RogePete 28 Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 I deleted it. But that doesn't matter, cause everything in there, I quoted already. Its only content was like: Could not open file Could not open file Could not open file Could not open file Could not open file Could not open file Could not open file Could not open file Could not open file Could not open file Could not open file ... No file specified or any other information. I wished there was more information.... sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birger Tiemann 1 Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 I have the same problems with the Simwings scenery EDDM bought at Aerosoft - only CTD's. I hope that someone can fix that problem very soon, because we have paid for it. IT IS NOT FREEWARE. Best regards Birger Tiemann Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerosoft Aerosoft Team [Inactive Account] 51558 Posted December 27, 2020 Aerosoft Share Posted December 27, 2020 3 hours ago, Anja Tiemann said: I have the same problems with the Simwings scenery EDDM bought at Aerosoft - only CTD's. I hope that someone can fix that problem very soon, because we have paid for it. IT IS NOT FREEWARE. Best regards Birger Tiemann We for sure realize that. But on NONE of our internal test systems and as far as on none of the systems of the developers are we able to see this problem. So anything done at this moment is poking in the dark. It clearly is an issue that is related to something on the systems of the users who see the issue. We need to find out what all the affected systems have in common. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deputy Sheriffs mopperle 4162 Posted December 27, 2020 Deputy Sheriffs Share Posted December 27, 2020 Currently we see here 6 users having CTDs with EDDM. As Mathijs said, nobody else is experiencing this. To find ou what these 6 setups have in common, please report this: 1. Operating system and exact build 2. Graphiccard and driver version 3. MFS and its exact version 4. Location where MFS is installed 5. Addons you have installed and where they are installed. 6. When exactly the crash happens 7. Errors reported in the Windows Eventviewer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerofly81 0 Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 1. My Specs: --------- OS: Windows 10 Pro, Version 20H2, Build 19042.685 CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 2700X (3,7 GHz) GPU: ASUS Nvidia Geforce 2080 RTX,8GB Mainboard: ASUS ROG Crosshair VII Hero RAM: 32 GB (4x8) Corsair Vengeance LPX 3200 MHZ C16 CMP 2.0 SSDs: Crucial MX250MX /250GB, Crucial 500GB, 2TB NVM SSD Powersupply: Corsair TX750M, 80Plus Gold Input Devices for SIM: Thrustmaster TFRP Rudder Pedals, Honeycomb Yoke, Thrustmaster T.Flight Hotas One Display: 1080p Monitor - No OC - 2. Graphics Card and Driver Version: AUSU Nvidia Geforce 2080 RTX 8GB, Driverversion: 460.89 (Release Date 12/15/2020,Newest) 3. MSFS 2020 Premium Deluxe from Microsoft Store, Version: 1.2.13.0, btw. the CTD was in the version before too) 4. Location MSFS: App Installed on C (Standard Installationpath)/SSD Drive, Scenery Path is on a different drive: F:/Packages FS2020 /Community and /Official/Onestore Folder /SSD Drive 5. Location Aiports/Scenery: F:/Packages FS2020/Community: ------------------------ Bought at Aerosoft Store: ------------------------- - Aerosoft Airport Köln (EDDK) - Simwings Airport München (EDDM) - CTD - Bought at ORBX Store (installed via Orbxdirect): ------------------------------------------------- - Orbx London City Airport (EGLC) - Orbx Leeds Bradford Airport (EGNM) - Orbx Innsbruck Airport (LOWI) - Orbx Landmarks London City Pack - Orbx Hollywood Burbanks Airport (KBUR) - Orbx Santa Barbara Municipal Airport (LGKO) - Gaya Simulatons Vienna International Airport (LOWW) - Gaya Simulations Zell am See Airport (LOWZ) - Gaya Simulations Florence Airport (LIRQ) - Orbx Gothenburg Landvetter Airport (ESGG) - Orbx Graz Airport (LOWG) - Orbx San Jose International Airport (KSJC) - Digital Design Salzburg Airport (LOWS) - Orbx Malmo Airport (ESMS) - Orbx Olbia Costa Smeralda Airport (LIEO) - Pilot Plus London Southend Airport (EGMC) - Orbx Newcastel Airport (EGNT) - MK-Studios Dublin Airport EIDW) - Orbx NiS Constantine the Great Airport (LYNI) - IndiaFoxecho Visual Simulations MB-339 Military Jet Bought at Simmarket: -------------------- - Aerosoft Paderborn Lippstadt (EDLL) - Drzewicki Moscow Landmarks - Lamezia Terme Airport (LICA) - Latin VFR Miami International Airport (KMIA) - Sierrasim Simulation Antonio Narino Airport (SKPS) - Aerosoft St. Tropez Airport (LFTZ) - UK2000 Bristol Airport (EGGD) - Drzewicki Design Washington Landmarks - PYREEGUE DEV Co. Tivat Montenegro (LYTV) - INFORMATICA AZ-EDDH Hamburg Fuhlsbüttel (EDDH) - FS Dreamteam Vancouver V2 (CYVR) - Samscene Tokyo Landmarks Enhanced - Devinci Blaise Diagne International Diass Airport (GOBD) - Justsim Euroairport Basel Mulhouse Basel (LFSB) - LatinVFR Barcelona Airport (LEBL) - Airworthy Designs - Saint Martin & Grand Case Airport (TNCM,TFFG) - Redwing Sim - Kai Tak Airport (VHHX) - Flytampa Las Vegas Airport (KLAS) - Informatica AZ - Eurofighter Typhoon - Perfect Flight - FS Approaches - Pilot in command (Missions) - FS Academy - IFR (Missions Freeware: --------- - Flybywire 320NX Mod - Clink's Megapack V10 600 Liveries) Second Airport/Scenery Location: F:/Packages FS2020/Official/Onestore: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Bought at Microsoftstore: ------------------------- - Flightbeam Denver International Airport (KDEN) - CTD in Correlation with simwings EDDM/when loading EDDM - - Prealsoft Casablanca Mohammed V Airport (GMMN) - CTD in Correlation with simwings EDDM/when loading EDDM - - Flytampa Copenhagen Airport Kastrup (EKCH) - FSDreamteam O'Hare International Airport Chicago (KORD) - Trondheim