alfatango 1 Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 Three days ago I used the Airbus Professional 319 (v. 1.2.5.0) and everything was OK. After the flight, the computer was shut down and not used till today. Today, I started the PC again, fired P3D (V4.5HF2) and the 'bus would not load, with CTD after selecting the plane (black screen for a few seconds and then CTD). Same happens with all Airbus Professional models (318/9/20/21) I have tried to uninstall the Airbus, re-install it, update with the 1.2.5.2 experimental updates, to no avail: P3D crashes to desktop upon selection of any Airbus professional. All other aircraft add-ons (including Aerosoft's CRJ 700/900) work OK. Is anyone else experimenting the same behaviour? Maybe a hidden Windows update in between? Thanks for any help Alfatango Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveCT2003 2553 Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 3 hours ago, alfatango said: Three days ago I used the Airbus Professional 319 (v. 1.2.5.0) and everything was OK. After the flight, the computer was shut down and not used till today. Today, I started the PC again, fired P3D (V4.5HF2) and the 'bus would not load, with CTD after selecting the plane (black screen for a few seconds and then CTD). Same happens with all Airbus Professional models (318/9/20/21) I have tried to uninstall the Airbus, re-install it, update with the 1.2.5.2 experimental updates, to no avail: P3D crashes to desktop upon selection of any Airbus professional. All other aircraft add-ons (including Aerosoft's CRJ 700/900) work OK. Is anyone else experimenting the same behaviour? Maybe a hidden Windows update in between? Thanks for any help Alfatango I am unable to directly load any of the Airbus Professionals without a CTD. I have to load into a default aircraft, and then load the Airbus, and that works for me. Please take a look in your Windows Event Viewer and let us know which module is called out by the error? Many thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfatango 1 Posted November 9, 2019 Author Share Posted November 9, 2019 Many thanks to you, Dave. Yes, I try also to load a default plane before selecting the Airbus Professional, but the result is the same. If I load the Airbus first, I never get to the scenery loading progress bar screen - the sim crashes after a few seconds of black screen. If I load a default aircraft, everything is fine, then, when I go to "change vehicle", select the Airbus, the screen goeas black for a few seconds and then CTD. The Event Viewer error log is as follows: Log Name: Application Source: Application Error Date: 09/11/2019 08:11:27 Event ID: 1000 Task Category: (100) Level: Error Keywords: Classic User: N/A Computer: LAPTOP-SAOMJFOR Description: Faulting application name: Prepar3D.exe, version: 4.5.13.32097, time stamp: 0x5d8abf93 Faulting module name: KERNELBASE.dll, version: 10.0.18362.418, time stamp: 0xfba22159 Exception code: 0xc0020001 Fault offset: 0x000000000003a839 Faulting process ID: 0x1a70 Faulting application start time: 0x01d596cc88974003 Faulting application path: C:\FltSim\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\Prepar3D.exe Faulting module path: C:\WINDOWS\System32\KERNELBASE.dll Report ID: 9a89e69e-5a4d-4c8b-a045-78f881d5228a Faulting package full name: Faulting package-relative application ID: Event Xml: <Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event"> <System> <Provider Name="Application Error" /> <EventID Qualifiers="0">1000</EventID> <Level>2</Level> <Task>100</Task> <Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords> <TimeCreated SystemTime="2019-11-09T07:11:27.553122200Z" /> <EventRecordID>3115</EventRecordID> <Channel>Application</Channel> <Computer>LAPTOP-SAOMJFOR</Computer> <Security /> </System> <EventData> <Data>Prepar3D.exe</Data> <Data>4.5.13.32097</Data> <Data>5d8abf93</Data> <Data>KERNELBASE.dll</Data> <Data>10.0.18362.418</Data> <Data>fba22159</Data> <Data>c0020001</Data> <Data>000000000003a839</Data> <Data>1a70</Data> <Data>01d596cc88974003</Data> <Data>C:\FltSim\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\Prepar3D.exe</Data> <Data>C:\WINDOWS\System32\KERNELBASE.dll</Data> <Data>9a89e69e-5a4d-4c8b-a045-78f881d5228a</Data> <Data> </Data> <Data> </Data> </EventData> </Event> What baffles me, is that I have never had problems with the Airbus before, I was able to load it directly from the welcome screen, and then from one day