Peter9725 2 Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 After installing the boxed version, is it required to keep one of the discs in the DVD drive for authentication reasons? With the risk of getting it damaged/cracked over time (just like XP11). I am more than willing to buy the boxed version, but it would be nice to keep it in (nearly) pristine condition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ysh 4 Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 6 hours ago, Hans Hartmann said: The simulator is always multi-language. There are no language-specific versions. Thank you for the answer, but I was obviously referring to the Artbook and the box of the game. I know that the games can be installed in most language since you download 90 % of it anyway. And you haven't answered this question : May we know when the physical version will be available for Pre-order on Amazon ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerosoft Aerosoft Team [Inactive Account] 51558 Posted July 18, 2020 Author Aerosoft Share Posted July 18, 2020 Gents, there are some questions here we are unable, unwilling or not allowed to answer at this moment. All of the information will be filled in before release. Do not hesitate to ask, but don't be upset when there is no reply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goofey007 24 Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 On 7/17/2020 at 7:46 AM, teaarmy said: Same for me, i'd love to have the box to put it next to FSX and FS2004! My internet is faster than installing from DVD so Iam hoping for the pure download option with the MSFS key inside the box.... and when its not possible, I should try if my DVD drive works after years of not using it ^^ Same here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ysh 4 Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 22 minutes ago, Mathijs Kok said: Gents, there are some questions here we are unable, unwilling or not allowed to answer at this moment. All of the information will be filled in before release. Do not hesitate to ask, but don't be upset when there is no reply. I presume you are referring to my questions. And I respect and understand that. Thank you However, I think you can tell me in which language the artbook and the case of the box will be ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerosoft Aerosoft Team [Inactive Account] 51558 Posted July 18, 2020 Author Aerosoft Share Posted July 18, 2020 If I am correct the first shipment is English/German but I will confirm this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ysh 4 Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 29 minutes ago, Mathijs Kok said: If I am correct the first shipment is English/German but I will confirm this. Ok, thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sooner 12 Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 On 16.7.2020 at 12:29, Mathijs Kok sagte: As far as I know at this moment you get the same key as used for the pure download version. Hello Mathijs, dont wanna be annoying, but any news on that one? Would like to pre-order sooner than later Best Regards Marcus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deputy Sheriffs mopperle 4161 Posted July 19, 2020 Deputy Sheriffs Share Posted July 19, 2020 11 hours ago, sooner said: Hello Mathijs, dont wanna be annoying, but any news on that one? Would like to pre-order sooner than later Best Regards Marcus On 7/18/2020 at 9:05 AM, Mathijs Kok said: Gents, there are some questions here we are unable, unwilling or not allowed to answer at this moment. All of the information will be filled in before release. Do not hesitate to ask, but don't be upset when there is no reply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomcat1940 2 Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 Hi Mathijs, 1. Can the new Sim co-exist with the old FSX on the same system ? 2. Does the new sim support the FSX file formates .mdl and .bgl ? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerosoft Aerosoft Team [Inactive Account] 51558 Posted July 19, 2020 Author Aerosoft Share Posted July 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Tomcat1940 said: Hi Mathijs, 1. Can the new Sim co-exist with the old FSX on the same system ? 2. Does the new sim support the FSX file formates .mdl and .bgl ? Thanks 1. Absolutely 2. That is partly an open question, but I would not expect anything complex to be able to load in the new sim without some work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerosoft Featured Comment Aerosoft Team [Inactive Account] 51558 Posted July 19, 2020 Author Aerosoft Featured Comment Share Posted July 19, 2020 Friends, there have been a lot of questions about how the DVD versions exactly work during installation and how the boxed sim differs from the download version. Here is the low-down. Do not worry about it. Insert the first DVD, click okay and follow instructions on the screen. Get a drink as it will take a while. The DVDs contain only the installer and the content (aircraft, world etc). The actual simulator software is downloaded during installation. That way you always have the latest version. For this the installer will guide you through the creation of an Xbox account (if you do not have one) etc. That means you need an active internet connection during installation. You also