Airport Vaernes (ENVA) - Gaffer Simulations Fale King Shaka International Airport (FALE) - Orbx Alesund Vigra Airport (ENAL) - LVFR San Diego International Airport (KSAN) - SEGU Jose Joaquin de Olmedo Airport (SEGU) - Flightbeam Portland International Airport (KDPX) - Justsim Rhodes International Airport (LGRP) - Verticalsim Norfolk International Airport (KORF) - Centralsim Jorge Newberry Airfield (SABE) - LVFR Bradley International Airport (KBDL) - ImagineSim Atlanta Airport (KATL) - Justsim Düsseldorf International Airport (EDDL) - FSDreamteam Zürich Airport (LSZH) - Simwings IBIZA Airport (LEIB) - Justsim Antalya Airport (LTAI) - Vidan Design Billung Airport (EKBI) - Simarc Islamabad International Airport (OPIS) - Sierrasim Camilo Data international Airport (SKCC) - Sierrasim August C. Sandino International (MNMG) - Drzewiecki Design Seattle Landmarks - Samscene3D Hong Kong City Times 6. When exactly the crash happens: CTD without a Message at Loading Screen after Choosing Airport EDDM on Worldmap. (Loading Bar at about 80%) 7. Eventviewer: See Attachment (2 Pictures) Please login to display this image. Please login to display this image. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developer OPabst 2091 Posted December 27, 2020 Developer Share Posted December 27, 2020 Thanks for the list, two questions, which maybe help too: You report, the CTD is not happen, when KDEN and GMMN are both remove temporary. 1.) Did the CTD happens, when only KDEN or GMMN is active? In both cases? 2.) Did you have CTDs in KDEN or GMMN, when EDDM is active? Did you know, where the content.xml is stored (if not I will post the folder tomorrow): Can you edit the xml with the notepad and move the line with the EDDM entry before the KDEN and GMMN entry, as I expect it is one of the later entries and lower the the other in the list. Idea behind that is, that maybe the loading order has an effect here. PS: Did you read the post of Thorsten (the Developer) in the other thread: Could be helpful to make this tests by temporary remove parts of the subdirs, special the simobjects folder and report him the result. The data in a scenery addon are no executable codes, which itself can generate CTDs. They simple static data to define, where objects are placed and how they are constructed and covered by materials/textures. When there is a bug, you see misplaced or deformed objects, but on every PC. Only the simobjects are „animated“. This animation is generated on runtime based on the assignments and parameters, the scenery has define. So here, it could be, that in different conditions, the Flightsim gets in trouble and crash's only in this cases. As Simobjects use Asobo Templates, maybe there is a issue in combination of addons possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerofly81 0 Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 Hi, I already tried content.xml: I put EDDM on the top, the other two Airports (KDEN and GMMN) on the bottom and vice versa, but still the same Issue. And now to your questions: 1. It crashes at EDDM if one of them or both are active. It doesn't matter whose 2. I have no crashes in KDEN and GMMN itself, only at loading for EDDM. (If case Nr 1. see above) And to your last question, yes I arleady tried that, what said Thorsten in the forum : Removing subdirs like CGL, Simobjects and the scenery folder. What happended by removing of the simobjects folder is, that the airports is loading without errors(CTD), but that is not the simwings airports anymore, rather the standard from microsoft. Sidenote: I also have deactivated AI Traffic. This is, what I have already done long time before btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerofly81 0 Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 by removing the other folders (CGL, Simobjects) it crashes again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developer OPabst 2091 Posted December 27, 2020 Developer Share Posted December 27, 2020 Ok, thanks for your help and the statement about the simobjects is helpful (and I expected that). When then simobject folder is removed, it is a „normal“ result, that you see no jetways, rotating radar or wigwags. But, that in this case no CTD happens, shows me, that the animations are the source of the issue and it opens options for tests, to find out, what infos missing in the SDK to provide this parts correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developer OPabst 2091 Posted December 27, 2020 Developer Share Posted December 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, Aerofly81 said: by removing the other folders (CGL, Simobjects) it crashes again Ok, sad to here. But, so the crash is not happens in any time, otherwise what you see before should not be possible too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerofly81 0 Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 Sorry, I corrected me: By removing from the scenery folder the Airport is loading but it isn't from simwings anymore rather the standard from microsoft after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developer OPabst 2091 Posted December 27, 2020 Developer Share Posted December 27, 2020 Ok, now I am confused: You removed the simobjects folder and the CTD is gone, because the complete addon (Airport package) is not anymore loaded and you only see the default scenery based EDDM airport? In this case, it makes sense that the CTD not happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerofly81 0 Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 Sorry, No, I corrected me(see above): by removing from the "scenery folder" the sim is loading the default EDDM, not from the simobjects folder or CGL (from there it crashes again, if removing) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developer OPabst 2091 Posted December 27, 2020 Developer Share Posted