odd FL at CIV even if it shown in the Charts graph: ******************************************************************************** F O R I N F O R M A T I O N O N L Y ******************************************************************************** AIRBILBAO VA FLIGHTPLAN - IFR ABI239 SAAB340 EDLN-LFRG -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ALL WEIGHTS IN KILOGRAMS (KG) STD 07MAR/2130Z -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- OFP 1 - PREPARED 02MAR/1125Z BY JUAN LUIS PASTOR (ABI239) BL00000/ABI239 SAAB340/SF340B ROUTE: EDLNLFRG01 DEP: EDLN/MGL 13 ELEV 125 FT CRUISE: MAX TTL G/C DIST: 268 NM ARR: LFRG/DOL 30 ELEV 479 FT INIT ALT: FL240 TTL F/P DIST: 288 NM FUEL BIAS: 100.0% TTL AIR DIST: 280 NM AVG WIND CMP: TL008 KT ALT: LFOH/LEH 04 ELEV 313 FT 64 NM ALT: LFQQ/LIL 01 ELEV 157 FT 151 NM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CONFIG DOW PAX CARGO TOTAL ULOAD LIM ZFW TOW LDW STANDARD 8140 34 0 3264 593 TOW MAX 12020 13155 12930 PLN 11404 12562 12028 ACT ...... ...... ...... FUEL CORR ENDUR TRIP 534 ........ 01:13 CONT 7% 37 ........ 00:06 ALTN LFQQ 315 ........ 00:45 MISSED APP 80 ........ 00:12 HOLD 192 ........ 00:30 MIN T/O 1158 ........ 02:47 ..................................... EXTRA ...... ........ ..... CAPTAINS SIGNATURE (....) TAXI 60 ........ 00:15 RELEASE 1218 ........ 03:02 I ACCEPT THIS OFP AND I AM FAMILIAR ARR FUEL 604 ........ 01:28 WITH THE PLANNED ROUTE AND AERODROMES FUEL TANK CAP 2580 KG / MAX EXTRA FUEL 593 KG LIM BY TOW TRIP CORR FOR 250 KG TOW INCR: +3 KG / 250 KG TOW DECR: -3 KG 2000 FT LOWER: +15 KG / EET 01:12 CLB: NORM SPEED DES: 50/220 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- EDLN STD 21:30Z/22:30L ETD 21:30Z ACT OFBL .... EST T/O 21:45Z ACT T/O .... LFRG STA 23:00Z/00:00L ETA 23:03Z ACT ONBL .... EST LDG 22:58Z ACT LDG .... SKD 01:30 PLN 01:33 TTL BLCK .... EST FLT 01:13 TTL FLT .... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ATC ROUTE: N0272F240 MODR9M MODRU Z717 MAS UM617 ROBAL M617 CMB R50 OBIVA/N0283F180 R50 DPE DPE4D ALTERNATE PLANNING -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ALTN/RWY DIST ALT/FL MSA COMP TIME FUEL DIFF ROUTE LFOH/04 64 FL110 021 TL004 00:22 177 -138 ETRA4W ETRAT A34 DVL LFQQ/01 151 FL240 028 HD006 00:45 315 - ABB ABB5A MOST CRITICAL MORA 3600 FT AT GOBNO -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AWY WAYPOINT MT ALT MSA FREQ TAS LEG FUEL REM / USED LEG ACC -FIR NAME ISA WND/SPD GS REM POSITION ETO / ATO -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- EDLN/13 125 022 1158 / 60 MOENCHENGLADBACH 288 N5114.0 E00629.9 ...../..... MODR9M LN135 127 *CLB 022 5 1124 / 93 03 00.03 M01 109/013 283 N5110.6 E00636.7 ...../..... MODR9M LN137 218 *CLB 022 9 1091 / 127 04 00.07 P06 128/014 274 N5103.5 E00627.1 ...../..... MODR9M MODRU 258 *CLB 022 14 1053 / 165 04 00.11 P01 119/015 260 N5101.1 E00605.4 ...../..... Z717 GOBNO 239 *CLB 036 4 1042 / 175 01 00.12 -EHAA P01 120/018 255 N5058.9 E00559.4 ...../..... Z717 MAS 239 *CLB 036 108.60 1 1039 / 179 00 00.12 MAASTRICHT P01 120/018 254 N5058.3 E00557.6 ...../..... UM617 ANETS 252 *CLB 036 9 1019 / 198 03 00.15 -EBBU M00 121/017 245 N5055.9 E00544.2 ...../..... UM617 *BDRY 252 *CLB 036 3 1013 / 205 01 00.16 -EBUR M00 123/017 242 N5055.1 E00539.4 ...../..... UM617 SOGRI 252 *CLB 036 24 968 / 250 07 00.23 M02 138/017 218 N5048.4 E00502.7 ...../..... UM617 *TOC 252 FL240 036 272 2 964 / 254 00 00.23 M02 139/017 279 216 N5047.8 E00459.3 ...../..... UM617 BUPAL 252 FL240 028 272 15 941 / 277 04 00.27 M02 139/017 279 200 N5043.4 E00436.1 ...../..... UM617 SISGA 252 FL240 028 273 22 909 / 309 04 00.31 M02 139/019 279 179 N5037.1 E00403.4 ...../..... UM617 CIV 251 *DES 028 113.20 9 896 / 322 02 00.33 CHIEVRES M02 139/020 170 N5034.4 E00350.0 ...../..... UM617 ROBAL 230 *DES 022 10 882 / 336 02 00.35 -LFFF M01 136/020 160 N5028.4 E00338.0 ...../..... M617 CMB 230 *DES 022 112.60 24 850 / 368 05 00.40 CAMBRAI EPINOY M00 125/020 136 N5013.7 E00309.1 ...../..... R50 *TOD 263 FL180 022 283 3 848 / 369 01 00.41 P00 122/020 