need a connection to run the simulator (it updates itself at every start when needed). But to be frank, it makes very little sense to run this offline. After you ran the DVD installation, you will be asked to re-insert DVD 1. This will be checked during the activation. At the first start the sim will check all files and update everything that is needed. As time progresses this will be a larger download. From the users perspective you will end up with exactly the same version as somebody who bought it at the Microsoft Store. Keep in mind that the sim consists of four parts: The simulator itself, obviously mandatory. The default content (basic world, aircraft etc). This default world is on it's own far better then FSX could ever deliver. This is a mandatory part, always part of the simulator.. The downloaded content (more details for the world, better ground imagery, far more correctly placed trees etc etc). This comes in 'blocks' that can be buffered on your system so if you always fly from Detroit it will not have to be loaded every time). Contrary to what some less informed sources say there is absolutely NOTHING indicating this is paid content or will be paid content. We do not sell a time limited simulator. This is an optional part, you do not have to stream any scenery, weather or traffic. Third party content that can buy from the build in store or from external shops. Obviously optional, it is a super sim without add-ons. If you run into any issue make a ticket at: https://helpdesk.aerosoft.com/portal/en/home (or send an email to support@aerosoft.com, we prefer the ticket as the system will try to understand your question and offer automated advice. Tickets are normally solved 12 hours faster than emails because they are easier to handle!). We have MFS trained support standing by. Our new forums will be available as well. You can send us tickets is nearly any language, but we might default to English in our replies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlinecker 3 Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 Vor 1 Stunde, Mathijs Kok sagte: You also need a connection to run the simulator (it updates itself at every start when needed). So if the user is offline for any reason MSFS won't start? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developer Hans Hartmann 3694 Posted July 19, 2020 Developer Share Posted July 19, 2020 Vor 1 Stunde, mlinecker sagte: So if the user is offline for any reason MSFS won't start? What would be the point of running a simulator offline that relies heavily on streaming scenery data? There is an option in the Microsoft Store app which allows to use a PC (1 PC) to run store content while not being online, but I can't tell or promise you that this setting will work with MSFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter9725 2 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 Thanks for the elaborate response, Mathijs. But concerning point 2: "After you ran the DVD installation, you will be asked to re-insert DVD 1. This will be checked during the activation." Oke, that is logical and to be expected. But after the installation is completed and finished: will this DVD activation-check happen every time when I start up the sim? Hence, making it mandatory to insert DVD 1 every time when I want to fly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerosoft Aerosoft Team [Inactive Account] 51558 Posted July 20, 2020 Author Aerosoft Share Posted July 20, 2020 Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter9725 2 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 So, installing the boxed version has the same potential risk as with the boxed XP11 where one ends up with a damaged/cracked DVD over time. Thank you for your clarity on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerosoft Aerosoft Team [Inactive Account] 51558 Posted July 20, 2020 Author Aerosoft Share Posted July 20, 2020 7 minutes ago, Peter9725 said: So, installing the boxed version has the same potential risk as with the boxed XP11 where one ends up with a damaged/cracked DVD over time. Thank you for your clarity on this. And we have always replaced those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teaarmy 16 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 Vor 1 Stunde, Mathijs Kok sagte: Yes. Is there any chance, that we are able to just enter the key at microsoft store and bypass the wohle dvd stuff in the future or is it set like this? I just want the box for my collection, without anything else DVD related A lot of steam games do it perfectly, i buy the box, get the code and then decide if I download or install from DVD... and they don't need the disc because of the steam activation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter9725 2 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 I don't doubt the willingness or quality of Aerosofts customer service. That is not my point. I just had hoped for a more elegant authentication solution. You yourself stated that the DVDs only contain the installer and content (world & aircraft), but not the actual sim software (= the core of it all). And you do not get the actual sim software before you start the installation. So, to me, it seems there is not much difference between the download version you buy at the MS Store and the download version you get when installing the boxed