pierre fsx 3 Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 Hi, Is it normal that my two throttles in the sim (P3D) start at the idle position? And not at the shout off position when i load the airplane in cold &dark state. I use a PFC cirrus II and a 2 jet quadrant. I did follow the FSUICP guide to configure my throttles. pierre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pierre fsx 3 Posted December 13, 2019 Author Share Posted December 13, 2019 Hi, I am using PFC hardware, so I have to use FSUIPC to calibrate my quadrant throttle. I have follow the FSUIPC guide that you have posted on this forum. I find it hard to follow, I do not understand why you are configuring 4 Throttles instead of two. Also the pictures of the Calibration screen are confusing, it is hard to follow which axis you are configuring. I am assuming that in the EFB I have to use the "without reverser option". When I load the airplane in cold & dark, at the end both Throttles jumps from shut off to idle position and then I cannot bring the arm in the sim back to shut off (even if I try with the mouse). If I do not load FSUIPC then the throttles stay in the shut off position. so it seem that the plane is not reading the FSUIPC correctly. If I load the 32 bit version instead then everything works fine. Any help would be appreciated Pierre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developer metzgergva 210 Posted December 13, 2019 Developer Share Posted December 13, 2019 I'm using PFC trottle quadrant too. Just make sure you use direct mode and no calibration. In the FSUIPC.ini it should read like this: 5=2R,256,D,10,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Throttle2 }- 6=2V,256,D,9,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Throttle1 }- The "5=2R" and "6=2V" will be different as these are the hardware/axis identifiers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pierre fsx 3 Posted December 14, 2019 Author Share Posted December 14, 2019 Hi metzgergva, Thank you for this reply, I do have some questions to ask you: 1. When I load the aircraft in the Cold & Dark or Turnaround or Ready for Startup (all state that do not have the motor running) the aircraft load with his throttles in idle mode instead of Shut off, do you also see this behavior. 2. Are you using the PCF 2 jet Quadrant? and is it enable and assigned in PFCcom64. I also have a T .16000m Joystick , that I use for the Airbus series, I have the aileron, elevator and steering axis define, but not the Throttle. Yesterday I did some test by disabling FSUIPC (not load with the sim) and I configured the Throttles axis of my T .16000m Joystick. With that configuration, If I load the aircraft in the Cold & Dark or Turnaround or Ready for Startup (all state that do not have the motor running) the aircraft load with his throttles in shut off mode. But neither my slider on the T .16000m Joystick or the mouse can move the throttles in the sim. Is this normal? and also , my Joystick slider only works if I load the Ready for taxi state which as the motor running. and when it load the throttles are in the idle position. I also cannot move the throttles back to Shut Off position with my mouse, I can move them forward but not backwards. I guest this is normal. So I guess that in the Aircraft Checklist or Procedure from Cold & Dark to ready to taxi, there is something (a switch or combination ) that move the throttles from Shut Off to Idle? This is not done by moving the Throttles arm up or down. Thanks Pierre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developer metzgergva 210 Posted December 15, 2019 Developer Share Posted December 15, 2019 Salut Pierre, In my case the throttles are in Shut Off position. I can change the aircraft state in EFB and the positions are correct for each state. I have the the same PFC 2 Jet quadrant. I have made a separate profile in FSUIPC for The CRJ so that other functions are also assigned properly like the GA button to obtain TO TO prior taking off. If you have an overlap of multiple controllers on the same axis, i. e. Throttle, they will influence eachother. Be aware that in the EFB you need to set under option and page 2 the correct selection of Throttle Axis Value Range, depending what setup you have chosen in FSUIPC. Whenever you want to switch from Idle to Shot off and back to Idle you need to press the red lever and then move the throttle with a click. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B777ER 8 Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 On 12/13/2019 at 4:56 PM, metzgergva said: I'm using PFC trottle quadrant too. Just make sure you use direct mode and no calibration. In the FSUIPC.ini it should read like this: 5=2R,256,D,10,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Throttle2 }- 6=2V,256,D,9,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Throttle1 }- The "5=2R" and "6=2V" will be different as these are the hardware/axis identifiers. Do run the Aerosoft Airbus in this configuration? Direct and no calibration? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pierre fsx 3 Posted December 16, 2019 Author Share Posted December 16, 2019 Hi metzgergva, Thank you for the reply, I do not understand why I cannot get mine to work, I also use Profile to setup my different aircraft, and I do have the Airbus series configure direct mode and no calibration and they work fine. Could you show me what you have in our profile? maybe I am missing something. Pierre [Profile] Created=16/12/2019 10:33:56 [Axes] RangeRepeatRate=10 0=0X,256,D,1,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Aileron }- 1=0Y,256,D,2,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Elevator }- 2=0R,256,D,36,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: SteeringTiller }- 3=17X,512,D,22,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Spoilers }- 4=17V,512,D,25,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Reverser }- 5=17Z,512,D,9,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Throttle1 }- 6=17R,512,D,10,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Throttle2 }- [JoystickCalibration] AllowSuppressForPFCquad=Yes ExcludeThrottleSet=Yes ExcludeMixtureSet=Yes ExcludePropPitchSet=Yes SepRevsJetsOnly=No ApplyHeloTrim=No UseAxisControlsForNRZ=No FlapsSetControl=0 FlapDetents=No ReverserControl=66292 Reverser1Control=66422 Reverser2Control=66425 Reverser3Control=66428 Reverser4Control=66431 MaxThrottleForReverser=256 AileronTrimControl=66731 RudderTrimControl=66732 CowlFlaps1Control=66162 CowlFlaps2Control=66163 CowlFlaps3Control=66164 CowlFlaps4Control=66165 SteeringTillerControl=0 MaxSteerSpeed=60 RudderBlendLowest=1 Aileron=-16312,0,0,16325 Elevator=-16384,0,0,16253 Spoilers=-16380,16380/16 [Buttons] 0=R20,11,K46,8 -{Key press: Del}- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pierre fsx 3 Posted December 16, 2019 Author Share Posted December 16, 2019 Also when you said: Be aware that in the EFB you need to set under option and page 2 the correct selection of Throttle Axis Value Range, depending what setup you have chosen in FSUIPC. what do you mean? In FSUIPC a just assign the axis for the Throttles, Is there a way to choice between with reverser range and without reverser range? Pierre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developer metzgergva 210 Posted December 17, 2019 Developer Share Posted December 17, 2019 FSUIPC offeres different ways: Direct - with calibration - with calibration and with reverser range. I'm using direct for the CRJ and have the reverser on a seperate lever. From your profile I see you are using DIRECT, so it should work. if you use in the EFB the equivalent setting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pierre fsx 3 Posted December 18, 2019 Author Share Posted December 18, 2019 hi, Hi Me again, I just conduct another test, I did a fresh installed of FSUIPC and PFCcom64 so I only had the CRJ plane configured. with both: 5=17Z,512,D,9,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Throttle1 }- 6=17R,512,D,10,0,0,0 -{ DIRECT: Throttle2 }- or 0=17Z,512,F,66420,0,0,0 -{ TO SIM: AXIS_THROTTLE1_SET }- 1=17R,512,F,66423,0,0,0 -{ TO SIM: AXIS_THROTTLE2_SET }- The Throttles works but they do not come back to the Idle position, Please login to display this image. But now If I load the aircraft in the Cold & Dark or Turnaround or Ready for Startup (all state that do not have the motor running) the aircraft load with his throttles in shut off mode, like it's suppose to do.. I am using the "FSUIPC with reverser Range" in the EFB , that's how the Throttles are defined in FSUIPC, no calibration. So if I could get the THRs arm to go down to the Idle position and find out why the quadrant works when I only have the CRJ define in FSUIPC5.ini and not when I have other plane configured. Pierre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developer metzgergva 210 Posted December 19, 2019 Developer Share Posted December 19, 2019 I do not use the option with reversers, so I cannot comment on that. I think an issue my come from that the PFC throttles are not using the whole range of what FS expects. On the other hand you cannot resolve this as the CRJ does not allow dalibration. My solution is that I use a separate axis for the reverser wich just sends a couple of F2 commands when pulled backward simulating a reverser lever movement. I have experienced in the past the same issues that sometimes the FSUIPC gets erratic and only deleting the ini helps. But I have copied in the other profiles from a backup and just assured that the axis names and devices are still the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pierre fsx 3 Posted December 20, 2019 Author Share Posted December 20, 2019 Hi metzgergva, I was finally able to solve my problem, I deleted the INI and it seems to help. I then replicated the setting I was using with the Airbus to solve my range issue. So now I am glad that everything is working find for the throttles. Thank you for your support Pierre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developer metzgergva 210 Posted December 21, 2019 Developer Share Posted December 21, 2019 Happy to hear that! Enjoy the CRJ Pro! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developer Hans Hartmann 3694 Posted December 21, 2019 Developer Share Posted December 21, 2019 Because we believe this topic has been answered we have closed it. If you have any more questions feel free to open a new topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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