Trevor Hannant 126 Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 2 hours ago, Mathijs Kok said: Eh bien, ne me laissez pas vous arrêter! Look, I feel a bit guilty about the whole sound thing. I should not have posted that video. My bad. It does not reflect what the aircraft will sound like, just as the first images we shared a looooong time ago do not reflect what the product would like. That is why it was labelled work in progress etc. And honestly, while it 'exploded' on the forum, I did not care a lot. Why counter the arguments from people who made up their minds? If you made a mistake, as I did, it is better to sit still and not dig a deeper hole. Hans Hartmann told me that a long time ago, and he is right. We are testing new sounds right now and will do so until release. So what I did is traditional, showed some nice pictures and deflected the issue. In many ways, the flightsim community has gotten a bitter edge where haters will hate, and people made up their minds before they have even seen a product. So be it. Unfortunately, a lot of people in the flight sim community at large forget what "work in progress" actually means - they assume that things are being shown because that element is complete when it isn't necessarily the case! I wouldn't say what you shared was a mistake - perhaps putting a massive watermark over any video/image that clearly states it's WIP so it can't be edited out for broadcast elsewhere will help... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filipe C 27 Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 6 hours ago, Mathijs Kok said: Amazing photo dump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filipe C 27 Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 5 hours ago, EucalyptusTea said: I hope it will be the A340-300/600 It would make sene since its pretty much the same systems I think 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwa alt 47 Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 3 hours ago, Filipe C said: It would make sene since its pretty much the same systems I think i pray they work on at least the a340-313 for the next airbus, it's the only airbus that makes sense, I'd be shocked if they did an a350 or the wa380 which is already being made 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YAG 194 Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 4 minutes ago, cwa alt said: i pray they work on at least the a340-313 for the next airbus, it's the only airbus that makes sense, I'd be shocked if they did an a350 or the wa380 which is already being made I think it’s mostly a320 because it was the one that started before a330 at the beginning of this post. Surly want to see a343 in msfs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwa alt 47 Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 Just now, YAG said: I think it’s mostly a320 because it was the one that started before a330 at the beginning of this post. Surly want to see a343 in msfs. i thought since they already announced the a320 family then this next airbus would be a new plane, i might be mistaken though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeHotelBravo 56 Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 7 hours ago, Mathijs Kok said: That's not easy right now... See, we have a got a ton of UI / Font issues, and things basically look like crap. Now we are not worried by those and decided to clean all of that up at the end (basically because anything we do can cause more issues). It's all stuff like this: That's a 10-minute fix, but we got loads and loads. And If we post any images, I know they will be around in 2029 to show how crappy the A330 was. I hope it's okay to show you another correction that needs to be done if it is applicable. The green line above the two triangles needs to be long I suppose as in the reference picture? It looks shorter than what is shown. Also the triangles need being a bit compressed and longer in the vertical plane. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iLucasRT 29 Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 I know that Aerosoft is making the A333 and the one in the picture is an A332, but I'll leave the idea in case any creator is interested hehe https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/10879640 (I not copypasting the image here in case there is a copyright conflict) I also know that it will be released sooner rather than later in flightsim. But come on, at least have a look at that beauty livery Greetings from Argentina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svend Loggerhead 136 Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 It’s so hard to decide where my money might go, here for the A330 or to PMDG for the 777. We always have the magic word, though: both. I want to fly KLM and Delta long haul, but they both have complications: KLM -flies the 777 -flies the A330 but not this engine type, and might plan to retire them soon in favor of Boeing Delta -Retired the 777 -Flies the A330 but not this engine type 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahmed2003 108 Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 1 hour ago, Svend Loggerhead said: It’s so hard to decide where my money might go, here for the A330 or to PMDG for the 777. We always have the magic word, though: both. I want to fly KLM and Delta long haul, but they both have complications: KLM -flies the 777 -flies the A330 but not this engine type, and might plan to retire them soon in favor of Boeing Delta -Retired the 777 -Flies the A330 but not this engine type Don't think about it in this way. See which one of them can serve your needs on training and being in a full knowledge of it definitely as much you can, you will never be 100% aware of the aircraft you are simulating but the more the DLC can provide you for training, pick it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deputy Sheriffs The Dude 6537 Posted May 3 Deputy Sheriffs Share Posted May 3 4 hours ago, ahmed2003 said: Don't think about it in this way. See which one of them can serve your needs on training and being in a full knowledge of it definitely as much you can, you will never be 100% aware of the aircraft you are simulating but the more the DLC can provide you for training, pick it up. That sounds a lot like a recommendation for the 777 product as the AS Bus will only do normal SOP stuff. Just buy the AS A333 some weeks after release. It will be available way sooner and we can finally fly some Airbus longhaul flights in MSFS. And let‘s not kid ourselves, we will probably all buy that 777 (with or without EFB ) anyway when it is out. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alvariteus 127 Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 On 4/30/2023 at 10:07 PM, Tom said: Hello folks, For clarification and to add on top of what @Secondator has already said, any development updates or replies to suggestions/criticisms will come from those with the Aerosoft banner on the forum. Usually by either @Mathijs Kok, the project manager, or @Secondator, the technical project manager. Those with the Deputy tag are volunteer forum moderators, and so messages from them on preview topics are generally of their own opinion rather than any official development statements. We're sorry it took so long to give an official reply/update- but during weekends, the majority of Aerosoft staff are not available. I'm sure Mathijs will be back to providing regular updates as usual on Tuesday (Monday is a public holiday, so Aerosoft's offices will be closed). I know this is my first post here but I have been following this thread for months as I am very interested on this project. Regarding this issue, it is good that Aerosoft finally managed to reply with solutions in a constructive way towards the community. However, it is not the first time that the behavior of that person causes problems to Aerosoft's image towards the customers. Maybe you should consider removing his deputy status. Regards. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonmCork 121 Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 8 hours ago, Svend Loggerhead said: It’s so hard to decide where my money might go, here for the A330 or to PMDG for the 777. We always have the magic word, though: both. I want to fly KLM and Delta long haul, but they both have complications: KLM -flies the 777 -flies the A330 but not this engine type, and might plan to retire them soon in favor of Boeing Delta -Retired the 777 -Flies the A330 but not this engine type I cant imagine you will see the 777 any time soon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M4cD 16 Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 @Mathijs Kok Well, I hope the passengers on the Airbus A330 are ready for a bumpy ride because that plane has been known to make even the most fearless of travelers say "Aaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh-330!" Why did the Airbus A330 refuse to go on a diet? Because it was already A-heavy! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonmCork 121 Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 16 minutes ago, M4cD said: @Mathijs Kok Well, I hope the passengers on the Airbus A330 are ready for a bumpy ride because that plane has been known to make even the most fearless of travelers say "Aaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh-330!" Why did the Airbus A330 refuse to go on a diet? Because it was already A-heavy! My worst flying experience was on an A330! Aer Lingus 300 series from Frankfurt to Dublin. I thought we'd fall out of the sky! Had a few dodgy Aeroflot A330 experiences too but that was just unruly passengers flying to Sakhalin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramp_air 401 Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 Il y a 24 minutes, JasonmCork a dit : Ma pire expérience de vol a été sur un A330 ! Série Aer Lingus 300 de Francfort à Dublin. Je pensais que nous tomberions du ciel ! J'ai aussi eu quelques expériences douteuses de l'Aeroflot A330, mais ce n'était que des passagers indisciplinés qui volaient vers Sakhaline. me personally I have always traveled well in an a330 I took the corsair it was great 12 hours of flight as same and I took that of air algerie perfect also there is just the landing which I find hard on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pierre_orchestre 3 Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 Bonjour Est-ce que lorsque l'A330 sortira pour FS20, nous pourrons importer les plans de vol de Simbrief par l'EFB? Bien a vous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deputy Sheriffs mopperle 4142 Posted May 3 Deputy Sheriffs Share Posted May 3 33 minutes ago, pierre_orchestre said: Bonjour Est-ce que lorsque l'A330 sortira pour FS20, nous pourrons importer les plans de vol de Simbrief par l'EFB? Bien a vous The search function in this forum is very usefull. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Himbi 53 Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 To be fair, the modelling looks absolutely gorgeous! Especially the close up shot of the left aileron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Aerosoft Team 51548 Posted May 3 Author Administrator Share Posted May 3 15 hours ago, MikeHotelBravo said: I hope it's okay to show you another correction that needs to be done if it is applicable. The green line above the two triangles needs to be long I suppose as in the reference picture? It looks shorter than what is shown. Also the triangles need being a bit compressed and longer in the vertical plane. Thanks! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Aerosoft Team 51548 Posted May 3 Author Administrator Share Posted May 3 20 hours ago, LifeBeginsAtV1 said: Will the window views in the cabin have the cockpit sounds or custom sounds? Special cabin sound is very very low on our list of priorities. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahmed2003 108 Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 7 hours ago, The Dude said: That sounds a lot like a recommendation for the 777 product as the AS Bus will only do normal SOP stuff. Just buy the AS A333 some weeks after release. It will be available way sooner and we can finally fly some Airbus longhaul flights in MSFS. And let‘s not kid ourselves, we will probably all buy that 777 (with or without EFB ) anyway when it is out. Probably yeah, I will buy both I need to prepare cash lol. However, I didn't specify a particular product as my reference mainly depends on one's need, if the one wants to learn about the a330 so that, no matter if failures are simulated or not cause knowing the normal operations is better than not knowing anything at all. In other words, some people may have a particular aircraft in their priority. And eventually its a market everyone look for his needs and buy according to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahmed2003 108 Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 And the AS a330 is really amazing I'm really looking forward to flying it and being one among my favourite fleet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryeb 0 Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 Hello, I'm new here and hope everyone is doing well. I've been using this simulator for a while and, as someone who flies on the a330 regularly, I am very excited for the release of this aircraft. However, I have a request: Can Aerosoft please explore the possibility of adding a detailed cabin? I have read Mathjis Kok's explanations and I completely understand that it doesn't contribute to the flying aspect and I also understand that going ahead with this comes with a significant cost. But I think it would be a shame for Aerosoft not to experiment with this AT LEAST in one of their airliners, possibly just to see if it is a good business strategy. Again, I understand this isn't Aerosoft's top priority but I hope the Aerosoft team fulfills this ever growing request in the community, and of course it's a good opportunity to show off the dev's interior modelling skills! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alvariteus 127 Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 19 minutes ago, Ryeb said: Hello, I'm new here and hope everyone is doing well. I've been using this simulator for a while and, as someone who flies on the a330 regularly, I am very excited for the release of this aircraft. However, I have a request: Can Aerosoft please explore the possibility of adding a detailed cabin? I have read Mathjis Kok's explanations and I completely understand that it doesn't contribute to the flying aspect and I also understand that going ahead with this comes with a significant cost. But I think it would be a shame for Aerosoft not to experiment with this AT LEAST in one of their airliners, possibly just to see if it is a good business strategy. Again, I understand this isn't Aerosoft's top priority but I hope the Aerosoft team fulfills this ever growing request in the community, and of course it's a good opportunity to show off the dev's interior modelling skills! I fly the Fenix A320 very regularly and I personally almost never put cabin views. It was amazing at first, and my impression was just WOW... I couldn't believe what I was seeing. But at the end of the day when you fly the plane regularly you usually focus on other things that are happening in the cockpit. I personally believe that wing views with the window frame like in the PMDG are enough, but I would also like to have different interior sounds for those views as PMDG does as well on their 737. I really prefer Aerosoft to focus on more important things about the simulation and, why not, the complete A330ceo family - first with the other engine options for the -300 and then with the -200 -, rather than spend time on that kind of things. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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