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radeon29

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I had a problem after the faf point in final app mode(in other modes too), when approaching the height of the decision, I move the rudders to TOGA(AP ON, AT ON), but the aircraft continues to decline+accelerate and the phase of the go around plan is not activated

and I can’t manually select direct to these points to go around plan...

 

If you repeat these actions on fslabs, then when you activate the toga, the aircraft starts to climb and accelerate

I do a re-selection of nav(trk/hgd)and the aircraft follows a go around plan...

 

something broke ?  

 

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I took screenshots, and noticed a difference in flight logic:

FSlabs FINAL APP

V/DEV magenta, height 2300 not manage, RNV APP,  correct logic!

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Aerosoft FINAL APP

V/DEV not magenta, height 2300 manage, not RNV APP, not correct logic!

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FSlabs FINAL APP go TOGA,  correct logic!

 

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Aerosoft FINAL APP go TOGA, not correct logic!

 

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 what are you doing?! is it broken...

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Unfortunately, a clean install update did not fix this ...
I tried to find similar cases on the network but did not find them, something broke the autopilot logic;(

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  • Deputy Sheriffs

Let me comment two items:

V/DEV magenta or green and RNAV APP or RNAV12 at the ND is just a difference of the EIS2 version. FSLabs model a older version.

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18 minutes ago, masterhawk said:

RNAV APP or RNAV12

ok, maybe i agree with that

18 minutes ago, masterhawk said:

V/DEV magenta or green

hmm, I hear about this for the first time, I have never seen a green deviation...

 

in any case, the go around phase, does not work correctly, there is no ga track and srs...

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21 hours ago, radeon29 said:

ok, maybe i agree with that

hmm, I hear about this for the first time, I have never seen a green deviation...

 

in any case, the go around phase, does not work correctly, there is no ga track and srs...

I will check next week with a test flight. Last time I did a GA all was working fine.

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1 hour ago, masterhawk said:

I will check next week with a test flight. Last time I did a GA all was working fine.

I think you will have everything in order, probably only I have some kind of unique problem, at the moment no one has encountered a similar problem...

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23 hours ago, radeon29 said:

ok, maybe i agree with that

hmm, I hear about this for the first time, I have never seen a green deviation...

Here you go:

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@radeon29 just in case for your next try of a GA.

Our Bus will display SRS NAV. 

SRS GA TRK is only displayed in certain conditions.

 

That’s also a difference between more modern systems and the older FSL model.

 

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28 minutes ago, masterhawk said:

SRS GA TRK is only displayed in certain conditions

specify in what conditions? I did not see this in your message.
 as you can see in my screenshot above, everything is selected correctly.

 

p/s I’m studying aviation is not the first day, I have the necessary documents, FCOM:

 

ENGAGEMENT CONDITIONS
The SRS mode engages automatically when the thrust levers are set to the TOGA or FLX/MCT detent,
providing:
- V2 has been inserted in the MCDU PERF TAKEOFF page
- The slats are extended
- The aircraft has been on ground for at least 30 s.

 

DISENGAGEMENT CONDITIONS
The SRS mode disengages:
- Automatically, at the acceleration altitude (ACC ALT), or if ALT* or ALT CST* mode engages
(above 400 ft RA)
- If the flight crew engages another vertical mode
- If the flight crew selects a speed while in SRS mode: SRS reverts to OP CLB mode, and a
triple-click aural warning is heard.

 

All that is highlighted, I performed in my flight, but nevertheless, the SRS mode did not work properly...

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And add, as you said above:

Go Around (GA)
FLIGHT CREW OPERATING MANUAL
GENERAL
Applicable to: ALL
When the flight crew performs a go-around, the Speed Reference System (SRS) vertical guidance
mode automatically engages.

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  • Deputy Sheriffs

Hi, no problem. I got SRS NAV.

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28 minutes ago, masterhawk said:

Hi, no problem. I got SRS NAV.

hello, I'm glad to see you :)

you didn’t do the main thing, you didn’t activate  the APPR mode.

p/s as well as I noticed a small error:  there are no minima  of 750ft for RNP Y RWY 05 LPMA for cat C aircraft, , In addition, the FPA is not authorized for this type approach;)

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1 hour ago, radeon29 said:

hello, I'm glad to see you :)

you didn’t do the main thing, you didn’t activate  the APPR mode.

p/s as well as I noticed a small error:  there are no minima  of 750ft for RNP Y RWY 05 LPMA for cat C aircraft, , In addition, the FPA is not authorized for this type approach;)

I just set anything, to check if SRS is working. Will do later another with APPR.

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5 minutes ago, masterhawk said:

I just set anything, to check if SRS is working

Ok!

5 minutes ago, masterhawk said:

Will do later another with APPR.

I will wait, if it’s not difficult for you, save to the point of IF, then I will try to download it and check it(aircraft a320 plz).

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1 hour ago, masterhawk said:

Hi, also with APPR no problem.

Thx, I am doing a complete reinstallation of the simulator and will check it later...

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14 hours ago, radeon29 said:

and will check it later...

I did a complete reinstall SIM(ORBX,vAddon Scenery, FSUIPC, have not even been installed yet), with cleaning all the folders in my documents and so on, but that didn't help...

And when I switch the levers to GA detent, the co-pilot says leaving for the go around, nevertheless the SRS mode is not activated...

I do not know what else you can try to do;(

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  • Deputy Sheriffs

According to your Fpln page, the GA mode wasn't activated. I have no idea what is happening.
When I test it, I just put the thrustlevers from CL to TOGA. Same as you.
Can you enable logging and upoad the log-files, please?

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35 minutes ago, masterhawk said:

According to your Fpln page, the GA mode wasn't activated

yes, SRS mode not activating, because of this , the  plan go around phase is not activated.

35 minutes ago, masterhawk said:

When I test it, I just put the thrustlevers from CL to TOGA

yes, this is the only condition for activating the SRS mode if we are in the air in the landing configuration, why it does not happen to me, it is not clear that something is broken...

35 minutes ago, masterhawk said:

log-files, please?

 

log.rar

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  • 6 months later...
On 3/6/2020 at 9:04 AM, jackjoe said:

do you still have this issue?

Yes;(

On 3/6/2020 at 9:04 AM, jackjoe said:

its caused probably by the CH Throttle Quadrant.

 

I use only the keyboard, no throttle quadrant, besides, the main toga is activated for me without any problems.

 

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