to the next the behaviour changed. On retrospective, I realised that the last thing I had done before switching off P3D on the last successful session was installing and activating a scenery, so - even if I do not understand how a scenery could cause this CTD - I deactivated it, but without effect, still CTD. All other airplans add-ons, including pretty complex ones and even Aerosoft's own CRJ 700/900 work flawlessly as before. Any help will be very much appreciated, as at this stage I wonder whether even a P3D client reinstall would be helpful. alfatango Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfatango 1 Posted November 9, 2019 Author Share Posted November 9, 2019 NOW I am totally confused, as it seems that the behaviour is not consistent. Out of maybe 15 attempts, I had: 2 successful selection of the Airbus by loading an add-on plane first and then selecting Vehicle -> Airbus Professional (once the 320, once the 319) 1 successful selection of the Airbus (320) directly from the welcome screen, no successful attempt when loading first a default plane and then selecting the Airbus (but this might be just a statistic) 10+ CTDs, even when repeating the same procedure that was successful in the previous attempt. FWIW, and in case it gives a hint to the programmers, on at least one of the successful attempts (actually, the only case when I looked at it), while running the checklist I noticed that the elevator would not move on the MFD display/FTL CTL page but did move in the exterior view and did normally pitch the plane during flight. Thick mystery.... I confirm that at least 7 or 8 other add on planes work as ususal. alfatango Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerosoft Aerosoft Team [Inactive Account] 51558 Posted November 9, 2019 Aerosoft Share Posted November 9, 2019 The fact other aircraft work does not mean a lot. We use the very latest compilers and options and almost no add-on does that. Something on your system changed (duh)...and there is unfortunately very little we can do to assist you. If code works on all systems except some it means those systems have something that is not as we expect it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfatango 1 Posted November 10, 2019 Author Share Posted November 10, 2019 Thank you Mathijs for your support. I am now able to consistently reproduce the issue: The Aerosoft Airbus Professional, and only this add-on, crashes on selection, if and only if I change the simulator time of the day in the welcome screen. Leaving the time of day unchanged (=system time) when selecting the Airbus and then changing it after loading the plane works fine. This is the workaround I am using now. In case the developers/programmers are interested in looking into this, the extended appcrashview report includes: Sig[0].Name=Application Name Sig[0].Value=Prepar3D.exe Sig[1].Name=Application Version Sig[1].Value=4.5.13.32097 Sig[2].Name=Application Timestamp Sig[2].Value=5d8abf93 Sig[3].Name=Fault Module Name Sig[3].Value=KERNELBASE.dll Sig[4].Name=Fault Module Version Sig[4].Value=10.0.18362.418 Sig[5].Name=Fault Module Timestamp Sig[5].Value=fba22159 Sig[6].Name=Exception Code Sig[6].Value=c0020001 (My note: this is labelled as "the string binding is invalid") Sig[7].Name=Exception Offset Sig[7].Value=000000000003a839 DynamicSig[1].Name=OS Version DynamicSig[1].Value=10.0.18362.2.0.0.768.101 alfatango Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerosoft Aerosoft Team [Inactive Account] 51558 Posted November 10, 2019 Aerosoft Share Posted November 10, 2019 That is a 'known' issue. Although we never have seen in in our test on the A320 series, I got one PMDG aircraft that does it consistently on my laptop and we have seen issues like this every since P3d V4.0 was released. We have no explanation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdenbrock 0 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 I have to say I fly PMDG and Quality Wings. I do not have an issue wit CTD when fly them . I recently bought Aerosoft Professional 320/321. It is only with Aerosoft AB320/321 professional I am having CTD issues Obviously it is a bit ridiculous for us to change our configs on one AC when everything works just fine with the other companies . Aerosoft needs to figure this out and stop recommending quirks to make their AC Fly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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