version. And since the first does not require a DVD authentication, why the latter should? You 'only' have to marry the boxed content with the downloaded actual sim software. And on that point I had hoped for a more elegant solution. But if the boxed version key grants me acces to the download version at the MS Store, than that's an option too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy King 3 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 Hello, I am brand new here and have pre-ordered the MFS. I am also a beginner for flight simulations. Here is my concern: According to your forum (English), I was able to learn that the Logitech Yoke System plus Rudder Pedals work with the MFS and are even recommended. I also bought it because I think it is currently only a few devices are available. What about the Logitech radio / multi / and switch panel, are they also supported? (I forgot the flight instrument panels, 3.5 inch display) They are already in stock with me! Since I want to order a small cockpit panel. If they are not supported, I can still return the panels and save my money. I look forward to your answers ... Andy King (Sorry :google translator) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmb 139 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 8 minutes ago, Andy King said: Hello, I am brand new here and have pre-ordered the MFS. I am also a beginner for flight simulations. Here is my concern: According to your forum (English), I was able to learn that the Logitech Yoke System plus Rudder Pedals work with the MFS and are even recommended. I also bought it because I think it is currently only a few devices are available. What about the Logitech radio / multi / and switch panel, are they also supported? (I forgot the flight instrument panels, 3.5 inch display) They are already in stock with me! Since I want to order a small cockpit panel. If they are not supported, I can still return the panels and save my money. I look forward to your answers ... Andy King (Sorry :google translator) You have two options. There is a freeware tool by Lorby and a payware tool SPAD.neXt providing extended possibilities. Here are the corresponding links: AxisandOhs for MSFS by Lorby https://www.lorby-si.com/downloads.html SPAD.neXt for MSFS: https://www.spadnext.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=52904&sid=28495817d7ea2a7978ff05c67fa5a9bb Kind regards, Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinblue 9 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 I'm cancelling my pre-order. Insisting on a DVD be kept in the drive to authenticate every time we want to play is ridiculous. It's 2020 not 1995. I don't mind digging out my USB DVD Drive to install the game but I'm not keeping it plugged in forever. I really don't see why it couldn't have been just a simple boxed version provided with a digital KEY. Which is what I expected it to be. If I buy the digital download I also can make use of Play Anywhere and be able to play either on XBOX or PC with the same license. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feist 7 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 51 minutes ago, Peter9725 said: I don't doubt the willingness or quality of Aerosofts customer service. That is not my point. I just had hoped for a more elegant authentication solution. You yourself stated that the DVDs only contain the installer and content (world & aircraft), but not the actual sim software (= the core of it all). And you do not get the actual sim software before you start the installation. So, to me, it seems there is not much difference between the download version you buy at the MS Store and the download version you get when installing the boxed version. And since the first does not require a DVD authentication, why the latter should? You 'only' have to marry the boxed content with the downloaded actual sim software. And on that point I had hoped for a more elegant solution. But if the boxed version key grants me acces to the download version at the MS Store, than that's an option too. I already ordered the boxed version but reading that the DVD must be inserted every time I want to fly makes me doubt whether the boxed version is the right choice for me. Is inserting the DVD really mandatory and not open for discussion ? I think I read earlier in this topic that a registration key will be provided with the DVD so it doesn't seem to make much sense as a means of copy protection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sooner 12 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 vor 3 Stunden , Peter9725 sagte: Thanks for the elaborate response, Mathijs. But concerning point 2: "After you ran the DVD installation, you will be asked to re-insert DVD 1. This will be checked during the activation." Oke, that is logical and to be expected. But after the installation is completed and finished: will this DVD activation-check happen every time when I start up the sim? Hence, making it mandatory to insert DVD 1 every time when I want to fly? vor 3 Stunden , Mathijs Kok sagte: Yes. If that is the case, I am cancelling my pre-order of the Premium Deluxe also. Cmon guys... It is 2020 > DVD check at Install, okay but every time? What is the Key for then? Regards Marcus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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