December 27, 2020 Ok, when the complete Eddm packet is remove, you have no CTD in EDDM, as it is only the default, the remove of any subfolder did not change the existence if the issue, you still have a CTD in EDDM. Correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerofly81 0 Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 Yes you're right: If I remove it completely -no problems If I remove KDEN and GMMN - no problems If I remove the subdirecty scenery simwings EDDM - no problems, default scenery If I remove CGL/Simobjects subdirectory simwings EDDM - CTD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birger Tiemann 1 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Hello Everybody, because I use the Addon-Linker there are only links to the aircrafts, airports and liveries in my Community folder. I have made a screenshot which is attached. Best regards Birger Tiemann Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deputy Sheriffs mopperle 4162 Posted December 28, 2020 Deputy Sheriffs Share Posted December 28, 2020 Please do not attch Word documents. You can attach screenshots (jpg or png) directly to your post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birger Tiemann 1 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Thanks for the info. Next time I will do it in that way. What I really not understand: although I did nothing at all, I could open EDDM and after that I started around Ingolstadt and had a perfect flight ILS RWY 26L. Well then, thank you everyone and best regards Birger Tiemann Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piper9t3 2 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 I just purchased and first flight into EDDM got CTD. I am running latest version of MSFS and latest Nvidia driver. MSFS installed in default location. I have my addons sim linked in the Community folder including KDEN plus many others. Event viewer shows: Faulting module path: C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\ntdll.dll CTD occurred inbound to MIQ during the arrival phase of the flight. I will try again by deactivating all Community scenery addons except EDDM and see what happens. I trust this will get fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RKKA 11 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 I got CTDs very single time since the ladt FS update. I tried thousand things including re-Installation. But today I rolled back Nvidia‘s driver. Now it seems to work fine. Seems like the update + the latest driver do not work well together Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piper9t3 2 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 I deactivated all scenery addons in my Community folder except sim-wings EDDM and restarted MSFS. Selected EDDM as my departure location and during the loading screen it CTD. I am running the latest Nvidia driver version 460.89. 33 minutes ago, RKKA said: But today I rolled back Nvidia‘s driver. What driver version did you roll back too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developer OPabst 2091 Posted December 28, 2020 Developer Share Posted December 28, 2020 The developer has made some test to reproduce the issue, by installing the Addons KDEN and GMMN, but even with both active, no issues or CTD in EDDM. So it is still not clear, what can generate this issue. But, we have discussed some potential sources and will try to change some structures of the Data internally and hope that this maybe help to solve it. We hope to be able to provide a test Version before the end of the year, maybe tomorrow. As we could still not reproduce the error, we need to get the feedback from those who have the issue. So standby please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RKKA 11 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 vor 24 Minuten, Piper9t3 sagte: I deactivated all scenery addons in my Community folder except sim-wings EDDM and restarted MSFS. Selected EDDM as my departure location and during the loading screen it CTD. I am running the latest Nvidia driver version 460.89. What driver version did you roll back too? 457.51, the one released on 02.12.2020. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piper9t3 2 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 I rolled back to 457.30 and still get the CTD after clicking the Fly Now button even with all scenery addons deactivated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developer OPabst 2091 Posted December 28, 2020 Developer Share Posted December 28, 2020 47 minutes ago, Piper9t3 said: I rolled back to 457.30 and still get the CTD after clicking the Fly Now button even with all scenery addons deactivated. The Nvidia Drivers seams not to part of the issue. It is also maybe not only one source, which generate issues with CTDs (EDDM is not the only addon, where CTD issues are reported). That a combi of addons seams to be involved could be only a side effect. We follow at the moment some hints, where maybe modules of the Windows environment, which are used by the Flightsimulator, are the source, maybe because they are outdated on some systems. Maybe they create overflows in special data conditions. We hope, that this speculation is correct and we can change EDDM in a way, that it not fix the problem in general, but EDDM will be not anymore part of this. Please keep in mind, that the Simulator Platform is still under construction, every update fixes issues, but maybe also open new once. The Docu (SDK) is very spare in infos for the (airport) developers, so all must work based on the way „try and error“. When the sim shows what you expect based on the tools and docu you have, all is fine. Issues you don‘t see, are no issues you know, until someone have it and report it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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