300 133 N5013.4 E00304.0 ...../..... R50 OBIVA 263 FL180 028 283 22 812 / 406 04 00.45 M00 122/021 300 111 N5011.0 E00230.4 ...../..... R50 ABB 263 FL180 028 108.45 284 25 771 / 447 05 00.50 ABBEVILLE M00 125/021 299 86 N5008.1 E00151.3 ...../..... R50 DPE 244 FL180 025 115.80 284 29 721 / 497 06 00.56 DIEPPE M01 126/020 293 57 N4955.5 E00110.2 ...../..... DPE4D TANCA 227 *DES 025 36 673 / 544 08 01.04 P03 124/014 21 N4931.3 E00029.1 ...../..... DPE4D DVL 208 *DES 021 110.20 14 657 / 560 03 01.07 DEAUVILLE NORMANDIE M01 107/015 7 N4918.7 E00018.8 ...../..... DPE4D LFRG/30 298 479 021 7 624 / 594 06 01.13 NORMANDIE N4921.7 E00009.9 ...../..... Please login to display this image. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srcooke 421 Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 Still cannot reproduce your issue Juan, here using your aircraft file and ZFW: (FPL-SAAB340-IS -SF34/M-SDFRY/S -EDLN1220 -N0273F240 MODRU Z717 MAS UM617 CIV/N0276F230 UM617 ROBAL/N0284F190 M617 CMB/N0284F180 R50 DPE -LFRG0116 LFQQ -PBN/B4 NAV/RNVD2E5A2 DOF/210302 REG/SAAB340 EET/EHAA0013 EBUR0016 LFFF0036 RVR/550 OPR/AIRBILBAO VA PER/C -E/0233) What OFP and fuel policy are you using? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juan Pastor 0 Posted March 2, 2021 Author Share Posted March 2, 2021 Fuel Policy cannot be the issue, I have used a custom one but I got the same result with the default EU-OPS. I have even created a new aircraft using TBM850 template, and I get the same problem too. The strange this is that you can see in the vertical profile the TOD at CIV and in the OFP CIV is correctly marked as *DES, so why this is not reflected in the route? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juan Pastor 0 Posted March 3, 2021 Author Share Posted March 3, 2021 BTW, what is the PFPX version you are using, Stephen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srcooke 421 Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 Tested your aircraft file in v2.03 & 2.04 with both Navigraph & Aerosoft AIRAC data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juan Pastor 0 Posted March 4, 2021 Author Share Posted March 4, 2021 I have made some tests with a friend and everything is OK with v2.03, but the problem is with v2.04. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srcooke 421 Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 Just tried again with v2.04 and have the same result as yourself. I would suggest rolling back to v2.03, my own preference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nakkis 0 Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 Same kind of issue with route from EFHK to LFPG: Real flightplan (from gla edi) flown 03 mar 21: N0443F380 VALOX Y117 ROSAX DCT ADAXA M864 DIPEB DCT GORPI DCT PESEL DCT RADEL/N0445F400 DCT POVEL DCT EDEGA DCT NOSPA DCT DIK UN857 TOLVU/N0444F390 UN857 RAPOR/N0444F380 UZ157 VEDUS And the PFPX one (v2.03 and cycle 2021): N0451F380 VALOX Y117 ROSAX DCT ADAXA M864 DIPEB DCT GORPI DCT PESEL DCT RADEL DCT POVEL/N0450F370 DCT EDEGA/N0449F360 DCT NOSPA/N0447F340 DCT DIK UN857 TOLVU/N0447F330 UN857 RAPOR UZ157 VEDUS According to the real plan, there should not be change from even to odd levels at POVEL, but there should be a change from odd to even at RAPOR. Neither are present in the PFPX plan. It's the same also with different aircraft. Route above was planned with 737-800 with ZFW of 58,7 tonnes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srcooke 421 Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 20 minutes ago, Nakkis said: Same kind of issue with route from EFHK to LFPG: The POVEL FL may be an errant entry in the DIRECT file, flagged to David. Does your OFP indicate DES prior to RAPOR ? hence no entry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nakkis 0 Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 It does indeed show DES at TOLVU and RAPOR Please login to display this image. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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